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InvisibleDirty Dave
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What really happened to Otto Warmbier
    #25700460 - 12/24/18 04:10 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

What happened to this kid is/ was pretty fucked off, but there seems to be 2 sides of the story.

One side says he was brutally tortured and was returned blind, deaf, and brain dead.

The other side says thats false and his returning symptoms are from attempted suicide.

Heres one link on that.

https://www.axios.com/otto-warmbier-north-korea-torture-death-09de0093-0412-448c-8216-670103f98646.html

For me, its really hard to say. Part of me says north korea is completely capable and willing and another part says its all propaganda bullshit caused and created by the US government.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Dirty Dave]
    #25700465 - 12/24/18 04:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

propaganda


kid broke a law in a very, very harsh society.  he fucked up, being an entitled little american brat thinking the consequences, if any, would be minimal.  he paid the price for his ignorance and greenness.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Tulipslave]
    #25700492 - 12/24/18 04:23 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, you are correct, but was he brutally fucked to death? I picture mini kim shoving pineapple up his ass.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Dirty Dave]
    #25700851 - 12/24/18 08:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

My guess is that it was an accident that occurred while torturing him in some way that involved oxygen deprivation. A suicide attempt might do the same thing, but what was the method used? And why give the botulism excuse first?


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Dirty Dave]
    #25700960 - 12/24/18 09:36 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Dirty Dave said:its all propaganda bullshit caused and created by the US government.



Part of me thinks it's all BS. When Obama was President, and even during the Election N. Korea was portrayed as this completely crazy Nuclear threat. As if they couldn't even be talked to directly.

Shortly after Trump gets elected North and South Korean Presidents literally held hands and skipped across each other's boarders like school girls. They had never even held a meeting before that, suddenly they're holding hands.

The Deep State includes the Media, CIA, Central Banks, and other Foreign Powers. They show us what they want us to see. When Trump says #FakeNews it's actually one of the most honest things he'll say. They're not telling us the truth unless it's beneficial to the State. We have a 'free media' but it's owned by huge Corporations. News that conflicts with their interests is twisted or not reported.

Notice how no one from FoxNews to MSNBC questions 9\11? They wouldn't dare suggest a False Flag. No one mentions Tower 7 but they pump out Ancient Aliens! There's this two party narrative they want to keep us on so we don't ask the real questions.

America is an Empire of Corporatism.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Magicman69]
    #25700970 - 12/24/18 09:44 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #25700977 - 12/24/18 09:49 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Who in the fuck goes to N korea, much less commits a crime in n korea?

Dude had a death wish


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #25700981 - 12/24/18 09:54 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Definately not one of his better decisions.  You would have thought there would be a sit down for clarification like, “this is where we are going, this is actually how they do things, reel in your behavior ‘this’ much etc”..

You would have thought he was stealing a mickey flag from disney land..:shrug:


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #25700988 - 12/24/18 10:00 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

I can believe that their nuclear program was motivated mostly by self defense and not trigger happy insanity. But it probably is also true that they do horrible things to their own people. You can see the fear in the eyes of ordinary people who pose for pictures with their dear leader.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: Dirty Dave]
    #25702144 - 12/25/18 03:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

Well the "evidence" the North Koreans used to say he tried to steal the poster is complete bullshit.  It's like a 240p video of a shape of a person.....it could be anybody.  So I think that was staged and they wanted to use Otto Warmbier as propaganda.  Did you watch the "confession" video?  It was so phony and it was so obvious that they wrote what he was supposed to say and do.  So it was either torture or an attempted suicide imo.  It's hard to say for sure which one it was.


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Re: What really happened to Otto Warmbier [Re: AmericanPsycho]
    #25702506 - 12/25/18 08:09 PM (2 years, 2 months ago)

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AmericanPsycho said:
Well the "evidence" the North Koreans used to say he tried to steal the poster is complete bullshit.  It's like a 240p video of a shape of a person.....it could be anybody.  So I think that was staged and they wanted to use Otto Warmbier as propaganda.  Did you watch the "confession" video?  It was so phony and it was so obvious that they wrote what he was supposed to say and do.  So it was either torture or an attempted suicide imo.  It's hard to say for sure which one it was.




I guess it really doesn't matter if he did or didn't steal it. He visited a regimen that is pretty ruthless, and (allegedly) got tortured as a result. Really should of thought twice about going to N korea i guess.

I mean jesus, its pretty common knowledge that they torture imprisoned citizens, much less an american prisoner, and will throw you away for pretty much no reason, why in the FUCK would someone visit a place like that?


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