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My first time!
#25735894 - 01/10/19 02:06 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi folks! first time registering here!
I've decided to give it a go (wish me luck). Ordered 4 syringes of P. Cubensis.
Question: when I was at the garden shop getting vermiculite i grabbed a plastic enclosed grow area, it has a black base about 3 or 4 inches high and a clear plastic just sits on top of that which has 2 vents on the top. will this suffice?
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Welcome to the shroomery, p. Cubensis is a good choice for a beginner. Post a picture of the container you mentioned. If you have trouble uploading your photos, check out this link: https://www.shroomery.org/5286/How-do-I-put-pictures-in-my-post
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Re: My first time! [Re: Doc9151]
#25736173 - 01/10/19 04:35 PM (2 years, 1 month ago) |
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I know the thing you're talking about. I've got one for starting seeds. I'm assuming you mean using it for a fruiting chamber. What tek are you following? It might work but I think the little vents might not give you enough FAE. Plus once you get it all loaded up it'll be very close to not tall enough for mushrooms that grow that way. If you're doing PF tek with something like GTs you might be able to pull it off. If you're growing PEs they'll probably lift the lid.
Your best bet for a first time is to pick a tek and follow it to the letter. Once you get a handle on what you're dealing with then mess around with experimenting.
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Well I'm starting to see growth! First group of 12 jars were inoculated 7 days ago, second group of 24 were done 4 or 5 days ago.
So far there are 4 definite casualties to the evil green, and 2 are questionable. I'm thinking to not 'question' and assume they are goners.
Now, I have another dozen to inoculate. I'm wondering if i should carefully dispose of the contents of the contaminated ones and try again or just toss the whole jars.

This one is the worst one....eww :-(
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If you're worried about spreading mold spores in your grow area PC the contammed jars before tipping them out and then just wash them in the sink. Or just tip them in the garden and then wash them in the sink. No point wasting a reusable jar in my mind.
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Re: My first time! [Re: Rederick]
#25792270 - 02/05/19 09:10 AM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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I injected them with bleach and let them sit for an hour before dumping the contents and washing the jars
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I open mine in a bucket of soapy water to flood the jars then dump them out in the compost pile.
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I think I see good growth in a few of the jars!

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Re: My first time! [Re: Doc9151]
#25792983 - 02/05/19 03:55 PM (2 years, 20 days ago) |
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Doc9151 said: I open mine in a bucket of soapy water to flood the jars then dump them out in the compost pile.
That's way less screwing around than PCing them, I'm going to start doing it that way.
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Well, I'm seeing some good growth on a handful of the jars:

I've had to bleach and toss a total of 11 jars, out of 36 inoculated so far.
I have 4 questionable ones placed in a different room as well (I realize just moving rooms isn't ideal but it's all I can do for now).
These 2 images are from the questionable jars:
This one the lower white growth seems to have a different texture than what I have observed so far, it seems to be more dense, sort of a 'wet' looking solid mass, whereas the other grown looks sort of a white fuzz when reaches the glass sort of reaches out in every direction.

This one has what looks like brown or copper colored growth near the dry verm layer, any ideas?
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Congrats. There's a really good writeup on contams complete with pics here on the site under the contaminants section I believe. I found it a really helpful read. You have some good stuff happening there it looks like. Question? How are they getting air? Here is a link https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23130868
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Re: My first time! [Re: Anoobus]
#25804628 - 02/11/19 12:04 AM (2 years, 15 days ago) |
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Thanks for the link. They're getting air through the holes in the lids. The ones that have been contaminated I put tape over and dump 40ml bleach into them and let them sit for a couple hours then dump out and clean the jar.
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TOSS THE CONTAMINATED JARS!! The jars are less than $1. You'll use that much energy pressure cooking them. Plus the time that you could use more productively. If there was ZERO chance that I would spread any contaminants in my grow area, I would still toss them and spend the time learning agar! It's stupid easy and you'll be glad you did. Just my opinion. Good luck!! It's fun!!
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Theres no point wasting perfectly good jars even if they are cheap, not like the spores are actually dangerous or anything and when you can just open the jar in a sink or a bucket of water theres no sense in tossing it imo.
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Re: My first time! [Re: Rederick]
#25805137 - 02/11/19 09:32 AM (2 years, 14 days ago) |
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Rederick said: Theres no point wasting perfectly good jars even if they are cheap, not like the spores are actually dangerous or anything and when you can just open the jar in a sink or a bucket of water theres no sense in tossing it imo.
I reuse mine all the time. 
Proper sterilization will kill any remaining garbage.
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Re: My first time! [Re: Tormato]
#25805546 - 02/11/19 01:09 PM (2 years, 14 days ago) |
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17 days since the first inoculations and seeing some good progress with no more signs of contamination.
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Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Tormato]
#25814603 - 02/15/19 03:20 PM (2 years, 10 days ago) |
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well a good amount of the jars are growing nicely, some very close to 100%!

