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President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal
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The wall, humanitarian aid, DACA extensions, Angel parents, and an open government.

If the Dems can't agree on this, then they are morally bankrupt or suffer from TDS.

Courtesy of Dice



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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL]
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If they want the deal, they have to figure out how to spin it as a win for their side. Tough to do. Even tougher to make it look like a loss for Trump since he gets his wall while they get some ancillary immigration policy concessions.

The fact that shutdown is over wall or no wall really has both sides in a quagmire. Someone has to give though.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL] * 1
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You still believe what that man has to say?? Wow you’re gullible dude. How many times do have to be lied to and trolled b4 you realize it  :teareally:


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Citizen X]
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:shrug:

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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Citizen X] * 1
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It doesn't matter. It's up to congress to put a bill on his desk with negotiated terms in it. Then Trump either signs it or doesn't. Of course the issue of what he can do with his executive power remains.

I rarely believe what Trump says. He's a huge liar who contradicts himself from minute to minute. But sometimes I believe him. I believe he wants a wall. I believe he thinks he's great.

He's the only president we have right now and the only way the government opens is with congress and the president making a deal.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 2
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Cool, he had a republican Congress for the last 2 years and he / they didn’t pass it? Come on man this is all a dog and pony show meant to pit one side against the other.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Thundermuscle75 said:
It doesn't matter. It's up to congress to put a bill on his desk with negotiated terms in it. Then Trump either signs it or doesn't. Of course the issue of what he can do with his executive power remains.

I rarely believe what Trump says. He's a huge liar who contradicts himself from minute to minute. But sometimes I believe him. I believe he wants a wall. I believe he thinks he's great.

He's the only president we have right now and the only way the government opens is with congress and the president making a deal.



Mitch McConnel refuses to allow any House legislation to get a vote until trump indicates he will sign it. This is the real problem now. These tools don’t want the public to see it would be the republicans preventing legislation from reaching his desk.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: koods] * 1
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Republicans are  unable to govern, never have been, never will be.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
You still believe what that man has to say??



You aren't focusing on the Policy, but the man. This was good Policy.

TDS often makes people look past policy and attack the actual person with malicious hate.

I do believe him.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL] * 1
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ok Bud. Are you really fuckin calling me out for having some made up condition because I don’t believe a chronic liar?

Are you really going to try and make me uncomfortable because I don’t like liars? That’s a mother fuckin low thing to do.

Fuck off


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Citizen X] * 2
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What's got you so angry today?


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
ok Bud. Are you really fuckin calling me out for having some made up condition because I don’t believe a chronic liar?

Are you really going to try and make me uncomfortable because I don’t like liars? That’s a mother fuckin low thing to do.

Fuck off



It's not a made up condition though.  There are people in this forum that can't argue logically because of their irrational media induced hatred for Trump.  :shrug:


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Citizen X said:
ok Bud. Are you really fuckin calling me out for having some made up condition because I don’t believe a chronic liar?

Are you really going to try and make me uncomfortable because I don’t like liars? That’s a mother fuckin low thing to do.

Fuck off



It's not a made up condition though.  There are people in this forum that can't argue logically because of their irrational media induced hatred for Trump.  :shrug:




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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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To be fair, Donald is developmentally delayed. Here is some proof.

Quote:
I said, “You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?” “No sir.” I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”

It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, “What system are you going to be—” “Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said, “No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”



Digital is pretty obvious, seeing as "digital" defines itself. Albert Einstein is dead and had little to do with "digital," in fact "digital" had long been defined. I believe "digital" has origins in the 15th century.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: christopera]
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Meh.  That only proves he's not a scientist.  :shrug:


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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What does science have to do with basic vocabulary?


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: christopera]
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This is my new favorite stream of drivel

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In a few moments, the American people will hear directly from our frontline border agents about the tremendous flood of illegal immigration, drug trafficking, human trafficking — a phenomena that has been going on for a thousand years or more, and that you’d think was something that modern society wouldn’t have.  And I hate to tell you that, because of the Internet, it’s worse than ever before.  Human trafficking — it’s a horrible thing.  And much of it comes — it’s a world problem, not a U.S. problem only.

