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OfflineViaggio
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Love makes me feel pathetic.
    #2572325 - 04/17/04 09:36 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe I need to rant about my romantic issues for once.  I have what I think is a problem.  I associate all of my happiness with a woman.  Guess what happens when we're not together?  I mope.  I miss.  I ache.  I feel so lame and pathetic.  I know, I know...it's all a part of the love package, right?  Well, I despise it.  I feel weak, dependent.  If only I could spend every waking minute with her...but I can't (it's not realistic).  So I'm left with all of these minutes to myself.

It gets harder and harder everyday trying to distract myself (it's the only way I can find relief).  I wait, I watch my phone, I wait, I watch for her car, I keep waiting...and when I get a call or see she's back from work, I play it oh so cool (even though I could implode with joy).  How lame is that?

Sigh...I just can't get enough of her.  I'm addicted.  I'm in love.  I'm pathetic.  :frown:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572349 - 04/17/04 09:48 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Aw...I think your girl is a very lucky woman!  :heart:

I think those intense feelings will improve with time.  Do you think that you could try and not despise them so, and instead just accept them for what they are?  (And they're definately not a bad thing, in my opinion!) And in the meantime, why don't you invest in a new hobby to interest you and fill in the time when you both can't be together?  Or maybe while you're spending time apart, what about planning a romantic activity for the two of you to cherish while you're together?  Just some suggestions.  I know what you're going through, and it helps me to plan and arrange something special for my husband when we can't be together.  Like a special, romantic surprise or something.  I've also taken up quite a few new hobbies to supplement the time apart. 

I hope I helped a little bit.  :smile:

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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572427 - 04/17/04 10:14 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Man, don't complain! I have only felt those feelings once. It only lasted a few weeks, and then the girl screwed me over. Be happy, because these feelings mean you are in LOVE, which is awesome! However, you will learn with time how to control them. Love on  :heart: :loveeyes: :beer:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572608 - 04/17/04 11:31 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

:smile:!

Sounds like a fun place to be! Hush up, you know you enjoy every last moment of it.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572611 - 04/17/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

you...lucky...bastard :smirk:  I'd give just about anything to be in your shoes at the moment.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572659 - 04/17/04 11:56 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Also consider looking at stuff which works for people who just lost a relationship:
develop yourself. Progress in your life and this will make you even better for the one you love. You're showing great things with the way you feel about her - and it will be even better for both of you if you're stronger, kinder and wiser than you are now.
(Not that you're not these things, but there's always room for growth, right?)

And continue to be thankful -- taking great love for granted is a horrible mistake.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2572720 - 04/18/04 12:25 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

You are lucky. I am incapable of being in love. Stupid brain.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: ]
    #2573498 - 04/18/04 09:59 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, everyone.  You all had really good points...wow, support group central is really helpful  :yesnod:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: DannyT]
    #2573575 - 04/18/04 10:33 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

DannyT said:
you...lucky...bastard :smirk:  I'd give just about anything to be in your shoes at the moment.




same here.  Just enjoy it.  Love is pathetic, but in such a beautiful way.  Oh the precious feeling of love *sigh*


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2598539 - 04/24/04 04:29 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

this post hurts :sad:
sorry i cant help in some way..im glad you feel that deeply for some one


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2601510 - 04/25/04 03:12 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

it's that uncomfortable and helpless feeling that we're all addicted to in one way or another.

i hate the feeling too, but yet i seek out the very situations that will create that feeling. like the one i'm in now.

you know, it may take you down a few notches feeling dependant, but on the other hand it shows that you are in love, like the others said. your mate is completing that part of you that needs completion.

bask in the joy of what you are feeling, and be glad that there is reciprocation.

feeling that way about someone who doesn't feel similarly for you is a rough place to be, trust me.

peace,
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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2601619 - 04/25/04 04:08 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

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Edited by Spooge (11/18/12 11:24 AM)


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Spooge]
    #2601652 - 04/25/04 04:24 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

entity, it sucks eh?

i am exactly the same way. it's like this division that can never be healed.

we show our true love and we are robbed of the recipients.

we mask our desire for love, and the recipients are abound.

ah well.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: tezcatlipoca]
    #2601748 - 04/25/04 05:11 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Well put. Yes it does suck. But females are funny creatures, so I guess it has to be done.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Spooge]
    #2602894 - 04/25/04 10:35 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

feeling that way about someone who doesn't feel similarly for you is a rough place to be, trust me.

I'm in that place now. We sleep together and all sorts of other couple activities, but 6 weeks in, I assumed it was safe to tell her. Eh..."I love yous" don't always come at the same time I guess.

