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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
lowbrow said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why the fuck was that MAGA kid standing in front of the Indian with a dumb ass smile instead of just ignoring him?  He was clearly taunting him.  Made even clearer by the fact that everyone else was cheering him on.



It could be argued that the native was taunting the kid.



No, it can't.  All of the kids allowed the Indian to pass until he got to that dumbass kid, who decided to block the Indian's path and stand in his way with a threatening smile, as the other kids cheered him on.  They should have both stepped to one side so the Indian could continue his march.



There was no attempt by the Indian to move around the kid - what gives him right of way?

What if the situation had been reversed, and the white kid had approached the larger Native American group, locked eyes and played an instrument in their face? Would your position be any different?

Edit: Further, it seems that more recent information suggests that Mr Phillips put himself in that situation in an attempt to defuse tensions between the Black Israelites and the Catholic school kids.

Edited by Proton (01/21/19 02:02 AM)

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Proton]
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Proton said:
There was no attempt by the Indian to move around the kid - what gives him right of way?



I didn't say he had the right of way.  I said "they should have both stepped to one side so the Indian could continue his march."

Proton said:
What if the situation had been reversed, and the white kid had approached the larger Native American group, locked eyes and played an instrument in their face? Would your position be any different?



If the Indian gave the kid a threatening look while the other Indians cheered him on, then my position would be no different; the Indian would be in the wrong.


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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I see. So the Native was marching and the kid stood in his way, preventing from Marching?

I feel like this is a huge metaphor for divided Nation we have today.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
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the kid was standing with his friends and the Native American marched into their group and banged a drum in the kids face. the kid is under heat for unapologetically standing while white.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Proton] * 1
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Proton said:
Mycolorado said:
People’s racism has been emboldened under Chump, whether or not he’s to blame can be debated but doesn’t change the fact of the matter, so the title is pretty accurate. You say you don’t Trump, but you’re coming off pretty agitated and indignant, likely because we’re discussing racism and you outed yourself earlier in the thread. :shrug:

JHOVA said:


Sorry mario but your princess is in another castle.



We can’t be sure as to what actually went down as the various vids may not have captured everything that was said and done. The princess may not have been found, but some toads sure were. :rofl2:



You started this thread with a clear agenda to promote the idea that there are huge race issues in the US, and that these have been greatly exacerbated since the election of Donald Trump.

It seems that you have jumped the gun here. There is no footage of these children being disrespectful; if you have any, post it. On the contrary, there is myriad footage showing the African American protesters being offensive. They are well within their rights to have said everything they said, but there seems to be no condemnation from you of what is unnecessary abuse from what you seem to think are the "good guys". You are demonstrating that you are quite happy to let your divisive preconceptions override the facts of the matter.



Looked to me like the natives were marching to the steps and were then surrounded.  I hadn’t taken anything the black Israelites were saying into consideration as they weren’t a part of the native group and their bigoted remarks had nothing to do with the natives.  If you don’t want to acknowledge that there is a growing race issue in this country under Chump, that’s your prerogative. :shrug:

Racism Emboldened Under Trump

More

Incidents of Hate under Trump

Yet more

Edited by Mycolorado (01/21/19 09:50 AM)

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Mycolorado]
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Maybe you should actually watch the videos.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow]
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Actually watching the video makes it pretty clear. The indians were being total dickheads. The kid actually played it pretty cool.

A lot of people who were told to go back back to where they came from while someone banged a drum in there face would have lashed out verbally if not physically.


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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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I did.  As mentioned above, it even sounds like the natives were trying to diffuse the situation between the black Israelites and the students by inserting themselves between the two groups at which point they were seemingly surrounded by the students.  Seems as if the old decrepit native was easier for the students to confront than the black guys who were actually throwing verbal insults at them.:shrug:

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Maybe you should actually watch the videos.



Nah, stick with the narrative from the Fake News.  :flowstone:

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Mycolorado] * 2
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Mycolorado said:
I did.  As mentioned above, it even sounds like the natives were trying to diffuse the situation...



I don't know how you could see that without ideological blinders on. The kids seemed to be having a good time. Telling the black isrealites not to be mean. The indians got in the kids faces and insulted them.

If you think they were trying to diffuse the situation by getting in a kids face and shouting, "Go back to Europe. This is not your land.” Would you say the same about a white man getting into a black lives matter protest yelling at a black kid to, "go back to Africa"?


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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 1
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The claim is they said it in response to the the kids saying build the wall.  I can admit, I made the post before the other videos came out that seem to show the natives are as much at fault for the confrontation as the students.  However, we aren’t privy to the insults or actions that Nathan Phillips says he witnessed which may have incensed him enough to approach them.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
The claim is they said it in response to the the kids saying build the wall.



Is there any footage showing the kids saying this?

Mycolorado said:
However, we aren’t privy to the insults or actions that Nathan Phillips says he witnessed which may have incensed him enough to approach them.



If there's no evidence of these insults or actions, why do you believe they happened?

Edited by Proton (01/21/19 12:46 PM)

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Proton] * 2
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It doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility coming from a rowdy group of kids wearing MAGA gear. :shrug:  The kids are also mocking the natives chant and throwing tomahawk signs.  Just cause these kids go to catholic school doesn’t mean they’re angels.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
The claim is they said it in response to the the kids saying build the wall.  I can admit, I made the post before the other videos came out that seem to show the natives are as much at fault for the confrontation as the students.  However, we aren’t privy to the insults or actions that Nathan Phillips says he witnessed which may have incensed him enough to approach them.



Nathan Phillips has already been discredited.  His word means about as much as a turd before being flushed.  Walking into a bunch of high school kids having a school chant WHILE playing a drum is asking for people to sing and dance along.  Fuck race baiter drummer boy.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
It doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility coming from a rowdy group of kids wearing MAGA gear. :shrug:  The kids are also mocking the natives chant and throwing tomahawk signs.  Just cause these kids go to catholic school doesn’t mean they’re angels.



The kangz were the ones yelling that.  That’s on the video. 

The natives, on the other hand, told a bunch of high school children to “go back to Europe”.  Nathan is a lying piece of shit.  He was not doing that to diffuse the situation, he was doing that to start one. 

You know he’s an actor, right?


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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You appear to be awfully incensed there, yourself.  Calm down.  I already said I jumped the gun a bit.  It looks like everyone involved played a role in the confrontation which adds to the point that racism and racial tensions are high and have grown under this administration.  See post above for some links on how it is mainly being directed toward minorities.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Mycolorado said:
It doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility coming from a rowdy group of kids wearing MAGA gear. :shrug:  The kids are also mocking the natives chant and throwing tomahawk signs.  Just cause these kids go to catholic school doesn’t mean they’re angels.



The kangz were the ones yelling that.  That’s on the video. 

The natives, on the other hand, told a bunch of high school children to “go back to Europe”.  Nathan is a lying piece of shit.  He was not doing that to diffuse the situation, he was doing that to start one. 

You know he’s an actor, right?



Source on "he's an actor"?

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: qman]
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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: lowbrow]
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/covington-catholic-school-center-d-c-march-video-facing-threats-n961056

Thanks to the MSM and liberals creating a false narrative of the events!

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/nathan-phillips-lied-the-media-bought-it/

No, the Fake News buying into a fake story, I don't believe it.

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Re: Trump’s America [Re: qman]
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It's pretty clear from any video you watch that the high school kid was trying to intimidate the Indian with the encouragement of his buddies.

What's up with his dumbass staredown?


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