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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25755456 - 01/20/19 07:20 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Simplest substrate for pan cyanescens?



Simplest? It's been done on coir.

Currently I'm using store bought manure and coir 50/50.

Also, Mary's grows with the modified pf cakes will be something I'll be trying.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25755825 - 01/20/19 10:55 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Coir only, no poo? Do they do decent? I'm trying to avoid pastuerizing if at all possible ... I'm lazy and space cased, and typically forget what I'm doing and overheat


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25755831 - 01/20/19 10:57 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Simplest substrate for pan cyanescens?



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18249265/fpart/1/vc/1

Looks like straw, coir, verm can work too. My area only has poo in the warmer season, so I'm likely going to try this recipe (minus the coffee).

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25755849 - 01/20/19 11:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

It's been done with just coir but it's not likely to succeed. Why don't u try the modified pf cakes? Look at Marys grows.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: nube424]
    #25755856 - 01/20/19 11:10 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I'll give them a peak thx


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25756092 - 01/20/19 01:03 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

yeah I have seen it done without poo (supposedly) but not with great results and I have much more commonly seen poo-less pan subs pr4oduce nothing. even with poo pans are tricky to pull up you first times. the biggest difference I feel in growing pans compared to cubes is the moderating of the FC. I run cycles of different rh,fae, and even O2 enrichment at different stages of the fruiting process. mostly you need to create a state of constant evaporation. I check my pans several times a day whereas with cubes I just drop em in FC then forget about them until harvest, pick em soak or mist em then repeat. once you have colonized bulk with cubes you have pretty much won whereas with pans that's the easy part.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25756118 - 01/20/19 01:10 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Wow... well I'm going to swipe some agar later tonight or tomorrow after work... get something different going


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee] * 1
    #25756193 - 01/20/19 01:43 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Wow... well I'm going to swipe some agar later tonight or tomorrow after work... get something different going



hell yeah! they are much more fun to grow imo and I enjoy the pan trip so much more than cubes. pans (well the Australian pans) feel like a acid trip very high visuals low anxiety and they give me energy whereas with cubes im not moving lol. now its really interesting is the differences in chemical compounds. Psilocybin and psilocin are part of the tryptamine family. Their chemical structure is very close to serotonin. All Pans contain serotonin. Cube's and wood lovers do not. psilocin primarily effects the receptors for serotonin, and there is evidence that psilocybin slows the reuptake of serotonin in the brain allowing this neurotransmitter more time to act in the synapse.
tryptamine derivatives in Pan's from Australia, Hawaii and Thailand were investigated. of the 70 specimens collected all of them contained psilocin, serotonin and urea. however Those from Hawaii were also relatively rich in psilocybin, whereas the species from Australia and Thailand had almost no psilocybin and most of the active compound was psilocin. so while i am kinda partial to the saying a cube is a cube the same most definatly cannot be said about pans


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25756222 - 01/20/19 02:02 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Yes... the effects on the seritonergic system are precisely why I dose as large and often as I do... based on what you describe, pans may be more helpful than cubes for my manic/depression swings


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25756286 - 01/20/19 02:33 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Just lost two boxes, but I've got the wind in my sails and I'll carry on until I've nailed it. Two healthy boxes still in the grow zone

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25756290 - 01/20/19 02:36 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah... I'll keep at it till it's stuck to the wall! :goodluck:


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25756298 - 01/20/19 02:39 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah... I'll keep at it till it's stuck to the wall! :goodluck:



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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mullugh]
    #25756331 - 01/20/19 02:56 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

TL;DR - pans are a mind fuck

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee] * 1
    #25756338 - 01/20/19 02:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Wow... well I'm going to swipe some agar later tonight or tomorrow after work... get something different going



hell yeah! they are much more fun to grow imo and I enjoy the pan trip so much more than cubes. pans (well the Australian pans) feel like a acid trip very high visuals low anxiety and they give me energy whereas with cubes im not moving lol. now its really interesting
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Yes... the effects on the seritonergic system are precisely why I dose as large and often as I do... based on what you describe, pans may be more helpful than cubes for my manic/depression swings



exactly. I have boarder line personality disorder, so I dose for similar reasons, and I defiantly notice a longer period of peace and calmness after use macro dosing with the pans. my wife howeveris bipolar for her a micro dose of tamps has been her best medication thus far. it is very interesting being a pioneer of the medicinal benefits of these amazing organisms. be sure to document as much as possible that info could be worth its weight in gold here very soon. because while big pharma can learn to grow em it has taken me years to acquire intimate knowledge of the effects of different species and while everyone is different and will have a unique experience their are tendencies and reports uniform to certain species. just eating mushrooms will not fix you. there is much more to it than that which im sure you know. anyway good luck hope u get em faster than I did because I notice a huge improvement on their effectiveness on my condition. finding the right strain/species is important


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Asura]
    #25756350 - 01/20/19 03:03 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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TL;DR - pans are a mind fuck



really? I don't get a twisted mind (from aussies at least) I actually get a VERY visual but very clearheaded trip, cubes give me anxiety and a mind fuck, tamps give me a incredible body high and the giggles, pan aus give me lots of energy extreme sometimes blinding visuals but they don't make me tear my mind apart inside like some trips where u just cant stop thinking and worrying and you constantly feel like u need something. lol Im not a fan of those trips that's what I consider a "mind fuck"


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25756403 - 01/20/19 03:25 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Similarities and differences,
Same with me regarding Pans at least- spiky mirth- feel like I'm 15yrs old. periods of extreme excitement. Higher energy, longer lasting trip.

But I prefer cubes- much deeper, more synesthesia, divergent in the most delightful directions, somehow more therapeutic and satisfying.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25756431 - 01/20/19 03:37 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I feel an interspecies tea coming!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Caps McGee]
    #25756444 - 01/20/19 03:41 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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I feel an interspecies tea coming!




:devito:

Best idea I've heard in a very long time.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: mary fairchild]
    #25756450 - 01/20/19 03:42 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Similarities and differences,
Same with me regarding Pans at least- spiky mirth- feel like I'm 15yrs old. periods of extreme excitement. Higher energy, longer lasting trip.

But I prefer cubes- much deeper, more synesthesia, divergent in the most delightful directions, somehow more therapeutic and satisfying.



See this is the part that really fascinates me!! do you take them for any specific condition or just the betterment of your mental health in general  or what ? I’m interested in what cubes are treating as you are the first person I’ve ever spoken with who has tried other species and says they prefer cubes.  Cubes probably sit towards the very bottom of my list on all dmt analog psychedelics. I don’t know cubes give me an extreme amount of anxiety and then that mindfuck I suppose I can see how it could be therapeutic as I do dwell on my self during cube trips but they are exhausting it’s just too mush in my head.  As for mixing them I made us some Hattrick chocolates that are pans tamps and a title wave as well as some pan and Tamp chocolates, I have not had the Hattrick yet but the pan and tamp was fantastic


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
    #25756463 - 01/20/19 03:46 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Oh I'm fucking geared up now! Sterilizing agar...


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