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Guy on a buffalo
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Pusynality]
#25671818 - 12/11/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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You dont need to let them consolidate but if you do it doesnt matter...either way.
That's probably a bit too much airflow for initial colonization of the tubs. Might result in drying out unless you keep on top of it but you dont want to be messing with them too much. Most ppl running shoeboxes just put the lid on while it colonized and wait for knotting or pins before cracking or flipping lid to introduce additional air.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* [Re: Guy on a buffalo]
#25683285 - 12/16/18 03:05 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Decided to skip the SGFC and try the bag method with a couple brf jars that actually survived the Penicillium epidemic that took 5 of my 9 jars. They took forever to colonize due to poor temp management, and had a lot of myc piss once they finally did. I don't have super high hopes for these jars, so the minimal effort of this fruiting method seems like a better fit than messing with drilling out the SGFC and the mess of Perlite.
From all the myc piss I saw, I think they are probably rather dry. They've been in fruiting with the bag overtop for 24 hours. I've misted twice. I am not seeing any water droplets on the inside of the bag.
If I'm not seeing water on the inside of the bag, should I assume humidity and therefore moisture in the cake is not high enough? Perhaps I should dunk and then put em back in to their jars with the bags? Any advice?
Edited for clarity.
Edited by Frontiers (12/16/18 03:11 PM)
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Frontiers]
#25694505 - 12/21/18 06:55 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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So do you need to dunk with this method?
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Blacktruffle27
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: thejollyllama]
#25702414 - 12/25/18 04:58 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im nearly at this stage now. Do you put any holes in the plastic bags that you put over the jars?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: thejollyllama]
#25706464 - 12/27/18 06:40 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe I read to dunk but not roll, you put a small layer of dry verm on top of the cake once you put it back in the jar.
My question is, do you mist the dry verm top immediately after placing it in the jar or wait a day for the cakes to start to dry out?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: MrMountain]
#25706539 - 12/27/18 07:15 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mist as soon as you apply it. You can also use a layer of field cap coir.
Put a couple of holes in the bags or if you've several jars you can sit them in a tote/container.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25721457 - 01/03/19 05:49 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Bod! Do you leave the bags on until time to harvest? How do you know when it is time to harvest?
Thank you!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Ssebo]
#25721459 - 01/03/19 05:52 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its time to harvest when you want to cut them down. Preferably before they make a spore mess. Bag keeps them from drying out while you're at work
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25728338 - 01/06/19 11:47 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you! Is it possible to get multiple flushes from the same jar with this method?
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bodhisatta
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Ssebo]
#25728524 - 01/07/19 05:32 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Methods have nothing to do with flushes. Any healthy grow flushes multiple times
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25744768 - 01/14/19 11:51 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: TheLostBoys]
#25746104 - 01/15/19 05:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Wildcat1883]
#25746107 - 01/15/19 06:01 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I’m stupid can’t figure how to upload pictures.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Wildcat1883]
#25749158 - 01/17/19 10:26 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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One of my jars is pinning like crazy at the bottom but not doing anything at the top. They're also sitting in a bit of water since I couldn't get the cake to fit all the way to the bottom. I was thinking of flipping the cake upside down to give them more room to grow, is that a good idea?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: solarfields]
#25749189 - 01/17/19 10:41 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would. Pooling water is half the reason they're pinning down there too
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25751839 - 01/18/19 04:19 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you dunk before putting back in jar? I am assuming so.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: firsttimetryer] 1
#25752164 - 01/18/19 06:30 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have same problem. I just had one with massive side pins but the fruit was still beautiful. And when I flipped the sub over that was the bottom exploded with fruit.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25753944 - 01/19/19 02:55 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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is it necessary to take the cakes out of the jars if the cakes are going back in? If i have a jar that doesn’t fully colonize can i just wash off the top without taking the cake out and cover with fresh verm and a bag??
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: san pedro guy]
#25754321 - 01/19/19 06:23 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you run into a small mouth jar, you could just submerge the whole jar for 24hr. Jars are like babies, you never want to birth one early if you can help it. Often pinning before colonization means contamination--continue the grow and harvest at your own risk.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: pickle jar pete] 1
#25755979 - 01/20/19 12:21 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks Bod for such an awesome simple tek.
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