And they come across the border, and it’s a bad thing.  And they drive.  They just go where there’s no security, where you don’t even know the difference between Mexico and the United States.  There’s no line of demarcation.  They just go out.  And where there’s no fencing or walls of any kind, they just make a left into the United States, and they come in and they have women tied up.  They have tape over their mouths — electrical tape.  Usually blue tape, as they call it.  It’s powerful stuff.  Not good.

And they have three, four, five of them in vans, or three of them in backseats of cars.  And they just drive right in.  They don’t go through your points of entry.  They go right through.  And if we had a barrier of any kind — a powerful barrier, whether it’s steel or concrete — if we had a barrier, they wouldn’t be able to make that turn.  They wouldn’t even bother trying because they can’t go through the points with people.  So we would stop that cold.  We would stop it cold.  And they can’t fly in, obviously — for obvious reasons.  So we’d stop human trafficking in this section of the world.  I think it would stop it 90, 95 percent.  A tremendous percentage would stop.




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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
To be fair, Donald is developmentally delayed. Here is some proof.

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I said, “You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?” “No sir.” I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”

It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, “What system are you going to be—” “Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said, “No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”



Digital is pretty obvious, seeing as "digital" defines itself. Albert Einstein is dead and had little to do with "digital," in fact "digital" had long been defined. I believe "digital" has origins in the 15th century.




Trump is actually a steampunk. MAGA is all about bringing steam engines back. Zeppelins will be taking off from the aircraft carriers and the pilots will wear trenchcoats, tophats and oldtimey aviator goggles.


The Pilots:


The aircraft:


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Zepplins will be great again.

And observation balloons.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL]
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Food stamps paid thru Febuary.  That is gonna hurt the Trump base hugely!

Dem house is against Trump on all fronts.  Trumps the one not signing the flow lf money.  Dems are being held hostage.  Trump base beimg horribly affected soon!

Neither side has values other than legacy.  Legacy is 100% bullshit anyhow and fits perfectly with being politicized.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Morel Guy]
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Nah.

A wall isn't shit and you know it.

The Dems think it's "immoral" after supporting the physical barrier already there.

If the Demand never supported physical barriers, then this would be different.

Right now they are simply suffering from TDS.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL]
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If the wall isn't shit, why shut down the government over it?


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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People let's think reeeeaaaal hard.  Is a wall really going to stop illegal immigration?  No, it will be a barrier but not a total defense.

$5 billion seems like the usual waste of money at problems.  There will still be drugs.  Just like plan Colombia a waste of money and effort.

The whole thing is so political it doesn't make sense on either side of the reaction.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Citizen X said:
You still believe what that man has to say??



You aren't focusing on the Policy, but the man. This was good Policy.

TDS often makes people look past policy and attack the actual person with malicious hate.

I do believe him.



It’s not good policy. But there should at least be a debate. Trump had two years to engage this issue and he didn’t do anything to make it happen. He had a DACA offer for $25 million before and he said yes then no. This time the White House said it would sign a continuing resolution and the bill was voted for by nearly every member congress. everyone expected him to sign it and a lot of members went home for the holiday. Then trump changed his mind.

Trump isn’t someone you can negotiate with. He’s too fickle and easy to manipulate by right wing media figures.

Waiting until the democrats won the House to pull this stunt demonstrates how poorly he is suited for this job.  Obama got the ACA passed in his first two years despite massive protests and right wing media attacks. And that was a much harder effort than getting some wall funding.

The only person to blame for not getting the wall is Donald trump. It’s just pure incompetence and laziness. He doesn’t put the work in. He doesn’t make honest offers and he doesn’t understand the issues. This is what happens when you elect a man based on his lies.

