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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #25823816 - 02/19/19 11:56 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Posted earlier here:



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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25824054 - 02/20/19 06:35 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Good thing you were just a stock boy in the airforce.

I like global trade and that is what makes the US Military so motivated.  Commies are "happy" with general issue material.  That food gets boring.

Being to centralized is a common enemy around the world.  These commies don't want diversity.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25824211 - 02/20/19 09:14 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Thats weird because I thought (((cultural marxism))) is supposed to destroy western civilization from the inside out by making us like gay people too much or something


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: The Ecstatic] * 3
    #25824268 - 02/20/19 10:05 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

No, that's shrooms.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #25824330 - 02/20/19 10:36 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I've had life experience that doesn't make me that 'free'.  I've learned a lot of suffering. So I respect what causes suffering.

Still learning what causes suffering.

There is no political theory that works to prevent all suffering.  Buddhist became too peaceful and they lost Tibet (which they never really had).

Get too violent and it can be lost as well.

So going with the flow should be a lesson to all.  It seems somewhere we get tied up with our paranoia and don't know how to let go.  Having did something we'll regret.  That's an easy lesson to learn in American society.  I don't know how so many get away with it, but they don't seem to know suffering.

So there is a protection in not feeling guilty.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25824960 - 02/20/19 03:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

People starve to death when basic goods are nationalized.  Look st Russia during the fall of the Union.  The mafia couldn't take care of people.

The organized criminals never can when they are stressed.  That is why the US has so many civil agencies.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25825023 - 02/20/19 03:25 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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People starve to death when basic goods are nationalized.  Look st Russia during the fall of the Union.



Actually, people starved when goods were privatized (not nationalized) during the fall of the Soviet Union.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25827835 - 02/21/19 03:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

another good episode on Venezuela. Makes the connection with US imperial control of Haiti and Clinton's involvement.

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/20/regime-change-we-can-believe-in-the-u-s-agenda-in-venezuela-haiti-and-egypt/


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25828801 - 02/21/19 10:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Looks like the bribes are starting to pay off. This Saturday?

https://news.yahoo.com/maduro-apos-soldiers-begun-disobeying-003938041.html
Venezuelan troops have begun disobeying orders from Nicolas Maduro’s top officers and are unlikely to heed calls to crack down on a humanitarian-aid caravan scheduled to enter the country this weekend, U.S. Senator Marco Rubio said.

“Saturday’s a day when we’re going to find a lot about the Maduro regime,” Rubio, who’s been helping set U.S. policy toward Venezuela, said in a telephone interview on Wednesday. “I have reason to believe that rank-and-file military are not going to violently suppress aid workers.”

Juan Guaido, the National Assembly leader battling Maduro as legitimate head of the country, has been pushing aggressively for soldiers and generals alike to recognize him as president, something the U.S. and more than 30 other countries have done. While only one general and two colonels -- among thousands of top officers -- have broken ranks in the past weeks, Rubio says Maduro’s grip is loosening


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #25829019 - 02/22/19 12:48 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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While only one general and two colonels -- among thousands of top officers -- have broken ranks in the past weeks, Rubio says Maduro’s grip is loosening



:hahthatsrich:


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25829340 - 02/22/19 08:27 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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People starve to death when basic goods are nationalized.  Look st Russia during the fall of the Union.



Actually, people starved when goods were privatized (not nationalized) during the fall of the Soviet Union.





It's because THEY WERE NATIONALIZED previously.  There was no transition other than the KGB mafia.  It's hard for creatures to transition from one system to the next.  It's a big problem for zoo's as well.

That's why people become so called experts in a field.  It's not simple to just make career changes.  There is no jack of all trades like a lot of men think they are.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25829394 - 02/22/19 09:04 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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People starve to death when basic goods are nationalized. 




Do you mean like the Great Leap Forward?



I love how these programs are named: "The peoples utopian paradise of blissful happiness" It creates such a peaceful image, then you actually see what's happening..



and you're like...holy fuck...

Communism, coming to a store near you.

I wonder what they'll call Americas "Great Leap Forward"

https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2019/02/09/the_green_new_deal_is_communist_manifesto_21st_century_103617.html


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: vault123] * 1
    #25829408 - 02/22/19 09:11 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Too much national change is not good.  I was reading about starvation/famines and war time.  Our nation is probably closer to that than you realize.

It's a huge issue.  I don't have money for all that dog food and MRE's but people would kill me for that.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25829528 - 02/22/19 10:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Looks like engagements are starting to occur....won't be long now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6732927/Guaidos-trucks-RAM-roadblocks-Venezuelan-border.html

Troops arrived at a checkpoint set up by an indigenous community in Kumarakapai, on Venezuela's southern border with Brazil early this morning.

But when civilians tried to block a convoy of tanks, soldiers opened fire shooting 12 and killing a woman named as  Zorayda Rodriguez, 42. Gran Sabana Mayor Emilio Gonzalez said soldiers fired rubber bullets and tear gas and the injured people were taken for medical treatment.

The villagers are believed to have been trying to keep open a section of the border so that aid could be moved into the area from Brazil.

A day earlier, President Nicolas Maduro ordered the border closed as the opposition, under his rival Juan Guaido, made plans to bring in humanitarian aid from the neighbouring country and two other nations on Saturday.

It comes after dramatic footage emerge of a clash between President Nicolas Maduro's troops and supporters of Guaido. The clip shows trucks trying to ram through a checkpoint in Mariara, northern Venezuela, as security forces loyal to Maduro stand in its path.

One person has been killed and 12 are injured after Venezuelan troops opened fire on civilians trying to keep a border checkpoint open for aid deliveries.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #25829941 - 02/22/19 02:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

wow this is quite a statement: Nationalisation leads to starvation ...? What does privatisation lead to? - since we are making vague blanket statements.

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Have you got a source to back up the stated story behind this image?


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote]
    #25831908 - 02/23/19 12:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Maduro is a sick fuck keeping aid out of his country. What the fuck is his problem sitting in his palace saying there is nobody starving? Now they aren’t allowing Venezuelans to leave the country.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
    #25831952 - 02/23/19 12:44 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

There was a music festival in Colombia of 300,000 people (or so) trying to raise support for the conflict.

ELN though is causing issues.  I'm not sure where all they get their directions, support and weapons.  Buying cocaine and marijuana can be supporting these terrorist groups that don't like peace.

They have done bad things and aren't right with any sort of creator.  That's a hard thing for all troops to live with.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
    #25832147 - 02/23/19 01:51 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Maduro is a sick fuck keeping aid out of his country. What the fuck is his problem sitting in his palace saying there is nobody starving? Now they aren’t allowing Venezuelans to leave the country.




He's not keeping aid out of his country. He's keeping aid from the US out of his country, because the US has a documented history of smuggling weapons in, disguised as aid.

Are you intentionally saying ignorant things, or are you just ignorant?


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    #25832199 - 02/23/19 02:16 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Yes. The RPGs are hidden in the bananas🤦‍♂️


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods] * 3
    #25832236 - 02/23/19 02:34 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I know what our government would say if a consortium of central and south american countries wanted to truck in large shipments across the border without inspection...

to be clear, I was making threads about this stuff last year and I'm no Maduro cheerleader


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