I am not planning on doing the traditional PF Tek, I'm going to spawn them to CVG.
I've seen some teks use 5 quarts of BRF cake spawn per monotub, this seems like a lot no?
Curious about the amount of spawn I should be using when I do end up having to do it, I had planned on doing 5 tubs, but with 5 quarts per tub, that only equated to about 2 tubs using every jar. It looks as though these will be ready at different times so id like to know a minimum amount of spawn to use.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25814769 - 02/15/19 04:32 PM (2 years, 10 days ago) |
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Looking good so far.
I too reuse the jars from contams, you can sterilize it easily.
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My cakes seem to look strange to me. The mycellium in some of them really looks like its thin and reaching around, most of the myc I have seen in pictures are solid.....whats up?
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25816252 - 02/16/19 10:09 AM (2 years, 9 days ago) |
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TheDude11 said: My cakes seem to look strange to me. The mycellium in some of them really looks like its thin and reaching around, most of the myc I have seen in pictures are solid.....whats up?

Mine looked this way too, it's when it first starts spreading before it really takes a hold of that spot. Give it some time and it will consolidate.
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Reaches around the jar and also colonizes the middle. You're looking at a two-dimensional expression of something that's happening in three dimensions.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: MadValley]
#25816807 - 02/16/19 03:41 PM (2 years, 9 days ago) |
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@op, they're perfectly healthy and not saturated, thats what's up
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: nube424]
#25817925 - 02/17/19 02:16 AM (2 years, 9 days ago) |
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The far right jar looks to have a green spot at the eleven o'clock position on the mycelium. All the other jars have a mix of tomentose and rhizomorphic mycelium which is common in multispore grows.
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running into a couple bumps in the road [Re: TheDude11]
#25829992 - 02/22/19 02:39 PM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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So it seems like a few of the jars are just stalled or didn't start to colonize at all. The room that they are in can get a little cool.
So i tried something to keep a more consistent environment. I grabbed an aquarium heater and put it in a large coffee can full of water in that will be my monotub (has no holes yet).
At least it will help keep a more consistent temperature. But I' m unsure about the humidity, think it'll be a problem?
Also, I need to make sure i do proper sterile procedure. I underestimated how adamant people are about it and I lost a lot of my BRF jars. I had enough spores to redo them though.
Also, just for fun I decided to try WBS, pressure cooked and inoculated 2 or 3 days ago. So I'm curious to see how that goes.
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Re: running into a couple bumps in the road [Re: TheDude11]
#25831282 - 02/23/19 03:19 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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How cool is a little cool? mine have been fine at temps down in the 40's farenheit, it slows down but it is fine.
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Re: running into a couple bumps in the road [Re: Doc9151]
#25831300 - 02/23/19 03:47 AM (2 years, 3 days ago) |
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not THAT cool, like it's still comfortable in my place. I don't know farenheit, probably goes 17-23 Celcius (60-75ish f).
There is quite a bit of humidity being created in the bin now.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25833080 - 02/23/19 08:14 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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So I came across a great deal on a pressure cooker online and picked it up. Thing is, nowhere does it state the pressure adjustment or ability to adjust the pressure, so I don't know what the pressure actually gets to. So my question is in order to ensure success with this cooker until I can get a good one do I just do jars for longer times? How long? thanks! I don't want to post a pic because I'm on mobile right now and don't know how to shrink it but it's a 6l one from bed bath and beyond.