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Does tripping make you a better person?
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I now have 3 trips under my belt: a level 2, 3, and 4.  The one theme that I came across was intense love for my fellow humans. It is rather odd because I have become quite the misanthrope over the years, so it does make me feel like deep down I have that in me. I guess my question is this: after multiple trips, do you feel shrooms have made you a better person? More empathetic? Or do you feel the deep knowledge you have attainted makes you feel more distant from people when you aren’t on a trip?

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants]
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Mushies will definitely make you a better person.
If you use them right that is, some people try feeding it to their dogs. :facepalm:
I’m definitely a better person overall because of mushrooms.
They saved my life quite literally.


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Astonish]
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So it wasn’t just the self-reflection that came with them that helped you? How do you feel that it has made you a better person?

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants] * 1
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vodkapants said:
So it wasn’t just the self-reflection that came with them that helped you? How do you feel that it has made you a better person?


Self reflection was a biggie too.
I made a thread about how they saved my life.
I’ll sum it up here, I used to be extremely suicidal and depressed, misanthropic, shrouded
In anxiety that rendered me catatonic on bad days, with plenty of other issues as well.
Mushrooms absolutely destroyed my depression, I literally have none at all, no suicidal tendencies,
Existentially serene, I don’t have any anxiety attacks at all, I have some very mild anxiety sometimes from certain situations that made the anxiety well founded.
The self reflection in a trip showed me some serious bullshit I had been doing.
For example I lost my soulmate because I was being an absolute idiot.
I was a bad alcoholic making bad decisions after I lost my job from being sick,
And I lost all motivation and we were in a very bad situation.
She was my everything and I fucked it up. And they showed me everything,
All the absolute fucked up decisions and situations I put us in.
And no I don’t drink anymore besides maybe 1-2glasses of wine every other week.
I’ve changed a lot because of them, for the better. And I owe my life to them because I certainly
Would have offed myself by now. I’ve never had a bad trip and the relationship with the mushrooms
Is full of love, and trust. To the point I take extremely high doses without any trepidation. It’s always a learning experience, and always improves some other aspect about me.
This type of relationship and experience is not the case for everyone, and there is horror stories
Of people and mushrooms, but that’s not the case with me not could it be.
I advocate for them hardcore but some people really shouldn’t be eating them.
Mushrooms are also my favorite hobby, cultivation and hunting is seriously amazing and fun.
But I have changed ALOT since then, and my life is 1000x better. 
I wish I could elucidate as much as possible for my gratitude to them.
But yeah self reflection will kick your ass if you let it.
Take the negative thoughts and learn from it.


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Edited by Astonish (01/08/19 06:12 AM)

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants]
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Deeper understanding of emotions/the human mind and why people do the things that they do coupled with a renewed appreciation and curiosity for life and beauty.

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Infinitysquared]
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Tripping is temporary and won't 'make' you a better person.  Like all things it's a tool.  I've seen people that have tripped that still have issues or are dead from OD'ing on something else.

You either continue to walk the path, or you don't.  Lot's of folks get sidetracked.


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
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Tripping made me realize that people around me are very stupid :shrug: I enjoy being alone more than before.


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: grati]
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grati said:
Tripping made me realize that people around me are very stupid :shrug: I enjoy being alone more than before.


I feel similar. Most people are egoistic, selfish and narrow minded.

But now the more so I enjoy meeting open-minded people. :thumbup:

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Astonish]
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I haven't had a drink in 9 days. I cant remember the last time that happened but likely 10+ years ago. I no longer have the urge since my level 3 trip on New Year's Eve. I feel that is a good sign.

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: grati]
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grati said:
Tripping made me realize that people around me are very stupid :shrug: I enjoy being alone more than before.


Are you younger? I feel like I am too jaded and hoping to reverse it. I was more optimistic in my 20s.

Edited by vodkapants (01/08/19 09:23 AM)

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants]
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Psychedelics made me quit using alcohol, speed and mdma regualrily, and also avoid daily cannabis use.
Now I have about one or two drinks a month, I don't take any speed anymore, take mdma maybe once a year only, and smoke weed roughly once in a month.

+ I take care of what I eat. No more fatty fast food, but fresh cooking everyday.
I live alot healthier now. :thumbup:

I trip once or twice every month, though, on various psychedelics. Alternately lsd, shrooms, mescaline, dmt, and other tryptamines..

