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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25487289 - 09/25/18 06:36 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hey bud, you and i obviously don't agree about numerous things on this topic. I'm done trying to make you see things the way i do. I've been there and i done it. If you don't want to take my advice that shits me but it's fine and i'll get over it.
If you're dead set about going ahead with this, please take this last piece of advice onboard: don't go through with it online. Going online was my biggest downfall because i couldn't withdraw my 'bank' when i wanted to leave before loosing any more. Make sure you can withdraw your initial deposit. Many online casinos trap you like this.
Although i think you will loose, i'm not saying you will. If you happen to be on the loosing side of things eventually, you should have the option of taking the existing money and running as you like. Don't blindly commit to some shithole online casino like Ruby fortune.

Looking forward to hearing about your experience.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Magenta]
    #25488147 - 09/25/18 01:48 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Well, sorry we can't agree :shrug: I'm kinda done explaining my side of things too lol and sorry we met on the wrong foot! I'm sure you're a cool person.

As far as the online thing, I'm in 100% agreement with you on that. My thing against that is, to me, online/electronic gambling has a much higher chance of being rigged, but your points are also definitely valid too. Online gambling is a huge no for me. Glad we could finally agree on something haha


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25497123 - 09/28/18 11:32 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

hey guys! the first trip was a success! I came out with $800!


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25497164 - 09/29/18 12:18 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25497166 - 09/29/18 12:20 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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hey guys! the first trip was a success! I came out with $800!



How much did you go in with?
And what did you play?
Tell every thing.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Geinstein]
    #25498128 - 09/29/18 01:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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hey guys! the first trip was a success! I came out with $800!



How much did you go in with?
And what did you play?
Tell every thing.





I went with the original plan. I went in with $1575, started with $25 bets and doubled up every time I lost, and I set a $500 cap. Surprisingly, I never lost more than 3 times in a row, I thought it would be more up-and-down than that, maybe I was just lucky with the guesses haha. I was tempted to make some $50 bets to go faster, but I decided to not risk it and keep it pure to the plan. I was at the table for about an hour and a half. It went pretty well.

After I cashed out, I looked in my wallet and I saw that I had an extra $80 from work, so I decided to play with it for fun. Went to a different table and put $40 in and started making random bets. I lost it, and put the next $40 in. I was gaining a bit but overall it wasn't going very well, very up-and-down. This time it was a 00 wheel, and I noticed that 0 and 00 were hitting quite frequently, so I decided to put $5 on each every time. I ended up losing most of my bets, but I hit the 0 twice. I ended up cashing out of there with $370 there, so minus the original $80 that's $290 profit.

So, now I'm halfway to breaking even. Once I get my original $1575 back, everything from there will be profit. Depending on how much I like this, how successful this is, how much time I have to spare, etc., after I match my original $1575, I'm probably gonna keep going until I lose. I'm thinking I'll probably just keep it at a $200 or $300 cap every time I go from then on until I lose the $1575, then I'll probably take whatever profits I made and call it a day with the experiment.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96] * 1
    #25498723 - 09/29/18 05:16 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Statistically, whatever your goal is you should try to achieve it in as few bets as possible in order to minimize your risk. If you're trying to double your 1500, the wisest bet is awkwardly enough to take the full amount on a 2:1 payout bet. This is easier to achieve statistically than several small bets with the same payout. The more bets you play, the more you will lose in the long run over thousands of plays.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #25498732 - 09/29/18 05:19 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Also, keep in mind that you put 1575 on the line for $290 in profit. 18% gains are nice, but not when the risk of losing your entire investment is as high as it is.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: PatrickKn]
    #25499440 - 09/29/18 10:08 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Statistically, whatever your goal is you should try to achieve it in as few bets as possible in order to minimize your risk. If you're trying to double your 1500, the wisest bet is awkwardly enough to take the full amount on a 2:1 payout bet. This is easier to achieve statistically than several small bets with the same payout. The more bets you play, the more you will lose in the long run over thousands of plays.





thats what I was trying to say earlier and everyone was trying to disagree with me. Check it:

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My point to Magenta was that Magenta is less likely to profit than me because playing too safe with such small bets like that is gonna keep you at the table for soooo long, like, literally hours. Like you said (and I totally agree), in the long run you will lose, if you're sitting there for many hours, you're bound to hit that losing streak and go bankrupt. Therefore, I just think its better to take a bigger risk by making bigger bets so I can leave the table faster. You could even throw in one more extreme which I've been experimenting with, by making $100 bets with a $500 cap. I believe this is a bit too risky because I only have 4 chances to win before bankruptcy, but all I need is to win only 5 times and then I'm out. I could get there and get what I need in like 20 minutes or less.




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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: PatrickKn]
    #25499446 - 09/29/18 10:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Also, keep in mind that you put 1575 on the line for $290 in profit. 18% gains are nice, but not when the risk of losing your entire investment is as high as it is.





lol no no, I think you read it wrong.

At the first table, I went in with $1575 (exactly enough for 6 safeties), made $25 bets initially and doubled up when I lost, and I came out with $500 profit.

Then I went to a second table and won $290 off of an initial $80.

But I get what you're saying bro.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25505102 - 10/02/18 01:44 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Went again tonight, came out with another $400. Almost breaking even! One more trip.

