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Jar question
    #2570304 - 04/17/04 06:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Can the jars used for the pf tek(1/2 pints)be used for white millet?
The holes are already there-but the teks for wbs say the holes have to be 1/4"-3/8",tyvek under lid,polyfill in holes,2 coffee filters on top and then put your aluminum foil on-can you get by with just useing the standard 1/2 pints with the 4 small holes-I have a good quality dust mask material to use for the filter,and I know that those larger holes are for better gas exchange-I just dont want to spend anymore cash unless its mandatory to do so -understand?

Hell I have confused myself-too early this morning .
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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570312 - 04/17/04 07:00 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think the only problem with 1/2 pints is they are so damm small. Plus, you want to shake the jars..so with 1/2 pints you would have to fill them only slightly over half way...


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Re: Jar question [Re: DieCommie]
    #2570327 - 04/17/04 07:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Not worth the time and effort then?


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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570414 - 04/17/04 09:06 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it still works, but you'll have smaller shrooms and fewer flushes... move up to quarts an do casings and you'll be golden


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Re: Jar question [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2570477 - 04/17/04 10:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"smaller shrooms and fewer flushes" ??

substrate is substrate...i don't think it matters what size container it's grown in, as long as it's cased in a larger pan it's all the same, isn't it?


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Re: Jar question [Re: xwave3000]
    #2570502 - 04/17/04 10:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My thoughts exactly. :confused:


Just more work involved.


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Re: Jar question [Re: xwave3000]
    #2570505 - 04/17/04 10:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

xwave3000 think about what your saying. to put it simply

jar (A) 500ml capacity, 400ml of food for the mycelium

jar (b) 946ml capacity, 846ml of food for the mycelium

left some room for shaking

which do you think is going to produce the most mushrooms after casing

:mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:    correct! jar (b)

why because the mycelium has consumed just over twice the nutriants the half pint has !!

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Re: Jar question [Re: NoG]
    #2570511 - 04/17/04 10:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

doesnt 2 1/2 pints equal a pint?
doesnt 2 pints equal a quart?

If you put in 3cc of spore solution in a quart of millet-
you put in 1 cc per 1/2 pint=4cc per quart.

Smaller scale,quicker colonizing,but a quart is a quart no matter if its broke down into 1/2 pints,correct?

Thats what I'm getting at.


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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570519 - 04/17/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:mushroom2: :mushroom2:Shroom On :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Jar question [Re: NoG]
    #2570529 - 04/17/04 11:05 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Basically what doc34 said...it's the same thing if you use 24 half pints or 6 quart jars. If the guy already has the supplies that do the job, why go out and buy more supplies that do the same thing. Will he feel more like a man if he uses quart jars?


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Re: Jar question [Re: xwave3000]
    #2570565 - 04/17/04 11:21 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

of course if in the end you use the same ammount of spawn your going to get the same amount of shrooms

this has nothing to do with being a man xwave3000 where did this come from? lol...


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Re: Jar question [Re: NoG]
    #2570579 - 04/17/04 11:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"of course if in the end you use the same ammount of spawn your going to get the same amount of shrooms"

Thats what I was trying to say-I just dont see the benefit of spending another 10-15 bucks on quarts when I have 48 1/2 pints.Plus it takes way longer for a quart to fully colonize than it does a 1/2 pint= quicker shroomies,correct?


I know its more work but is that the only "CON" to it?


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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570604 - 04/17/04 11:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The holes are already there-but the teks for wbs say the holes have to be 1/4"-3/8",tyvek under lid,polyfill in holes,2 coffee filters on top and then put your aluminum foil on-can you get by with just useing the standard 1/2 pints with the 4 small holes?


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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570886 - 04/17/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nog: I was being sarcastic...just seems like some people suggest using quart jars just because a lot of the more advanced teks tell them to.

doc48: if you just have 4 holes on a half pint jar, and cover with a filter disk you'll be fine.


Edited by xwave3000 (04/17/04 02:36 PM)


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Re: Jar question [Re: xwave3000]
    #2570892 - 04/17/04 01:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thats what I wanted to hear! :thumbup:


Thanks. :cool:


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Re: Jar question [Re: NoG]
    #2570924 - 04/17/04 02:07 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

NoG
think about what your saying. to put it simply

jar (B)946ml capacity,= 846ml of food divided into 1/2 pint jars.

Its all the same just more effort involved.

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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570941 - 04/17/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

doesnt 2 1/2 pints equal a pint? Yes
doesnt 2 pints equal a quart? Yes

If you put in 3cc of spore solution in a quart of millet-
you put in 1 cc per 1/2 pint=4cc per quart. No, Yes you can use 1cc per 1/2 pint but you never need to go over 2 cc for a quart. With the half pint it's gonna be next to impossiable to shake the jar if it has enough substrate to be worth anything. You want to be able to shake the jars with grains bigtime.

Smaller scale,quicker colonizing,but a quart is a quart no matter if its broke down into 1/2 pints,correct? Without shaking you will not get faster colonizing even if the jar is much smaller.
This jars is 6 days from injection. There was just bairly enough room to shake the jar but as you can see there was enough.




4 weeks from multispore injection. Being able to shake the jars does make all the difference in the world.


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Re: Jar question [Re: Magash]
    #2570975 - 04/17/04 02:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"If you put in 3cc of spore solution in a quart of millet-
you put in 1 cc per 1/2 pint=4cc per quart. No, Yes you can use 1cc per 1/2 pint but you never need to go over 2 cc for a quart. With the half pint it's gonna be next to impossiable to shake the jar if it has enough substrate to be worth anything. You want to be able to shake the jars with grains bigtime. "


I was using that as an example MaGash to show that you will end up with more solution in the 1/2 pints as compared to a quart.

"Yes you can use 1cc per 1/2 pint"


Yes you can put"3cc of spore solution in a quart ".

There are 4-1/2 pints in a quart

Resulting in quicker colonization

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Re: Jar question [Re: doc34]
    #2570984 - 04/17/04 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well your jars should be done in less then 6 days. I'm looking foward to the pics.


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Re: Jar question [Re: Magash]
    #2570985 - 04/17/04 02:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh I see the shaking will be somewhat harder in a smaller jar!

no problem I got ya now! :thumbup: :cool:


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