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Fucked up visions on psychedelics
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So Im taking a break from psychs and one of the reasons why is because of the traumatic shit Ive seen on them.

So LSD is a pretty visionary substance, I call it imagination land because you have full control of your imagination. But just be careful what you imagine.

Bufotenine is much stronger in the visionary aspect as you can SEE what you're thinking right in front of your closed eyes. But with great power comes great responsibility.

Since most of us are driven by pleasure, its pretty easy to just imagine a bunch of sexual shit. On bufo, you can literally create porn in real-time of any girl. Now this may seem great at first glance, but the mind has a tendency to 'slip'.

So if you think of something fucked up, you will SEE it. When your mind is in the sexual space, its very vulnerable to this. That hot chick that you were banging in your mind can change into a  family member, a dude, a child, at any point in time. Now for someone who is not a gay incest pedophile, this is not cool.

My theories on why this happens.
1. These are things people fear and are immoral. So these 'slips' are driven by fear and your mind just wants to stimulate the amygdala. 

2. Your ego has an ideal version of yourself, the 'best' version of yourself. Then there's the 'worst' version of yourself, the complete opposite of what you want to be, the anti ego. But psychedelics dissolve boundaries and the anti ego and the ego just combine.

Whenever the fucked up visions happen, it ruins my entire week/month/ maybe even year for all I know. And then there's the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" philosophy. That definitely doesn't apply to this. Thats like chopping a finger off and expecting it to grow back.

So this is just a warning for yall, be careful out there.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: CapnCook]
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the bufo, huh? smoking toad nice does it get 1 paranoid though like some1 gonna steal their flies?


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when I did that I was good at it, when did something else I was good at it
it was doing it all that I could never get straight fucking nazis in the way
not having parents had nothing to do with it

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: dickydonk]
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dickydonk said:
the bufo, huh? smoking toad nice does it get 1 paranoid though like some1 gonna steal their flies?



na actually Ive found it to reduce paranoia with cannabis in low doses. It turns the foggy weed high into a euphoric buzz. I usually get paranoid on weed without it.


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Edited by CapnCook (12/30/18 12:24 AM)

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: dickydonk]
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uh, the whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" doesn't mean that only in a physical sense... its more often than not meant to be in a mental/spiritual sense. :lol:

so you saw fucked up shit. so what. you're still alive, you still can do whatever the hell you want. you didn't lose your finger, no family members or children were hurt in the process, you basically just had a minor nightmare. get over it, stop being a wimp. you're a grown man, not a child crying over monsters under the bed. people see worse things on the internet every day and do just fine, for crying out loud! =p

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Psion]
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Psion said:
you didn't lose your finger.




I lost my mind


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: CapnCook]
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Ya bro I got visual snow from all the acid I did, fucking sucks. I also suffered HPPD for quite some time. Hang in there!


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Popperseed]
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there so many types of flowers stop smoking the cheap shit that makes you foggy. sativa all day indica at night


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when I did that I was good at it, when did something else I was good at it
it was doing it all that I could never get straight fucking nazis in the way
not having parents had nothing to do with it

donate:dafunk

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Popperseed] * 1
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er, by visual snow, do you mean the little faint multicolor dots that resemble tv static? if so, that's something i've always had. it's sorta like tinnitus, it's just something many people don't notice, and if you do, is easily ignored for most (but not all) people. so i wouldn't say LSD caused it, just made you aware of its existence. :x

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Psion]
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Now for someone who is not a gay incest pedophile, this is not cool.

This is so confusing,  out of beyond left field.  Maybe some projection going on?


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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How about taking a break also from being obsessed with psychs? Seriously. It's seriously cringe-inducing to see a human being publicly humiliate himself to this extent, and you're not even tripping anymore.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 2
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It's called "get the fuck over it" syndrome.

Make a salad already.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Psion]
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Psion said:
uh, the whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" doesn't mean that only in a physical sense... its more often than not meant to be in a mental/spiritual sense. :lol:

so you saw fucked up shit. so what. you're still alive, you still can do whatever the hell you want. you didn't lose your finger, no family members or children were hurt in the process, you basically just had a minor nightmare. get over it, stop being a wimp. you're a grown man, not a child crying over monsters under the bed. people see worse things on the internet every day and do just fine, for crying out loud! =p



So how would you explain ptsd, emotional abuse victems, sexual abuse victems, etc etc. By this logic since they're not physically damaged from the trauma they should be stronger.

