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InvisibleSclorch
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Reason for This
    #2576362 - 04/19/04 02:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Must there be a reason for everything?

I had an argument with my epistemology professor a few years back. We were discussing the "big" questions and whatnot. Then we got to the "ultimate" question of WHY.
Why does the universe exist?
Why are we humans here?
Why are we conscious?
Why?

He then went on to address this question. While much of the class was swallowing his dance, I just sat at my desk waiting... and waiting for someone to give him an argument. When no one challenged him (which, thankfully, this particular professor allowed in his class), I raised my hand.
"Have you considered another answer? I mean... maybe everything exists... just because it CAN."
*silence*
Another voice across the room chimes in with "Yeah... why not? Maybe we're just here... and that's all."

I slunk back down into my seat, all eyes looked somewhere else, and I smiled on the inside. My job was done.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2576381 - 04/19/04 02:40 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If I were your professor I would have to bitch-slap you!  :headbang:

Seriously though, there is a HUGE assumption that merely because we are curious, somehow this implies that there must be a areason and an answer. Good point.

Perhaps the universe was bored...


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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2576391 - 04/19/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:mushroom2:

Perhaps the reason we are here is beyond you mortals


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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2576470 - 04/19/04 03:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"I slunk back down into my seat, all eyes looked somewhere else, and I smiled on the inside. My job was done."

Your job done? Would not having a job say there is some sort of reason to why you are doing things ? Just because things 'can exist', does mean they can not.


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: Reason for This [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2576545 - 04/19/04 03:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe it's just about potentials...

Does the void exist like anything else? What is zero? It's just there... it's a potential. A void has the tendency to be filled. How it is filled is probably a more important question, IMHO.


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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2576714 - 04/19/04 05:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

THE void.

It's the emptiness of a valley that makes a valley what it is.


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Re: Reason for This [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2576723 - 04/19/04 05:38 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Mixomatosis said:
THE void.

It's the emptiness of a valley that makes a valley what it is.




Well, technically, there is something there, but that isn't the point. :wink:

The point that, conceptually, there isn't something there. There is the mountain and the mountain and the empty space between. The void exists conceptually.  :laugh:

The void exists conceptually, and it must be pointed out that everything is a concept. Life isn't so much an emphasis on what IS, to the mind, but rather the CONCEPT of what is....

This is all about the meaning, after all, since we are conscious. If we are conscious TO learn, I don't know, but I do know that we DO learn, and it is basically impossible, or perhaps not the point of consciousness, to stop implying meaning... so we keep seeking meaning.

Don't know what I'm saying, but I gotta go.  :grin:

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Peace. :mushroom2:


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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2577103 - 04/19/04 10:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This thought probably made my life really hollow for a while... Then ever since... ive been trying to find something meaningful to fill this life up with. Its pretty damn hard... ill tell you that. There are times when the almost completely obvious absurdity of life comes crashing down... O... well... at least for me anyway.

This brings back memories!  :yesnod:


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Re: Reason for This [Re: Sclorch]
    #2577191 - 04/19/04 11:12 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sclorch said:
Must there be a reason for everything?

I had an argument with my epistemology professor a few years back. We were discussing the "big" questions and whatnot. Then we got to the "ultimate" question of WHY.
Why does the universe exist?
Why are we humans here?
Why are we conscious?
Why?

He then went on to address this question. While much of the class was swallowing his dance, I just sat at my desk waiting... and waiting for someone to give him an argument. When no one challenged him (which, thankfully, this particular professor allowed in his class), I raised my hand.
"Have you considered another answer? I mean... maybe everything exists... just because it CAN."
*silence*
Another voice across the room chimes in with "Yeah... why not? Maybe we're just here... and that's all."

I slunk back down into my seat, all eyes looked somewhere else, and I smiled on the inside. My job was done.




Just because it is, is a very good answer.

Deus's natura qui quae que quod omnis victus expertus.


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