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 Pastywhyte 
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Yeah that was another thing I noticed about this, it made millet easier. Like millet for dummies, good way to get accustomed to it, especially for new folks. But I still can't get over how well PE did with it. Very cool.
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 ichugwindex
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george castanza said:
Or perhaps maybe cut back a little on the windex, I hear the colored varieties can be extremely potent.
But I cant bring myself to do transfers unless  I chug at least 2 spray bottles worth
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hamloaf
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Leftfield420 said:
Would this work with cyans?
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Pastywhyte said:
Yes. Might want to top fruit and case with peat but it would indeed work.
Perhaps. You know what would greatly help in the dept. of Panaeolus cult. with these cakes? Replacing up to half of the seed with horse manure. Instead of a 3-2-1. Would be more like a 1.5+1.5-2-1 (manure/seed/water/vermiculite) type of deal. Doesn't roll off the tongue as well, but... With the manure addition, you would probably have to reconfigure, and adjust to obtain proper moisture content. I think casing with peat, and top fruiting are good suggestions.
I am going to give this a try. Been wanting to do some cakes lately, anyway, and this tek is a nice break from the monotony of standard-average BRF cakes. I will probably supplement these cakes a little bit with some wheat bran, gypsum, and maybe some spent coffee grounds (if I can source them), and use WBS instead of millet.
I have a few Panaeolus varieties about to go to LC that would be good for the testing of these cakes with the supplementation of manure. I also have a nice APE clone culture from NumeroEno that's almost ready to noc some LC that I think would be fun to feature on these cakes, as well. Tell Kramer that he has a pretty cool take on cakes, george. Thanks for posting.
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george castanza
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 Re: Kramer Cakes  [Re: hamloaf]
#24337976 - 05/21/17 12:18 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said:
 
Very nice fruits sir.
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Hamington Loafburg said:
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Leftfield420 said:
Would this work with cyans?
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Pastywhyte said:
Yes. Might want to top fruit and case with peat but it would indeed work.
Perhaps. You know what would greatly help in the dept. of Panaeolus cult. with these cakes? Replacing up to half of the seed with horse manure. Instead of a 3-2-1. Would be more like a 1.5+1.5-2-1 (manure/seed/water/vermiculite) type of deal. Doesn't roll off the tongue as well, but... With the manure addition, you would probably have to reconfigure, and adjust to obtain proper moisture content. I think casing with peat, and top fruiting are good suggestions.
I am going to give this a try. Been wanting to do some cakes lately, anyway, and this tek is a nice break from the monotony of standard-average BRF cakes. I will probably supplement these cakes a little bit with some wheat bran, gypsum, and maybe some spent coffee grounds (if I can source them), and use WBS instead of millet.
I have a few Panaeolus varieties about to go to LC that would be good for the testing of these cakes with the supplementation of manure. I also have a nice APE clone culture from NumeroEno that's almost ready to noc some LC that I think would be fun to feature on these cakes, as well. Tell Kramer that he has a pretty cool take on cakes, george. Thanks for posting.
Kramer and I have probably fruited out 18-20 different cubes with this sub, couldn't get pf classic(Ms) to fruit and even tried a couple times, that was the only one that failed. All others seemed to love it.
When using these cakes for batch testing I recommend that you make your mix a little on the dry side and use a full cc of inoculant, you can try to make them drier and use more innoculant for faster colonization, but that always seems to leave the top of the cake too dry to colonize.
These are great for batch testing and they also make great spawn.
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eatyualive
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ah the good old millet!  remember major millet? haha brings back memories. cool idea.
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george castanza
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Ok, so I was using three year old syringes for this last attempt and it looked like all the spores had clumped up in the tip of the cap on the syringe of tc I used, I used the syringe anyway because I really love working with tc, but alas not one jar colonized 
It's all good tho because I was looking through my myco supplies the other day and I have a few tc prints so I'll make some syringes at some point and get some tc working eventually.
I also did a few jars of pe and they colonized just fine, I took ten Kramer Cakes of pe and spawned them out onto 5 quarts of horse manure and verm, mixed at about 60% verm 40% manure.