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Tripping is temporary and won't 'make' you a better person.  Like all things it's a tool.  I've seen people that have tripped that still have issues or are dead from OD'ing on something else.

You either continue to walk the path, or you don't.  Lot's of folks get sidetracked.


  You said it, it's a tool used for many purposes. One of which is self improvement.
  Drugs won't make you do anything but they can clear a path of positive thinking. But like you said it's temporary and we must take and utilize these sometimes hard truths about our lives to be happier. It's a slippery path but you gotta keep moving in the direction you think is right for you. Also F Trump.

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants]
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vodkapants said:
grati said:
Tripping made me realize that people around me are very stupid :shrug: I enjoy being alone more than before.


Are you younger? I feel like I am too jaded and hoping to reverse it. I was more optimistic in my 20s.


I'm only 23


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: LosTresOjos]
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Yeah, the Path is the thing. I found that psychedelic use made my Path quite visible - even now 40+ years after my last trip. If you can stay with it long enough to learn that then they'll say goodbye for a while to let you incorporate that knowledge into your day-to-day reality. When it's time again - as it is now for me - they'll give you a call.

But, again for me but also one or two others that have responded, the insight you get will make you realize how shallow and superficial the lives that most people come to lead really are. That has greatly contributed to my skepticism and cynicism about humanity. There are, as grati and Pandemoon imply, many more people out there who are just wasting oxygen than there are seekers of anything more than an easy high. It doesn't matter if they get their high from drugs, TV, sports, or food. For them it's just bread and circuses.

Ooohhh. I didn't realize I was carrying so much negativity this morning. Must be the rain.


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Pandemoon]
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Pandemoon said:
grati said:
Tripping made me realize that people around me are very stupid :shrug: I enjoy being alone more than before.


I feel similar. Most people are egoistic, selfish and narrow minded.

But now the more so I enjoy meeting open-minded people. :thumbup:

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This. Every day I hear about stupid football scores and what they saw on TV (nothing important). Everybody is so stupid it's laughable. Girls text me a lot of fb/insta and I'm getting bored of them in 2,3 messages only :shrug: I rarely meet interesting people.


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Edited by grati (01/08/19 10:48 AM)

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Tripping is temporary and won't 'make' you a better person.  Like all things it's a tool.  I've seen people that have tripped that still have issues or are dead from OD'ing on something else.

You either continue to walk the path, or you don't.  Lot's of folks get sidetracked.


Ehhh I’m not talking about tripping in general, just mushrooms.
I believe that with certain use, intentions, they can very well make you a better person.
I can agree that it’s not for everyone, or does it to everyone, I think most people on this category knows who I’m talking about. But as for me, I’m proof that it does.


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: Astonish]
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I posted something similar a few months back.

If used correctly I believe they can bring out the best in you..here is my post.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25512080/page/1

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: vodkapants]
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vodkapants said:
I now have 3 trips under my belt: a level 2, 3, and 4.  The one theme that I came across was intense love for my fellow humans. It is rather odd because I have become quite the misanthrope over the years, so it does make me feel like deep down I have that in me. I guess my question is this: after multiple trips, do you feel shrooms have made you a better person? More empathetic? Or do you feel the deep knowledge you have attainted makes you feel more distant from people when you aren’t on a trip?


No it doesn't make you "better".  It makes you function better though in many useful ways.  "Better" is only an ego thing.  :shrug:


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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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If we define “better” in terms of being kinder, more mature, more genuine and supportive to one’s fellow man, it’s questionable. They do seem to help some people along such lines but with others they make no difference.

They allow for a type of metacognition (ability to think about thinking) that may help receptive individuals put their lives and relationships in a broader, less egotistical context.

Misanthropy is often an expression of dented ego in the face of the world not conforming to ideals and expectations. Implicit in it is often a sense of superiority. Wisdom is taking life, imperfect as it is, and adapting to it and deriving one’s own sense of meaning (or surrendering meaning entirely). Misanthropy is a dead end road because it precludes brighter possibilities and those in such a headspace don’t know what they’re missing.

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Re: Does tripping make you a better person? [Re: CountHTML]
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Okay well it’s all subjective and varies person to person.
But you can’t say it does not “make” you a better person. That’s speaking to broadly.
Maybe it didn’t do much for you, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t for the next.
People who use them to get fucked up won’t see much of an improvement.
But someone using them for ontological & spiritual edification, will see a dramatic assimilation in moralistic values and self understanding.


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