Donald Trump immigration drivel:

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Beautiful -- Hudson River to his right. We built this gorgeous park all along the river. It's gorgeous. People are running; they're in great shape. We ought to all -- some of these guys in the front row, they should do it with me. We could run. [Laughter] Some of my friends over there. Sonny -- maybe Sonny and I will go take a jog. Laughter] But you know what? I'll tell you, these are people that are great people, and they're running and they keep -- and this horrible person, going down 60 miles an hour down a highway, decides, Oh, that's nice. We'll make a right turn. Hits a whole group of people purposely, screaming all sorts of things that they scream. And 8 people died; 12 or 13 were injured. Nobody talks about the injured. You know, some of the injured lost legs, lost arms. You know, this is -- they say, Oh, well, 12 were injured. You know, like, injured -- you think, like, a headache. No, no. They lost arms. They lost legs. One lost two legs. So 12 were horribly injured.
And he's allowed to have his family come here. So they checked, and they said that he had about 22 people came in -- chain migration. In other words, because he's here -- so a whole group of people come in. And we don't want that. We have another one -- the lottery. The lottery. We take people from countries through the lottery.  Now, this is common sense. Do you think the country is giving us their finest? No, they're not. No, they're not. They're giving us the opposite of their finest. And we have a lottery system. Oh, let's pick him out. Oh, wonderful. Doesn't work out too well, this lottery system. But this is the law. This was passed by Democrats and, I guess, Republicans.



He thinks a headache is a type of injury and that other counties run some kind of lottery to send their worst people. Actually I don’t know what he thinks because he babbles incoherently. There is something wrong with this man cognitively.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: koods]
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I bet if you record most people talking and then make a transcript, it will never appear like a well thought out written paper.

There would be pauses, um, buts, like, uh, pause, oh yeah, and so forth.

One thing I like about Trump is that he goes campaigning without any teleprompter.

From the heart.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL] * 2
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You're probably right because it never sounds like it's coming from any kind of a human brain.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
I bet if you record most people talking and then make a transcript, it will never appear like a well thought out written paper.

There would be pauses, um, buts, like, uh, pause, oh yeah, and so forth.

One thing I like about Trump is that he goes campaigning without any teleprompter.

From the heart.



That was a policy speech.

Two years in he’s winging it like a kid who didn’t do his book report.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: XUL]
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I could appreciate Trump's lack of teleprompter if he didn't sound like a retard when he talked. The never ending use of superlatives is not only dishonest, it's painful. Never mind his lack of understanding of anything in the real world.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: christopera]
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Trump has replaced using filler words like “um” wth lies. So, instead of saying “we need to build, ummmm, a wall” he says “ we need to build - did you see I won Wisconsin. First time a republican won Wisconsin since they’re telling me a long time. It’s never been done. And I’m bringing steel back to Wisconsin and it’s never been there. Wisconsin has lots of cheese that Canada wasn’t buying so I made them buy cheese and I’ve only been president for two years.”


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: koods]
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Wisconsin does have a lot of cheese. Love me some curds.

I believe the US actually has a gigantic stock pile of cheese as well. I've always wondered where it gets stored exactly.


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Re: President Trump calls for unity under one flag, outlines bipartisan deal [Re: koods]
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More than 200 years ago, this very city was at the center of America’s negotiations during the legendary Louisiana Purchase. No one knew how it would all turn out, but President Thomas Jefferson acted decisively for the American people.  After months of negotiations, we got what no one ever imagined possible.  Not only did we gain New Orleans, we doubled the size of the United States; we secured new parts and ports — new parts of the map and globe that we never thought, and new ports, very importantly for American agriculture; and we made our nation the greatest farm country on God’s Earth.  And it remains that.  And it’s now, for the first time in a long time, getting better.  (Applause.)



If you listen to his remarks, he accidentally says “parts” instead of “ports,” but he’s so afraid of admitting any mistake he has to make up that whole section about new parts.


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