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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PsyduckMonkey said:
How about taking a break also from being obsessed with psychs? Seriously. It's seriously cringe-inducing to see a human being publicly humiliate himself to this extent, and you're not even tripping anymore.



cuz this shit still affects me even when Im sober.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Psion said:
uh, the whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" doesn't mean that only in a physical sense... its more often than not meant to be in a mental/spiritual sense. :lol:

so you saw fucked up shit. so what. you're still alive, you still can do whatever the hell you want. you didn't lose your finger, no family members or children were hurt in the process, you basically just had a minor nightmare. get over it, stop being a wimp. you're a grown man, not a child crying over monsters under the bed. people see worse things on the internet every day and do just fine, for crying out loud! =p



So how would you explain ptsd, emotional abuse victems, sexual abuse victems, etc etc. By this logic since they're not physically damaged from the trauma they should be stronger.



These types of abuse definitely do make one stronger. They can also make someone completely broken and live a life that is not considered living. Going through something like this isnt just brushed off. It sticks with you and idc what anybody says it defines you in a way. You've grown through these bad experiences and they do affect your life and the way you live it.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Straight Mush]
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I guess that's true to some extent, if you can overcome it, but it seems like more people than not don't and instead it becomes baggage they always carry with them and project onto others.

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: CapnCook] * 1
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CapnCook said:
My theories on why this happens.
1. These are things people fear and are immoral. So these 'slips' are driven by fear and your mind just wants to stimulate the amygdala. 

2. Your ego has an ideal version of yourself, the 'best' version of yourself. Then there's the 'worst' version of yourself, the complete opposite of what you want to be, the anti ego. But psychedelics dissolve boundaries and the anti ego and the ego just combine.

Whenever the fucked up visions happen, it ruins my entire week/month/ maybe even year for all I know. And then there's the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" philosophy. That definitely doesn't apply to this. Thats like chopping a finger off and expecting it to grow back.

So this is just a warning for yall, be careful out there.




No offense dude, but you really gotta get beyond the ego domain to get free. Otherwise you're still a slave. :shrug:

Keep on with your cold turkey time though, it works.  Been there, done that.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Psion said:
uh, the whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" doesn't mean that only in a physical sense... its more often than not meant to be in a mental/spiritual sense. :lol:

so you saw fucked up shit. so what. you're still alive, you still can do whatever the hell you want. you didn't lose your finger, no family members or children were hurt in the process, you basically just had a minor nightmare. get over it, stop being a wimp. you're a grown man, not a child crying over monsters under the bed. people see worse things on the internet every day and do just fine, for crying out loud! =p



So how would you explain ptsd, emotional abuse victims, sexual abuse victims, etc etc. By this logic since they're not physically damaged from the trauma they should be stronger.



those are examples of mental abuse... which is most definitely a type of trauma that matters. this... is not mental abuse. this is the equivalent of a kid seeing goatse for the first time and having their internet cherry popped. (only VR instead of 2D, but still.)

all he had was the equivalent of a waking nightmare. hell, even i've had dreams on rare occasions of fucking my brother, and i think he looks gross. (sorry bro) this isn't exactly abnormal either... its incredibly common for people to have dreams of stuff they'd never even want to try in reality.

the real issue is capn is trying to find miracle cures for something that takes time and effort to achieve. just like how miracle-gro can't actually make a plant grow instantly, psychedelics can't take an immature psyche and make you confident and all grown up overnight. now, they can take a damaged mature psyche and fix it on occasion, but that's not the issue here. it's just a youngin trying to grow up and trying to lay blame on everything but himself when he doesn't get the results he wanted.

it's perfectly fine to want to have your shit together, to know what you want and how to get it. but that's something you just have to work at without psychedelics. at best they may help you gain a direction to head in, but they aren't going to cart you there. that's something only you can do.

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: Psion]
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Psion said:
all he had was the equivalent of a waking nightmare. hell, even i've had dreams on rare occasions of fucking my brother, and i think he looks gross. (sorry bro) this isn't exactly abnormal either... its incredibly common for people to have dreams of stuff they'd never even want to try in reality.



Well ur gay so thats not as bad...

And dreams are completely different than bad imagination tripping. Cuz this shit gets imprinted in your mind and really has an impact.


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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: CapnCook]
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no more so than any other creepy/gross/weird/annoying thing does. only if you let it.

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Re: Fucked up visions on psychedelics [Re: CapnCook] * 2
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Consider you mind a bar on a bench press.  These thoughts are little 5 pound weights.  Deal with it.  Or don’t and have your whole life ruined because you can’t stop mind fucking people you don’t want to.  Come on man, is this really a big issue or are you just making it a big issue.

Go outside and get some air dude, really think over the actual magnitude of this issue.  Better sooner than later because life doesn’t wait to throw the next batch of shit directly at your forehead..


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