So I've been in this place for a little while and it's been a little rough. But I think the insecurity was a result of my dwelling...of wanting more (from her). Once I recognized this, I was able to calm down a bit and find other sources of happiness (such as hobbies).

We're still seeing each other (and sleeping together) every single day, but now...well, now I'm not wearing my blinders. Y'know those things? Blinders: they make the woman seem like an angel or princess...I love that perspective! But I see it fading. I no longer revolve my life around her. The intensity feels like it's slowing down, and that special air that lifted me from my heels where ever I walked is sinking.

Blah. To be continued?


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2605299 - 04/26/04 03:41 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I've decided adopt this thread as a way to vent about the romance bullshit I deal with. All comments are welcome.

She can be such a jealous person. And her anxiety causes some paranoid train of thoughts. She doesn't seem as emotionally mature as I hoped (she can act a bit crazy). She has trouble telling me things she thinks I don't want to hear. If she does open up, it's layered with thick coats of sugar...it's a real task trying to interpret her. She's afraid of commitment. It seems like "I don't know" is her favorite thing to say. I really don't like these traits.

Now I wonder...should I cut my losses and dettach myself? The limbo is hurting me and I feel my defense mechanisms activating.

"Go with the flow" is the reply I expect from most of you guys but...there's so much tension now. Sweet and sour, right? It's hard...I remember 3 months ago when I was so comfortable caring only about myself. In a way, I guess this issue is still only about myself.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2606227 - 04/27/04 12:03 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Well, looks like the first problem you had has ceased to exist. No girl is going to be perfect, you had some really high expectations for this girl and now that she isnt living up to your fantasy, you feel disapointed.
I dont think i know one girl who isnt a little crazy in fact you would probably get bored if she werent. You were right, I think you should hold out for a little while, give her a chance to be a real person, not your idea of perfection. I wish you the best, and I do hope you give it a little time, she could be a really great girl, besides its not always easy to open up at the beginning of a relationship, and there may be really valid reasons for her not wanting to commit right away. anyway
lots of love
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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: waterbug]
    #2606679 - 04/27/04 01:44 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

Good advice, Waterbug.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: waterbug]
    #2607226 - 04/27/04 03:58 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

You made some great points, waterbug.  Thanks :smile:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2607287 - 04/27/04 04:16 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

sometimes that extra effort you put into the relationship pays off. i know what it's like to have to try and deal with the shyness of a girl. sometimes it almost seems like their apprehension is a reflection of the way they feel about you.

usually, that isn't the case.

like waterbug said, things are going to take time. she will learn to open up to you and she'll learn to be comfortable. her shyness around you can also be seen in another positive light. that is, she's clearly worried about the way she appears to you. in other words, she must like you enough to worry about herself and try to censor herself. i don't know if that makes any sense, but can you remember having a big crush on a girl in the past? you know how you begin to worry about how you appear, and how you sound, and this and that. well, i know i'm certainly like that (however silly it may seem.) she's going through the same thing. she wants you to like her, and she's afraid of scaring you away.

give it some time. don't try to force her to open up -- she must do that on her own. however, you should make her want to change. don't openly encourage her, but rather, entice her into wanting to open up to you.

and whether or not you want to admit it, you are clearly attached to this girl! which is not a bad thing. you are concerned about the way the relationship is going, and i think you really like this girl. you're worried about staying in the relationship because even though you like this girl, you have learned over the years that tearing yourself apart because of a girl will get you nowhere. am i right? at this stage in the game, i think you should just try to turn off the brain. i know it's incredibly hard to do. i know i wish i could do it effectively, but you need to. show her that you care for her regardless of how she may come across and that it's okay to be herself.

i hope this made some sense. i wish i could follow my own advice. i'm currently ripping my own hair out over a girl these days too.

good luck, and

peace,
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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2608308 - 04/27/04 07:53 PM (19 years, 9 months ago)

I know exactly what you're feeling man. I hated it, and to solve it I became extremely anti social and introverted, never talked to anyone, just sat around for months hoping it would pass, trying to degrade her and rid her in my mind until the feeling left

It finally did. Being subjected to that kind of weakness is sickening at best

Though you may change your stance, a few kind words would never change the fact that it was a horrible feeling for me. I don't even care about control; it's just consciously sickening to desire for another human being. Change the mindset, forget her and continue on

This may not work for everyone, however. It required constant vigilance of the mind and willpower of thoughts, else I would slip back hopelessly into that void


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: tezcatlipoca]
    #2611176 - 04/28/04 11:43 AM (19 years, 9 months ago)

tez, I know, I know...time.  Can do.

