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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Charge and try them or set them free.
    #2574522 - 04/18/04 05:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This has gone on way too long.





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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2574926 - 04/18/04 09:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Damn straight.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2575292 - 04/18/04 10:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

scary shit.

I pray they see through the smokescreens
and recognize this sort of behavior flies
directly in the face of the constitution.

war time or not.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: afoaf]
    #2575770 - 04/19/04 12:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It's kind of tough, because what if you are reasonably sure somebody is a terrorist but you can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt? Is it ok to let free knowing they could endanger innocent people?


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2575782 - 04/19/04 12:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Agreed. It's long past time to decide. It can't take that long to check constitutional law on this. Either they are enemy combatants (and thus POWs) or they aren't. I'm too lazy tonight to reread the Constitution. Does anyone here know whether the Constitution assigns the power to designate who is and isn't a POW to POTUS or to SCOTUS?

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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2575788 - 04/19/04 12:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If you're reasonably sure someone's a terrorist there should be reasonably sure proof of that. Otherwise, without proof, it's all speculation and hunches.

All people should have the right to a fair trial, even terrorists.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Ravus]
    #2576089 - 04/19/04 01:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, considering how long it has been the gov't should put up or shut.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2576615 - 04/19/04 04:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm looking forward to the compensation cases.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2576715 - 04/19/04 05:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

nah,put knives to their throats and tell the iraqis,"you kill a hostage we kill a pow"


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: ]
    #2576727 - 04/19/04 05:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think any of them are Iraqis.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2576989 - 04/19/04 09:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the syrian insurgents who represent the iraqis?
not too long ago they were one and the same
the iran/iraq war was called, "the brother against brother war".


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2576992 - 04/19/04 09:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i was under the impression several were U.S. citizens


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: ]
    #2577229 - 04/19/04 11:26 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the syrian insurgents who represent the iraqis?

Are these in Gitmo Bay? Or in Iraq?

The figure I saw was a grand total of 2% of the people arrested for "insurgency" in Iraq have been foreigners.

the iran/iraq war was called, "the brother against brother war".

And they had no problems killing each other did they. So why do you think the Iraqis are going to care if the US held a knife to some guy from Afghanistan?


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2577642 - 04/19/04 01:56 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
I'm looking forward to the compensation cases.




IF BushCo lets them go(and don't expect an apology notice to be sent to them) I'm sure he can invent some new law prohibiting the US from being sued if they fuck up and trample someones civil rights. Got to fight the war, dontchaknow!


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: Xlea321]
    #2577791 - 04/19/04 02:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i saw some general on fox news today say 1000 insurgents, cash and arms from syria were sent to all the trouble spots like fallujah to organise the uprising that the coalition is facing today,exactly when they were sent i didn't hear but thats what they said

would they care:

the militant moslem nations (militants not the peaceful and feel free to tell me which ones they are besides ex-patriot muslims)seem to be caring by sending the said insurgents there.
you're just trying to catch me out on the word 'iraq'.
the hostage takers whatever race they are, aren't going to like us fighting fire with fire are they?
would the actual hostage takers be them afghanis,iranians, iraqis, pakistanis or africans like to see their brothers in arms at guatamala pow camp, held in the same position as the hostages the insurgents have taken?---->

{they want us to free the pows' in exchange for innocent hostages.
we only exchange pows' for pows' , one for one ,not one for 100's during battle and thats only when it's a stalemate.
an innocent hostage isn't a pow
Isn't it life in prison for taking a hostage in america}?

---->no i think they would respect that(hate us as normal but respect us none the less) it's their own tactic.
remember they feed of our righteousness ie we feed the enemy,don't shoot/hang prisoners,follow the geneva convention(they've studied that book to learn how to fight dirty against the west i'll give you the mail).

they also said pakistan soldiers were getting ready by spreading out over their boarder to catch the fleeing al qaeda members they have given a deadline to surrender (or flee mind you) .
could it be that that is a way to send more insurgents under the lie of "we chased them out of pakistan, its not our fault they went straight to iraq armed to the teeth"?

why did muslims in kosovo shoot at american UN peacekeepers yesterday,killing two women and a man after the americans freed them from milosevic?
they said it was because they "didn't like what america is doing to iraq"
so they kill the very people who are protecting them now and none of them (UN or muslims) have anything to do with iraq.


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Re: Charge and try them or set them free. [Re: ]
    #2578003 - 04/19/04 03:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think that doing so would stir up more shit than we'd be able to deal with. At least now we have, in most peoples eyes, the moral high ground. Threatening to kill enemy combatants (or what ever we decide that they are) is ludacris. We aren't like "them".


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