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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: chodamunky]
    #2610507 - 04/28/04 04:54 AM (20 years, 26 days ago)

This has more relevance than getting off scientists.

Learning such aspects of physics can affect the way we view the universe, potentially travel through it some century, experience life and death and so on.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2616149 - 04/29/04 12:32 PM (20 years, 24 days ago)

NASA's Gravity Probe B mission, also known as GP-B, will use four ultra-precise gyroscopes to test Einstein's theory that space and time are distorted by the presence of massive objects.

ahhh gyroscopes!  this makes much more sense now why they are using these super round spheres :smile:

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2619019 - 04/29/04 10:09 PM (20 years, 24 days ago)

How long is this supposed to take before they get results? A year? A couple years? I'm curious as to when I can look for results...


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2633448 - 05/03/04 06:00 PM (20 years, 20 days ago)

If any of you follow theoretical physics, you'd think that this experiment was the bee's knees.

Einstein shattered the scientific community when he proved Newton's theory of gravity was incorrect. It allowed for a new era of scientific advances and research. If this experiment proved Einstein wrong, it would launch a whole new genre of scientific studies around the world to test new theories. Things previously thought impossible might now be possible.

On the other hand, if he is proved to be correct, the exploration of space can become much more precise - millions of dollars could be saved, and new technologies of space exploration could be created.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: trippysmurf]
    #2633854 - 05/03/04 07:19 PM (20 years, 20 days ago)

Alot of the aspects of the special theory of relativity and the general theory of relativity have already been proven. This sattellite is just going to prove the theory of frame dragging. One of the biggest parts of einstiens controbution to science, the idea that massive bodys warp space, was proven like 90 years ago. So in other words Einstien has already been proven right.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: KrazieH8er]
    #2635282 - 05/04/04 12:20 AM (20 years, 20 days ago)

proven how?

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: KrazieH8er]
    #2636055 - 05/04/04 07:05 AM (20 years, 20 days ago)

> So in other words Einstien has already been proven right.

You forgot the word not. You said it yourself, "Alot (sic) of the aspects of the special theory of relativity and the general theory of relativity have already been proven." A lot is not all, therefore; Einstein's theories have not all been proven.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2640149 - 05/05/04 02:40 AM (20 years, 19 days ago)

http://johntitor.com one prediction after another coming true mad cow 911 and developments in the quantum feild. prepair for the cival war people

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2640866 - 05/05/04 08:56 AM (20 years, 18 days ago)

Heh. I just read like, 2 pages of that and found 4 things he said would happen that havent.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2647697 - 05/06/04 08:44 PM (20 years, 17 days ago)

One of the biggest parts of relativity that has been proven is the fact that massive bodies bend space. This was proven in like 1917 when a scientist showed how light was bent around a star.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2648773 - 05/07/04 12:01 AM (20 years, 17 days ago)

just because something hasnt come true or you dont know about it doesnt make it wrong. he explains he is on a seprate world line and it is almost impossible to travel to a world line that has the exact same events happen. plus the whole bullshit thing, man just say you disagree no need to get negative

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: AhronZombi]
    #2650894 - 05/07/04 05:00 PM (20 years, 16 days ago)

I'd say I'm sorry, but its completely irrational to believe some nonsense like that.

Do you feel better if I say nonsense? Its the same thing, but if it makes you feel better.

its still N O N S E N S E

Time travel indeed....


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2652600 - 05/08/04 03:06 AM (20 years, 16 days ago)

well, you brain probabley can even handle the compleitys of relativity and string theory most cant, so of course youll be close minded and say its insain. back in cave man days they would say the same about radio waves tv's and such. but remember history is full of amazing breakthroughs. lets not be so negative towards other board members ok

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2659226 - 05/10/04 10:44 AM (20 years, 13 days ago)

> I'd say I'm sorry, but its completely irrational to believe some nonsense like that.

I disagree. I do think that the John Titor/Time Travel stuff is a hoax, but I do not know for sure. Assuming it was a hoax, it was done very well. All aspects were well thought out and presented in such a way that they could never been disproven... the whole no two timelines are alike business, for example.

How, exactly, is it any more rational to believe that time travel doesn't exist than to believe that it does? We simply do not understand the workings of reality well enough to prove this one way or another. I would think that the only irrational position is the one that claims, for certain, that time travel is or is not possible.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2662260 - 05/11/04 08:15 AM (20 years, 12 days ago)

Its not so much that I discount the possibility of time travel. I personally dont believe its possible, but the evidence I've seen tends to show that it MAY be possible.

I was more incredulous to the fact that someone could believe a time traveler from the future would have nothing better to do than sit on IRC for a few weeks and give out cryptic "prophecies". Especially when you take into account that many of the MAJOR events that were mentioned, things that will kill massive amounts of people, are just around the corner. If I could time travel today, I wouldnt go back to September 10th, 2001 and tell some people on Shroomery.org "Be careful, a terrorist attack will happen soon." I'd bring some proof, like a video or newspaper and show it to EVERYONE.

And plus, the guy is cryptic as hell and doesnt make any sense. He says he's on some horribly important government mission to pick up an old computer, but he has 4 months to hang around and shoot the shit on IRC. He says time travel is not secret and is almost commonplace, but we've never heard of anyone before or since. And they cant be incognito, because he obviously didnt take pains to hide his identity.



Anyway, thats my take on it.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5064183 - 12/14/05 07:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Any news on this?  How are the satellites doing?

I bet a microparticle hit their $700 mill spheres at like 10,000 MPH.  :lol:


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #5064237 - 12/14/05 07:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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> I'd say I'm sorry, but its completely irrational to believe some nonsense like that.

I disagree. I do think that the John Titor/Time Travel stuff is a hoax, but I do not know for sure. Assuming it was a hoax, it was done very well. All aspects were well thought out and presented in such a way that they could never been disproven... the whole no two timelines are alike business, for example.

How, exactly, is it any more rational to believe that time travel doesn't exist than to believe that it does? We simply do not understand the workings of reality well enough to prove this one way or another. I would think that the only irrational position is the one that claims, for certain, that time travel is or is not possible.



Because for it to exist, there would have to be some sort of memory associated with the universe. I think quantum would dispell that, as theres no way to know the exact location of every particle, so going back in time, whose to say where what was, and from whose perspective.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5066864 - 12/15/05 11:43 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Time travel indeed....

Actually, the available evidence suggests that the interactions occurring among subatomic particles includes them making very brief excursions (on the order of 10^-44 s) into the past, then catching up again. Positrons routinely do this in even the most elementary Feynman Diagrams.

As far as we can tell, they really do this. It's similar to how random chance can briefly assemble matter into a state in which entropy very briefly locally decreases. Of course, overall mater always moves forward in time and entropy always increases.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: chodamunky]
    #5066927 - 12/15/05 11:55 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yea science is cool and all, but who the fuck cares anyway? America's tax dollars

Wow, what an incredibly short sighted attitude.

Were it not for basic science, you wouldn't have a computer to chat on, the lasers or transistors in your CD player and TV wouldn't exist, the mathematics and psychoacoustics of your MP3 player wouldn't work, the chemotherapy and radiation oncology that may some day cure your cancer would be replaced with blood letting and leaches, and on and on...


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #5068298 - 12/15/05 06:00 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Madtowntripper said:
Do you understand all that stuff about twisting-warping space-time being erased bit by bit by the constant motion of the earth around then sun?




Sounds something like shrooming :smile:
Twisting warping timechanging nondefinable :crazy2:

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