This is what it looks like today:
I was going to harvest today but there was so much growth on all the secondary pins (the more regular looking mushrooms and the dark round balls) that I figured I would give it another day or two in order to let them mature a little more, not to mention the bigger blobs are also still growing. 
When I first birthed this bulk tray I was a little worried that it would contaminate because the color seemed a little grey to me, and as it was pinning I kept thinking that it looked like trich setting in, but every time it turned out to be a blueing of the substrate or mushrooms themselves.
This is my first attempt in quite a long while and I'm not at all ashamed to admit I'm quite pleased with the results thus far.
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hamloaf
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Kramer is happy for you, george.
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george castanza
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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: hamloaf]
#24503290 - 07/23/17 04:31 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here are a few more pictures taken today, just before harvest.
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george castanza
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Re: Kramer Cakes [Re: hamloaf]
#24518493 - 07/30/17 04:09 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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And almost exactly one week later the second flush is harvested.
Here is a picture of the second flush, I was pleased to see almost no mutation on these bad boys.
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Pastywhyte
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Registered: 09/15/12
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Nice caps, sexy peen 
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eatyualive
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Nice fruit George!
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george castanza
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Pastywhyte said:
Nice caps, sexy peen
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Nice fruit George!
Thanks guys. The approval of my peers does mean a lot to me.
After the second flush was harvested I waited about twenty hours or so for the mycilium to heal itself and then poured a half gallon of water on to substrate as I noticed it was drying a bit towards the end of the flush. About eighteen hours later I poured the water off back into the half gallon container and noticed the substrate took on just under a quart, so it was dry indeed.
Duringthe first flush I misted a lot, but never a lot all at once, my intention was to replace the moisture at the same rate it was leaving the sub.
There were already three pins on the second flush when I harvested the first, and the day after harvest there was a virtual explosion of pins on the substrate.
If you note the way the sub was pulling away from the sides of the tray, it was in perfect proportion from either side, this indicated to me the substrate is fully healthy and could go on to fruit many more flushes.
I'll keep everyone updated on the third flush, which I'm hoping to see some pins in the next few days.
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LizardWizard
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Soooo, yesterday, I made myself 2 KramerCakes (KC's from now on), but not with millet. I did not have millet on hand, so I used a mix of grains I never used before, namely red quinoa, black quinoa, round brown rice, long brown rice, and some whole oats. I mixed it all with the vermiculite and (blablabla... ) then put it on the stove on high until it was boiling, turned down heat to low, left for 1O mins, added some water as it was a bit dry by now, threw in a bowl, mixed again, added some verm, and filled up the jars, threw em in the sterilizer, vent, press build, vent, sterilizing cycle, turn off heat after about 2,5 hours, and voila, KC's.
So while I was sterilizing, threw out some grain jars that had gone horribly bad, like, fairly clean to very clean looking agar gone to 4 different kinds of mold in 1 jar, plus a bit of mycelium. Found out my lids had gone to shit, didn't make my jars watertight anymore, but I've been using my lids for quite a while, including the ones for the KC's I made, so I'm not sure how well this will go. Need to check all my lids but fuck it for now.
I have a bunch LC/agar hybrid project bottles, where I made VERY loose agar in a bottle, so the mycelium can grow on top of the liquid as well, now that is looking quite well, but I'm a bit lazy, so I'm not even going to test it on a plate. I'm just going to inoculate my KC's with them as a test.
To be tested are 2 LC's of KSSS, and 1 of an unknown variety, I think I inoculated it with pins and/or knots from a plate, but I don't remember which variety and I forgot to write it on the bottle. Could be Martinique, but could also be Ecuador, Argentina, and some other ones but less likely... We'll see what comes up! I'll be re-naming them the Mr. E. Stupidity variety for storage purposes, since they are mystery the result of stupidity 
And while I was writing all this, took a break to do it all, so voila, they have been inoculated!
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Avery3100
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Very kool tek will be attempting this soon
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MagicMan1
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Registered: 10/10/17
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WHOOP WHOOP FAM! I like the method you've got going in here. And I'm defiantly gonna grab some millet n whip up a tub! Hope to see you again at the gathering next year! I'll have some more tanks as well, YOU KNOWWW!
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