Ep1429 said:

Sure, you can flip the lid over (that’s all you do to put them in fruiting conditions). You don’t need to do anything else. What you are seeing is perfectly healthy mycelium. Just be patient and keep your environmental conditions right.

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Ep1429 said:

The water the mushrooms are going to use to grow is contained in the substrate, it doesn’t come from the misting.  Your substrate is shrinking because the mycelium is taking this water in and growing, consolidating the sub.  That is perfectly normal, not an effect of simply flipping the lid over.

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MikeCrg said:

Ep1429 said:

The water the mushrooms are going to use to grow is contained in the substrate, it doesn’t come from the misting.  Your substrate is shrinking because the mycelium is taking this water in and growing, consolidating the sub.  That is perfectly normal, not an effect of simply flipping the lid over.

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Okies, shall I take the cling film down and put the lid the other way around ? Still if the substrate is drying and shrinking I still think it s not enough humidity inside , now it looks like this only with the small holes and the temperature around 28 degrees, with the lid upside down and around 20 degrees all the walls of the tub dry, everything dryes really fast, I am referring to what is on the top of the caseing layer, it just doesn’t t look like what I am seeying here on the forum
thanks for the fast answer!!!

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Ep1429 said:

MikeCrg said:

Ep1429 said:

The water the mushrooms are going to use to grow is contained in the substrate, it doesn’t come from the misting.  Your substrate is shrinking because the mycelium is taking this water in and growing, consolidating the sub.  That is perfectly normal, not an effect of simply flipping the lid over.

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Okies, shall I take the cling film down and put the lid the other way around ? Still if the substrate is drying and shrinking I still think it s not enough humidity inside , now it looks like this only with the small holes and the temperature around 28 degrees, with the lid upside down and around 20 degrees all the walls of the tub dry, everything dryes really fast, I am referring to what is on the top of the caseing layer, it just doesn’t t look like what I am seeying here on the forum
thanks for the fast answer!!!

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Yes, it is definitely drying out.  That’s what I’m attempting to say.  You know that all chemical equations balance, correct?  Everything you put into a closed system will remain in the closed system, no matter how many transformations it goes through inside.

Your mono is no different.  You packed it full of decomposing organic material, soaked to a carrying capacity, and introduced a singular living organism that is going to use the physical structure of the manure to anchor itself, the nutrients gleaned from the grain source, and the water contained in the high surface area of what is essentially an O3 layer in soil science, as it colonizes and grows it’s own physical structure.

It’s why potting soil in your houseplant draws up.  Resources are taken from the soil and converted into physical growth by the plant.

Your mono had water, soil structure, and nutrient availability.  The volume of space those things took up was eliminated, and the mycelium is in the process of converting those groceries into mushroom tissue.  If you grow a lb of mushrooms, those are 90% water.  Gallon weighs 8 lbs, so when you harvest them, you’re removing almost a pint of water from the system, and the volume it took up.

People dunk subs after their flushes so that the organic material inside the sub can rehydrate and they can get bigger flushes, because so much water is lost from the system during colonization and fruiting.

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Ep1429 said:

I think patience is key.  Just let them do their thing for the first flush, and see what it looks like from there.  Until you remove mushrooms from the system, the amount of water “lost” is going to be fairly minimal.

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Patience and patience ...
really bad at it, I created space for air exchange and yes this is what happened after last night,
some of the micelium from the casing is blueish (not all of it ) just here and there  , maybe gray green, it started drying tho and I think it was because of some water drops that were laying on the mycelium hopefully it s gonna be alright, can t wait to eat the first one, on the other side I made one more tub that is going great, this one will have better conditions and yea thanks for all the help!!!
Best regards

bodhisatta said:

Don't look up posts that are 10+ years old. Overlay doesn't happen to cubensis.

Never scrape... Ever

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Ep1429 said:

To me, it looks like damage to the existing mycelium, and not an outside contam.  That would mean you’re still in the clear, just keep your mitts off the tubs until they flush.

But bod has vastly more experience, you might want to wait until/if he offers you guidance.

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Ep1429 said:

It won’t recover if you keep messing with it.  Leave it alone.

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Ep1429 said:

It won’t recover if you keep messing with it.  Leave it alone.

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I have next pictures from the tub looks like it s getting more grey than white, is it going to be ok still ?
Thanks you