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25833095 - 02/23/19 08:21 PM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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TheDude11 said: So I came across a great deal on a pressure cooker online and picked it up. Thing is, nowhere does it state the pressure adjustment or ability to adjust the pressure, so I don't know what the pressure actually gets to. So my question is in order to ensure success with this cooker until I can get a good one do I just do jars for longer times? How long? thanks! I don't want to post a pic because I'm on mobile right now and don't know how to shrink it but it's a 6l one from bed bath and beyond.
Is it the type of PC with the weight where you time it when it blows off steam? Just read the instructions, once or twice a minute and you are good to go, just experiment with the dial on your stove until you get it in the sweet spot.
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Pressure cooker [Re: Nighted]
#25833745 - 02/24/19 01:52 AM (2 years, 2 days ago) |
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The only mention in the manual of the pressure capabilities are the cooking time charts, they are based off 12 psi.
I read in the Pressure Cooker Tek that Bod taped a few quarters to the valve to achieve a bit higher psi. I assume this is doable with this one too?
It says it's normal to hear it hiss or whistle when it is at pressure but if it starts to rattle its too high, but the rattling may come around 15psi.
Anyway, I'm happy I have one now. I'll be using the last of the spores I have to inoculate a few WBS jars after PCing them tomorrow.
Ideally, I'd love to be able to harvest at least 1 flush from a few tubs by the middle of May, since I'll be moving to a temporary location for 6 months that won't allow me the space to do mycology.
Edited by TheDude11 (02/24/19 02:10 AM)
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Took a crack at grain, and SUCCESS! [Re: TheDude11]
#25866705 - 03/11/19 12:14 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Hi!,
So as my BRF cakes are nearing 100% colonization, well some of them anyway, I decided, for the sake of fun and curiosity, to try doing WBS, after almost giving up on them I can finally see growth in one of them!!! This makes me very happy!
I should be receiving a good amount of rye tomorrow, Is it realistic to think that i might be able to do g2g and get enough grain spawn to do a nice harvest with the grains within the next 2 months? May 10ish is the deadline, as I'm moving.
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Re: Took a crack at grain, and SUCCESS! [Re: TheDude11]
#25867790 - 03/11/19 05:04 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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There is a difference between a pressure cooker and a pressure canner, you need a pressure canner, pressure cooker will not get hot enough and stay away from the electric pressure cooker.
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nice choice, you can grow them sooner or later.
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Decided to go a little crazy and try the grain thing......im happy! 2 days.
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TheDude11 said: Decided to go a little crazy and try the grain thing......im happy! 2 days.

That is mold if it's only been 2 days.
Edit: Did you see my comment about pressure canner vs pressure cooker? Your grains are not getting sterilized.
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Re: My first time! [Re: Doc9151]
#25880052 - 03/17/19 02:36 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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TheDude11 said: Decided to go a little crazy and try the grain thing......im happy! 2 days.

That is mold if it's only been 2 days.
Edit: Did you see my comment about pressure canner vs pressure cooker? Your grains are not getting sterilized.
Doesn't look like mold to me bud. I just used a jar to make 8 more via G2G. Smelled just fine. I'll be spawning in the next couple days.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25880206 - 03/17/19 03:49 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Good and healthy ropey strands! 👍😎
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Anoobus]
#25884340 - 03/19/19 09:15 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Just an update.....I have mostly everything spawned. have 1 more bucket or so worth of spawn colonizing. The myc is starting to poke through the casing layer of verm/coir.