Ravus, I'm glad you understand the feeling of desire/dependence for/on another human being.  It can be so sickening...and beautiful (which is why I submit to the trials).

Update: Things are much better and calmer :smile:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2615036 - 04/29/04 04:26 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I left her bed just 15 minutes ago...ugh...5 in the morning and I find myself home and on this message board. I always sleep a her place, but I had to leave. There are things about her personality that are beginning to bother me more. Yeah, she asked me to come back to bed, but I knew that I shouldn't.

Garbage in no particular order:

1. Despite her age (29), she can be very immature. Of course we all have our moments, but she has a few more which places a question mark on her level. She can be so ugly when talking about people...so quick to judge...never considers the other perspectives.

2. Her anxiety...when she's stressed, she blows things out of proportion in her mind and follows them up with paranoid trains of thought. She worries so much too. And gets mad so easily.

3. She's afraid to commit, but gets so mad and jealous. Then she makes attempts to control me. Why should I subject myself to that? I love her, and she's afraid to even admit she cares about me...I think that fear links to the maturity issue.

I felt bad for leaving her alone. She's probably crying herself to sleep. Maybe I'm an ass...I couldn't sleep in bed with her mad at me. And the things listed above were keeping me awake...maybe I left for attention?


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2615095 - 04/29/04 05:26 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

viaggio said:
I left her bed just 15 minutes ago...ugh...5 in the morning and I find myself home and on this message board. I always sleep a her place, but I had to leave. There are things about her personality that are beginning to bother me more. Yeah, she asked me to come back to bed, but I knew that I shouldn't.

Garbage in no particular order:

1. Despite her age (29), she can be very immature. Of course we all have our moments, but she has a few more which places a question mark on her level. She can be so ugly when talking about people...so quick to judge...never considers the other perspectives.

2. Her anxiety...when she's stressed, she blows things out of proportion in her mind and follows them up with paranoid trains of thought. She worries so much too. And gets mad so easily.

3. She's afraid to commit, but gets so mad and jealous. Then she makes attempts to control me. Why should I subject myself to that? I love her, and she's afraid to even admit she cares about me...I think that fear links to the maturity issue.

I felt bad for leaving her alone. She's probably crying herself to sleep. Maybe I'm an ass...I couldn't sleep in bed with her mad at me. And the things listed above were keeping me awake...maybe I left for attention?





I have to be honest. Those three things you mentioned sound alot like personality traits girls in my high school used to have. So it's possible that she *is* a little immature. (keep in mind, I don't know her...I'm just going off what you wrote)

A question: What does she usually get pissy about with you? It could be a sign of her just settling into the relationship...testing boundaries and stuff. I did alot of boundary-testing with my husband when we first got together three years ago. I never do it now though, because of the mutual respect for one another that we have and because, well, quite frankly I've grown up alot since then.

Is it possible that maybe she doesn't have alot of life-experience? I mean, she's 29 but maybe she just hasn't had to make any sacrifices or faced any challenges in her life.

It sounds like the both of you are trying to settle into this relationship and find a comfort zone. I wouldn't write her off just yet. Relationships are never gonna be perfect...but if you are more unhappy then happy when you are with her, maybe you should reassess the situation.


good luck and keep us posted


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2627726 - 05/02/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

If these traits annoy you now, it'd be wise to think more before going into a true long relationship with her.

Annoying personality traits usually only get more unbearable over time, and even start to overcome the good ones. A major reason why there is so many divorces, why people break up, why friends often end up ignoring each other, because as time goes on the other person, rather than getting better, starts to appear actually worse (even if they are really staying the same.)

If only beyond the passion and love of the moment, we could look 20 years into the future to see that person before marrying them


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Ravus]
    #2628721 - 05/02/04 05:53 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

I know what you mean, Ravus. Trouble is...I'm attached. Maybe I can learn to take the good with the bad. And the story continues...


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2638297 - 05/04/04 07:05 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)



Did her parents die when she was younger?


