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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25792147 - 02/05/19 06:40 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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How much of that was propaganda influenced?  I'd say about all of it.

This is why there is extra border security now.



You're saying Venezuelans are against international meddling and sanctions because of propaganda?





No but likely so.  I didn't really think about that.  America is less against it due to being a nation of immigrants.  Venezuela is a lot of native people, that lost their roots.


The spirits told me once when I was 17 and almost 18, to be true to your roots.  Now what that means could mean different things.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy] * 3
    #25792285 - 02/05/19 09:25 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Decent Democracy Now episode this morning discussing the fate of Venezuela.

Interestingly, they briefly discusses the amount of Chinese debt tied up there. It's a decent sum, seems everybody wants some of that hot Venezuelan oil. There was a brief talk about humanitarian concerns and a brief bit on the state of democracy there. However, the conversation mostly centered around Elliot Abrams, who of course was a player under Reagan in Nicaragua and Guatemala. Then later with Bush when the U.S. didn't like the election results in Gaza. Perhaps we should open the door for Kissinger while we are at it. We can make it a little war crimes and imperialism party.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: christopera] * 2
    #25792295 - 02/05/19 09:36 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)



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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25792308 - 02/05/19 09:41 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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No one here can challenge koods as the Political Forum's King of Make Believe.  That title only grows stronger as his influence here grows weaker.




Its really baffling but youre right, this title is for koods and koods alone. He doesn't even respond to valid points and ignores established fact.

So...@koods... you accept that the US actions aren't altruistic. What is their ulterior motive in your opinion?


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25792618 - 02/05/19 12:20 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Some may be young, or not remember....does Guillermo Endara , ring a bell? It was the President the USA recognized before taking over Panama.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #25792624 - 02/05/19 12:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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President of Bolivia, Morales, being a boss and calling out Americans BS infront of Trump




That was fucking great! lol

I loved watching Trump just casually move on, as if to say 'I don't really give a shit what you poor, brown South Americans think about anything'.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
    #25792627 - 02/05/19 12:25 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

koods did you support the war in Iraq?


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
    #25792634 - 02/05/19 12:27 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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President of Bolivia, Morales, being a boss and calling out Americans BS infront of Trump




That was fucking great! lol

I loved watching Trump just casually move on, as if to say 'I don't really give a shit what you poor, brown South Americans think about anything'.




I'm not sure if Trump even had his earpiece in or not, its hard to tell when he often looks clueless


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote]
    #25792665 - 02/05/19 12:42 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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koods did you support the war in Iraq?



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President of Bolivia, Morales, being a boss and calling out Americans BS infront of Trump




That was fucking great! lol

I loved watching Trump just casually move on, as if to say 'I don't really give a shit what you poor, brown South Americans think about anything'.




I'm not sure if Trump even had his earpiece in or not, its hard to tell when he often looks clueless




Lol! The way he moved on so casually, it almost seems exactly like that.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #25792697 - 02/05/19 12:58 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

i mean how exactly could Trump really react to that? without descending into a tantrum or walking out.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #25792713 - 02/05/19 01:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Trump wasn’t listening because he isn’t intelligent enough to understand what was being said.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: christopera]
    #25792795 - 02/05/19 01:47 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

I predicted or made happen the South China sea incursion talkijng about JFK.

It reminds people of B52 strikes.

B52 is mop up after stealth.  Stealth jams like crazy!

I feel jammed bad


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods] * 2
    #25794278 - 02/06/19 07:12 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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How do you rate the intercept as a source, koods? I recommend the podcast, some great reporting on Venezuela.



It’s that Glenn Greenwald? He’s an activist no longer a journalist.



The word you're looking for is "investigative journalist".  He doesn't just report what he's told, like most journalists do, he investigates his facts instead.  If you want to call investigative journalism 'activism', then so be it.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25794352 - 02/06/19 08:22 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

What's the CIA's list down there?

Nobody knows?  Someone knows.

Some people just like to play games.  It gets old.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Morel Guy]
    #25794392 - 02/06/19 08:48 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

koods, do you intentionally avoid answering any questions?


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote]
    #25794395 - 02/06/19 08:50 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

The church could legalize drugs.  America resists that a lot, a ton.

Nobody wants to see Jesus.  That sucks!!!

It's a lot of fun.  Do you want to see Jesus sounds like a threat?

Lol it's so funny


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote]
    #25794495 - 02/06/19 10:04 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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koods, do you intentionally avoid answering any questions?



I dunno


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Tipote] * 1
    #25794713 - 02/06/19 11:51 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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koods, do you intentionally avoid answering any questions?




Koods is working back from 'I'm right'. Anything inconvenient is conveniently ignored lol


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
    #25794740 - 02/06/19 12:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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"We stand with the Venezuelan people in their noble quest for freedom — and we condemn the brutality of the Maduro regime, whose socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject poverty and despair," Trump said.




Why are we picking winners, we should be saying "go vote and we approve of whomever you chose."

If we care so much about the Venezuelan people why was socialism even mentioned? All he had to do was commit a few hundred million in aid and be done with it.


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    #25794752 - 02/06/19 12:08 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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"We stand with the Venezuelan people in their noble quest for freedom — and we condemn the brutality of the Maduro regime, whose socialist policies have turned that nation from being the wealthiest in South America into a state of abject poverty and despair," Trump said.




Why are we picking winners, we should be saying "go vote and we approve of whomever you chose."

If we care so much about the Venezuelan people why was socialism even mentioned? All he had to do was commit a few hundred million in aid and be done with it.




All we have to do is eliminate sanctions, and unfreeze their assets.


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