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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25884373 - 03/19/19 09:29 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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That's looking absolutely great my dude. Couldn't tell from your original post. Is this your first rodeo? How much $ did you sink into this project if you dont mind me asking. Seeing these pictures is motivating me to give a bulk growing tek a shot.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Rickybalboa]
#25884511 - 03/19/19 10:25 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Rickybalboa said: That's looking absolutely great my dude. Couldn't tell from your original post. Is this your first rodeo? How much $ did you sink into this project if you dont mind me asking. Seeing these pictures is motivating me to give a bulk growing tek a shot.
This is my first time. I've spent a decent amount of extra/unnecessary money with the huccups and mind changes but the experience was worth it.
Me, being me, whenever I get an interest or hobby I tend to jump in head first and get very involved very quickly.
At first I was taking all the advice and was just going to go standard PF Tek. But of course I had to complicate things, and the cakes were taking awhile to colonize and I was getting frustrated of the contaminated jars. So I decided to amp it up and got a PC, tried WBS with some success, then the rye, which is now, by far, my preferred method.
I also have an Agar kit on the way, as I am leaving for a few months and I don't particularly want to start from scratch and wait for germination again, I'm hoping to successfully make some dishes that I can tinker with when I get back.
These things are truly fascinating.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25907775 - 03/31/19 02:35 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well things are moving along nicely!

A big problem however. In 6 days I'm going out of the country for 10 days, and judging by the way things have been going, my first flush is going to happen in that window of time. I have a trusted friend who will come and look at things while I'm away, but he'll probably have to harvest the first flush.
Don't even get to pick my first babies! 
If this does happen, is it OK to leave the bin as is after the first flush for a few days before dunking for the second? I'd rather do that when I get back than have someone else do it for me.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25908519 - 03/31/19 10:27 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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TheDude11 said: Well things are moving along nicely!

A big problem however. In 6 days I'm going out of the country for 10 days, and judging by the way things have been going, my first flush is going to happen in that window of time. I have a trusted friend who will come and look at things while I'm away, but he'll probably have to harvest the first flush.
Don't even get to pick my first babies! 
If this does happen, is it OK to leave the bin as is after the first flush for a few days before dunking for the second? I'd rather do that when I get back than have someone else do it for me.
When it comes time to harvest, I would fill the tub and float the substrate to the top, it makes for easier harvesting and you irrigate the substrate at the same time.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Doc9151]
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TheDude11 said: Well things are moving along nicely!

A big problem however. In 6 days I'm going out of the country for 10 days, and judging by the way things have been going, my first flush is going to happen in that window of time. I have a trusted friend who will come and look at things while I'm away, but he'll probably have to harvest the first flush.
Don't even get to pick my first babies! 
If this does happen, is it OK to leave the bin as is after the first flush for a few days before dunking for the second? I'd rather do that when I get back than have someone else do it for me.
When it comes time to harvest, I would fill the tub and float the substrate to the top, it makes for easier harvesting and you irrigate the substrate at the same time.
How long do you let it sit in the water?
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
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I was recently told to let it float for an hour and siphon off the water. Also, try noir to get the topic the substrate soaked. I soaked mine and it’s taking longer to get the second flush. A good misting would have been better than soak/dunking it.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: bendrider]
#25910882 - 04/02/19 05:28 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Seeing the first little babies!. I'm so excited! but saddened that I have to be away for a lot of this stage. 
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25914614 - 04/04/19 02:03 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well after 3 days, the veil is breaking on the little guy:

Not sure why this one has so much energy. I'm just seeing a handful starting to come through the surface, yet this one is done already..... Is this normal?
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25915524 - 04/04/19 03:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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With multispore grows, everything is normal. Its just a faster fruiting strain. U can try cloning it and maybe get a fast fruiting strain.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: nube424]
#25915574 - 04/04/19 04:20 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I'm already hours away. They're being babysat by a friend, with very detailed instructions.
I'm pretty bummed about having to let someone else harvest my first successful grow. Just ended up being really crappy timing.
Can you folks please give me suggestions? I told him to pick them as they grow when the veil breaks, so he'll likely be picking some everyday for the next few days until the flush is done. This is advisable yes? Since it is a multisport and first flush they won't be growing very evenly?
What do you recommend as far as method? With that one I gently twisted it off the myc, but it felt like I was damaging the myc that way, would it be better to have him use a clean blade?
They will obviously have to be stored over the next 10 days. What is an easy method of drying them? Or should I tell him to put them in a paper bag and put them in the fridge until I can get back. Then I can properly dry them.
I'm trying to make things as easy as possible for the babysitter, as he knows nothing about cultivating mushrooms.
Thanks for the tips
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25915622 - 04/04/19 04:44 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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multi spore will pin at different times because of all the different genetics present, if you want, you can do isolation until you have a monoculture and then everything will grow at the same rate.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Doc9151]
#25915629 - 04/04/19 04:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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That's my plan over the next couple of months, since I'll be living away from home I plan on utilizing the 'no-grow' time to hone in some good strains. Got an agar kit with peatry dishes coming tomorrow.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25923778 - 04/08/19 09:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Today's update pic:
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25923799 - 04/08/19 09:25 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I like to cut with a pair of sharp snips, when ever I twist and pull I fuck up the top layer. then they go straight into the dehydrator set at 160..
Get your friend to buy a dehydrator, doesn't have to be fancy they are cheap. if thats not an option find a space heater and dry then on a window screen in a small space like a closet or a cardboard box (homemade dehydrator)
The longer they take to dry the less potent they will be due to oxidization. Congrats on the first grow, you got some healthy fruits there.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: staytrippy420] 1
#25926118 - 04/10/19 05:13 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well this happened:

Only one of the tubs is taking off like crazy like this though, everything else is just small fruits here and there so I'm not sure what's up. This 1 tub sure does make me happy though.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25927285 - 04/10/19 06:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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well this does give me a little hope. gonna start my first run in a week or so.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25929453 - 04/11/19 09:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheDude11 said: Well this happened:

Only one of the tubs is taking off like crazy like this though, everything else is just small fruits here and there so I'm not sure what's up. This 1 tub sure does make me happy though.
Are the other hubs multi spore grow? If so they will mature at different times and be of different sizes.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: Doc9151]
#25939780 - 04/17/19 01:35 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I yeilded about 1.5 dry oz from the first round in the one bin, and its looking like a nice second flush is on it's way:

Still not much happening in the other one, however I'm fairly confident it will explode soon. I think it may be from lifting it to move it, the bottom is pretty flexible so the weight disturbed the mycelium formation. I have positioned it so it doesn't have to be moved.
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Re: Coming along nicely......so close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25941434 - 04/18/19 01:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Trying this agar thing out....
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And it comes to a close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25960501 - 04/28/19 01:34 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Well my first grow is coming to a close and I'm getting ready to go on a 5 month job.
Trying to get a few agar dishes going so I can throw them in the fridge and have them be ready for immediate inoculation when I get back.
I would sum this up as a success, although the yeild wasn't near what I had hoped. But there was a ton of trial and error intentionally on my part. I wanted to test out different methods of doing things to get a feel of what worked best for me. I believe I have accomplished that and am confident my next round will be a great success. So on that, I'm going to take my 2oz yeild have have an awesome summer.
Until next time Shroomers!
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Re: And it comes to a close! [Re: TheDude11]
#25962386 - 04/29/19 12:36 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheDude11 said: Well my first grow is coming to a close and I'm getting ready to go on a 5 month job.
Trying to get a few agar dishes going so I can throw them in the fridge and have them be ready for immediate inoculation when I get back.
I would sum this up as a success, although the yeild wasn't near what I had hoped. But there was a ton of trial and error intentionally on my part. I wanted to test out different methods of doing things to get a feel of what worked best for me. I believe I have accomplished that and am confident my next round will be a great success. So on that, I'm going to take my 2oz yeild have have an awesome summer.
Until next time Shroomers!

Share pictures of your mushroom observations while out on this job you're heading too, you never know when you will find something good, worth printing for later use. Good luck and hope this job goes smoothly.
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Re: And it comes to a close! [Re: Doc9151]
#25970852 - 05/03/19 11:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah I guess it might be worth my while to start learning IDs on wild ones. I'll be living in the rockies and hiking quite a bit, I'll start my homework!
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