Oh, and definitely had some sketchy close calls, I thought I was gonna lose for sure twice lol


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25507457 - 10/02/18 08:27 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Got my $375 tonight to finally break even. Also played with some spare work money again and got an extra $200 from that.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25516077 - 10/05/18 10:41 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I lost tonight  :foreverbatman:

It was nice while it lasted lol and at least I'm not negative, so that's fine. I think I'm gonna take a week or so off though haha may not even try again, idk


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25516146 - 10/05/18 11:36 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:

Took even less time than I thought.

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Since you won't listen to reason, go try this thing out and come back after a few months and let us know how it's working?




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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25516154 - 10/05/18 11:42 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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:shrug:

Took even less time than I thought.





ya same dude, its like just when I got enough to be comfortable I lost it haha oh well


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25518946 - 10/07/18 08:00 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Loving the transparency man. Hella respect. I may not post but i'm following this adventure 100%. Quit when you're ready however, you'll have my support on that 100% too. :wink:


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Magenta]
    #25519295 - 10/07/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Loving the transparency man. Hella respect. I may not post but i'm following this adventure 100%. Quit when you're ready however, you'll have my support on that 100% too. :wink:




Thanks man! haha

Honestly, I wasn't sure about reporting back every time, and considering the previous conversations I did kinda figure it would be a bit embarrassing to admit that I lost, but this is an experiment and I don't wanna lie, I wanna share the true results. I've said that I'm aware of the risks and am willing to take the risks, so that's what I'm going to do and that's what I'm going to report.

I'm not quite ready to give up just yet though! I did some re-thinking, and I think I might take it a bit slower this time. I'm thinking instead of bringing $1575 and making $25 bets, I'll just bring $620 and make $20 bets, and cap at $100 or $200 (if I'm feeling good). I'll have one less safety, but it's less of a hit to my stockpile, and that way I can split my current original investment ($1575) into 2 piles, so I can lose again and won't lose everything. I think I was starting get high on the possibility of raking in hundreds of dollars from the casino every time I went, but I think it might be better to just go slow and steady, cash out each time with $100 and not push my luck. The other night when I went, I literally won two spins, then lost right after that, very quick, so I think it'll be better to just get my 5 wins as quick as possible and get out as quick as possible.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96] * 1
    #25543111 - 10/16/18 08:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys, haven't reported back in a bit.

So I went last week some time, I forget which day, I think it was Monday? Anyway, I lost again this time which finally put me in the negative. I only brought around $1200 and I made $20 bets that time instead, I wanted to play it a bit slower and safer, but luck wasn't on my side I guess. I felt pretty shitty that night, and the next day or so. It really did suck lol I still have $300 left cause I didn't bring the full amount, but I didn't know how I was gonna bounce back, but then I turned to my phone.

I started playing again, trying some different things out, going back to my usual outside patterns, thinking "there's gotta be a way, there's gotta be a way". I finally found another pretty good strategy that I liked. I was still pretty struck mentally and very back and forth on the whole casino idea, but I just wanted to get my money back and see how it goes from there (bad mindset, I know).

So last Friday, I finished work, and I just said fuck it and decided to go. I went home, got my $300, put another $100 of work money on top, and was ready to go. I remember the whole time driving to the casino, all I was thinking was "fuck, I don't think I have enough money, this is gonna fucking suck if I lose, blah blah". I got there, sat at one of the electronic screens (I prefer this now), put my $400 in, and used my new strategy. I was planning to cap at $500. I said fuck it and went all the way up to $1000. Easy, too. I went again tonight wanting another $600 to even out my pile, said fuck it again and now I'm sitting on $2640 (I'm up $1065)!

Oh, my new strat is to go with $1000, put $50 on "1-18" and "19-36", put $50 on the middle "13-24", and depending if I'm feeling high or low, either put $50 on "1-12" or "24-36". And I don't dance around with it either, if I'm feeling high for the night I play that, if I'm feeling low for the night, I play that, I find its better than just trying to guess like with my friend's strategy, shit stressed me out. By covering that much of the field and just repeating the same bet every spin, it puts me at a 64% of winning and 36% chance of losing. On the odd times that I do lose, I double my money on either "1-18" or "19-36" (depending on how I'm playing) to get me back to where I was before I lost, which I find is the one true flaw in the strat that I've seen. When I lose, I lose $100. When I win, I gain $50, so for every 1 loss I need to win twice just to recover. So I've find, in my experience so far, that its better to just let it go when I lose. If I lose 2 or 3 in a row, then that kinda puts me in a position, but that hasn't happened much so far. It can be fast, but its usually a slow climb, it seems a lot safer and its working so far.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96] * 2
    #25551981 - 10/20/18 08:17 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Hey bud, can't tell you when is the right time to stop investing in this as i'm not involved personally. I can see a concerning trend possibly about to begin with you. If you hadn't picked up on it, i just wanted to throw some advice our way; betting is a limited fun. If it's not limited, it's a problem.

Please just take the time to review your actions, behaviours, and mentality from an as bias point of view as possible just to make sure you're not diving head first into rabbit hole the size of a mine shaft.



Not following how you're working personally, but following your progress none the less. To my understanding you're up from your initial deposit. Great work man. Look forward to hearing the progress of your adventure. Wishing you the best.


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Re: I've Been Thinking About Starting To Gamble For Profit [Re: Finn96]
    #25765026 - 01/24/19 09:23 AM (5 years, 30 days ago)

Lucky guys here! I wish I could win hundreds of dollars like you, hope one day i'll do it. Btw has anyone heard of http://blackjackdoc.com/blackjack-games.htm? I'm playing here. It's the best casino I've ever tried imho


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