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Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity
    #2577370 - 04/19/04 12:19 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/04/19/einstein.satellite.reut/index.html

Does this article blow anyone elses mind? Maybe I'm just really high, but some of this stuff is crazy.

In essence, their launching a satellite with these 4 little metal spheres, which NASA claims are "the roundest objects ever made." That concept there is enough to drive me crazy...how can an object be rounder than round?

These balls are there to find out if a little bit of space-time is lost every time the earth rotates the sun, because the sun is ripping and twisting and swirling space-time. Seriously, it sounds like some science fiction shit to me, but NASA's doing it, so it must be true...


http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/04/19/einstein.satellite.reut/index.html


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2579086 - 04/19/04 08:06 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

Im starting to think NASA has got whatever bush has got...

and that aint good


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Legoulash]
    #2580578 - 04/20/04 01:09 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Rah, what are you talking about?  Are you against scientific exploration or something?  :confused:


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2581013 - 04/20/04 02:18 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Round describes a shape. Round is an approximation to either a circle or sphere. A true circle or sphere are perfect forms, meaning they don't have any deviation. An orange is round, but is for from being as round as round can get. A ball bearing is closer, but still not a perfect sphere.

What NASA was saying is that the spheres they manufactured for the project are the closest to being perfectly spherical as has ever been accomplished in the past.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2581748 - 04/20/04 10:33 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Dont get me wrong, I wasnt knocking the experiment at all. I was just saying that some of the concepts are hard to twist your mind around. Did you folks read the article? Do you understand all that stuff about twisting-warping space-time being erased bit by bit by the constant motion of the earth around then sun?

Or something...


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2581865 - 04/20/04 11:19 AM (13 years, 13 days ago)

I find it thrilling  :thumbup:


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: DieCommie]
    #2582070 - 04/20/04 12:25 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

Now I hear today the launch was delayed. hopefully for weather, and they didnt wuss out...


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2582734 - 04/20/04 02:29 PM (13 years, 13 days ago)

The satalite just seperated from the second stage a few moments ago and everything looks good at this point.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2588641 - 04/21/04 11:00 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

Are you in the command centre?  :tongue:


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: zeta]
    #2589939 - 04/22/04 07:17 AM (13 years, 11 days ago)

> Are you in the command centre?

Nope, but I watched the launch on NASA tv as it was happening.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2591816 - 04/22/04 06:25 PM (13 years, 11 days ago)

I'm Jealous. I want Nasa TV, dammit.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2594118 - 04/23/04 10:35 AM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I wonder if these spheres were designed by the beureau of standards. It will be interesting to see how this experiment turns out.

I wish i had NASA TV :frown:  :laugh:


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Zero7a1]
    #2598557 - 04/24/04 06:38 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

NASA tv is not all it is cut out to be


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2605126 - 04/26/04 05:00 PM (13 years, 7 days ago)

... the $700 million price tag adds glamour....

  :shocked: and a sense of frustration! yea science is cool and all, but who the fuck cares anyway? America's tax dollars are going to this ridiculously expensive experiemnt so a bunch of scientists around the world can get off on how Einstein was a genius. Sure these concepts blow the mind, I just don't know if it's worth the $700 million price tag at this point in time in our world considering the problems America is in right now...

Also, I didn't catch in the article the [i/reason for the spheres to be perfectly round, why they need to be cooled to near absolute zero, and why they are in a sound proof container. How is this experiment gonna work? Hmmm, I think we need a more scientific publication to read about this stuff than CNN.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: chodamunky]
    #2605728 - 04/27/04 10:42 AM (13 years, 6 days ago)

> ... the $700 million price tag adds glamour....

They have been working on it since the mid-60's... so that is $700 million over some 40-odd years.

> so a bunch of scientists around the world can get off on how Einstein was a genius.

Uh, ok.... you sure hit the nail on the head there.  :rolleyes:

> I just don't know if it's worth the $700 million price tag at this point in time in our world considering the problems America is in right now...

So it would be better to waste $700 million on another stealth bomber?  Perhaps another pay raise for congress?

> the reason for the spheres to be perfectly round,

To reduce error in the measurements.  They are measuring very tiny changes.

> why they need to be cooled to near absolute zero

To reduce error in the measurements.  By keeping the spheres at a constant (and very cold) temperature, there is no change in the radius of the spheres from thermal expansion, etc.

> and why they are in a sound proof container

Vibrations would cause errors in the measurements.

The spheres are within 40 angstroms of a perfect sphere.  If the spheres were the size of the earth, the distance between the highest mountain and the lowest valley would be around eight feet.

> Hmmm, I think we need a more scientific publication to read about this stuff than CNN.

try space.com


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Seuss]
    #2606319 - 04/27/04 02:29 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

They have been working on it since the mid-60's... so that is $700 million over some 40-odd years.

heh, that's still a shit load of money, 40 years old or not.

> so a bunch of scientists around the world can get off on how Einstein was a genius.

Uh, ok.... you sure hit the nail on the head there.


lol, yea. I don't see why anybody else would care for this for more than 10 mins.

So it would be better to waste $700 million on another stealth bomber? Perhaps another pay raise for congress?

hell no, America has many other problems than this war, which I do not support. There is countless way to spend millions of dollars to improve the country

the reason for the spheres to be perfectly round, To reduce error in the measurements. They are measuring very tiny changes

Yea that's what I wanna know, how are they measuring these very tine changes with these spheres? That's what I didn't get from the article.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: chodamunky]
    #2606427 - 04/27/04 02:56 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

"Yea that's what I wanna know, how are they measuring these very tine changes with these spheres? That's what I didn't get from the article."

It's so complicated if they told you your head would explode.  :nut:

A lot of the money that goes into technology and space research gets reinvested into the economy through innovations they accidentally stumble across that get implemented into our daily lives.


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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: chodamunky]
    #2606885 - 04/27/04 04:29 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)



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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2608078 - 04/27/04 08:57 PM (13 years, 6 days ago)

wouldnt it be fun if they proved einstein wrong?

that'd really throw a wrench in things.

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Re: Satellite Launch to Test Theory of Relativity [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2610412 - 04/28/04 04:58 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

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Madtowntripper said:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/04/19/einstein.satellite.reut/index.html

Does this article blow anyone elses mind? Maybe I'm just really high, but some of this stuff is crazy.

In essence, their launching a satellite with these 4 little metal spheres, which NASA claims are "the roundest objects ever made." That concept there is enough to drive me crazy...how can an object be rounder than round?

These balls are there to find out if a little bit of space-time is lost every time the earth rotates the sun, because the sun is ripping and twisting and swirling space-time. Seriously, it sounds like some science fiction shit to me, but NASA's doing it, so it must be true...


http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/04/19/einstein.satellite.reut/index.html


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