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: RuNE]
    #2638690 - 05/04/04 08:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Nope. They divorced when she was a teen though.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2639257 - 05/04/04 10:51 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like she cares about you, man, but I guess you know that. Some of us, like myself, can become controlled by worrying- waiting by the phone and refreshing the email every 5 minutes, bu this only leads to way too much frustration and potential resentment. This can only become worse when the person is actually overcontrolling in nature, otherwise it becomes absurd and you get over it and learn to trust her and deal with missing. It sounds like she's got you in a place where you are constantly worrying, and who knows she may feel bad about that, but she is not being mature. Just remember that you have control over yourself. I think its a better idea to speak frankly with her about some of the more persistent problems you are having with her- don't worry about criticizing her- if she cares about you, she'll take it. If not, you'll end up resenting her and that may destroy what could potentially be a good relationship, and will certainly make you feel more desperate.
Sorry if I sound like a shrink! I can understand where you're coming from though.
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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: nycomyco]
    #2639334 - 05/04/04 11:07 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

nycomyco, I like your suggestion.  I need to be more frank with her.  I try to avoid saying things I know will hurt her, so I sometimes feel like I'm walking on eggshells.  But no more  :thumbup:

Thanks :smile:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2649668 - 05/07/04 10:51 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Man, I'm hurtin'.  She's been a bit distant the past few days.  And her tone has changed.  Any phonecalls between us start with me. She doesn't have me over everynight like she used to.  When I questioned why things seem different, she answerd that she's a busy woman and the initial excitement of being with someone new has worn down and it's time for "healthy space."  I guess I understand, but it's terrible for me.  Being with her has been the higlight of my days.  So now...I feel hurt.  I need something to ditract/dettach me from this pain (besides sleep).  :frown:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2649714 - 05/07/04 11:14 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

It sounds like she has taken all your attention for granted.  I have a suggestion.  This will be hard, but stop calling her.  Take control of this situation.  If she's pulling away from you, do the same damn thing.  One of two things will happen:

1.) She'll realize that you aren't clamoring at her heels and kissing her ass anymore.  She'll be driven to try and exert her position in your life again and then all will be as it was. 

or

2.) The two of you will simply drift apart by a mutual silence. 

I'm guessing that #1 is more likely, since girls feel incredibly threatened when they think a guy has stopped worshipping/caring for them.  It's fucked up, isn't it?  How a girl expects you to follow her around salivating after her and then she orders you to heel whenever she feels like it.  I get really disappointed in my gender when I hear stuff like this. 

To tell the truth man, this doesn't sound like a good relationship to me.  I've been following this thread for awhile, and I know that you care deeply for her, but look what she is doing.  Sounds like she's yanking your strings, making you jump to please whatever whim she has.  It doesn't seem like a relationship of equal partnership to me and even more, it doesn't seem like you are that happy with it.  To me, it seems like you care for the girl, just not the relationship you have with her. 

I think that she is treating you VERY unfairly, and I think she might be playing female-games with your head. (and heart)

So like I said, maybe you should ease off a bit and give her what she wants.  Don't call her.  It will be hard, but DON'T give in.  Get a new hobby or something, and keep busy and it will be easier to resist giving her a call.  Just back off, and see what happens. 

Good luck!  :heart:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: MOTH]
    #2649844 - 05/07/04 12:07 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, Ellemysh. Everything you said makes a lot of sense so I'm taking your advice.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2649911 - 05/07/04 12:23 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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...but 6 weeks in, I assumed it was safe to tell her. Eh..."I love yous" don't always come at the same time I guess.




so she didn't say it back? that's imo a good thing in a way, i mean sure it would've been great if she fells the same way but if she dosn't at least she didn't lie. the first time a girl ever told me she loved me i still didn't even know what love was and sure didn't love her,  liked her a whole lot but not love. anyway one day over the phone i say  bye and she says i love you, i just didn't want to hurt her feelings so i said it back, after that it was just something we said to each other, i never did get a chance to fall in love with her and never did i just always said it because it was somewhat expected, ya know. the point of this thread has changed but that part just stuck out to me :stoned:


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: Viaggio]
    #2654164 - 05/08/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Ellemysh's got it right. I dealt with a girl who did that hot-cold back and forth BS for about a year. If it's coming to the point where you don't know what to expect from her, you need to start treating her like she's treating you, like Ellemysh said. Believe me, you'll find someone who will treat you better and then you'll realize how ridiculous it was. You sound like the kind of guy who can love a lot, so don't waste it. It's tough, but you'll get over her if you know you should.


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Re: Love makes me feel pathetic. [Re: nycomyco]
    #2654556 - 05/08/04 07:08 PM (19 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, nycomyco, she's back and forth.  It's a little stressful.  She called me last night to come over and was more affectionate than she's been in a while.  Back and forth...wheee  :shake:

All I can do is go with the flow, be frank, and take her off this pedestal I put her on.  She's actually damn lucky to have someone like me (yes, ladies...I'm quite the gem).  :flowers:


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