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Buster_Brown
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LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows
#25695519 - 12/22/18 09:23 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyway, the next day I started a fire in that stove and immediately the flue caught fire (I could smell the acetone) and spent some time raking out collapsing flaming debris from the tubes while simultaneously dampening down the airflow enough to keep it going while I tapped the pipes to dislodge the residue.
So...does acetone gas combined with soot provide an economical heating alternative?
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25715737 - 01/01/19 09:22 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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How you still smelled it I don't know, as I would imagine that all the acetone had evaporate by the next day and the soot alone ignited. Soot is well known to burn, enough so an entire industry was spawned to sweep chimneys to prevent it.
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Buster_Brown
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: HagbardCeline]
#25716483 - 01/01/19 02:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'll need to see if I can reproduce the enhanced volatility of the residue. Perhaps there's a chemical bonding due to acetone being miscible with the water in wood soot. HaHa, I'm trying to resolve the Situations for the period with acetone...Singing/Ace-tone, hmmm.
Edited by Buster_Brown (01/01/19 06:20 PM)
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25742299 - 01/13/19 04:32 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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acetone is an accelerant and soot is just carbon residue. so no it's pretty bad for heating and acetone is definitely not cost efficient when using it as an accelerant/fuel.
if you burn your home down with acetone you'll probably go to prison for arson because residue left behind will identify the fuel source
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Edited by Oggy (01/13/19 04:34 PM)
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Buster_Brown
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Oggy]
#25742479 - 01/13/19 06:59 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm looking forward to the experiment; I've chunk coal in the creek behind the house, charcoal from a bonfire and soot from the chimney, all saturated by the rainiest year on record.
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25743072 - 01/14/19 06:34 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok here's what I'll do first: Stack unseasoned firewood around a saucer of acetone inside a garbage bag, seal the bag a leave it for a day; the hypothesis being that the water-miscible acetone permeates the unseasoned firewood thus reducing it's point of ignition and producing a complete consumption of the material.
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25743117 - 01/14/19 07:22 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think diffusion of acetone throughout wet wood will be as rapid as a single day, if it really happens at all.
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: koraks]
#25743149 - 01/14/19 08:01 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks (it'd be nice if you're wrong on that point)
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25743319 - 01/14/19 09:52 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I'm off to cut a live tree in the interest of science. But I only have an ounce of acetone so I'll get more nail polish remover at the dollar store. Meanwhile the fresh cut red oak sits in the bag. (originally I'm guessing 2 or 3 ounces were administered during the initial occurrence)
Edited by Buster_Brown (01/14/19 12:41 PM)
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25750591 - 01/18/19 01:57 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I finally got around to stacking @ 50 lb of wood around the acetone. I used 6 oz to allow for the extra thickness of the test medium, and I will allow an extra day.
My concern at the moment is that the temperature is hovering around the freezing mark, and the original scene had the acetone over a heat source, so maybe I'll have to use a pan on a hot plate (yes this experiment is occuring outdoors)
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25751349 - 01/18/19 12:33 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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After 24 hrs I peaked inside the bag and found that the acetone had not completely evaporated, so I moved the project further from the dwelling and re-stacked the firewood around a hot plate with the pan, containing maybe 3 oz, suspended slightly above the hot surface (set on low but warm enough that I recoiled when I set my hand on it)
I figure either space in the bag was too small for the acetone to completely evaporate, or the temp was too low, so tomorrow I'll know whether adding heat promoted evaporation in the enclosure (if it doesn't spontaneously ignite in the meantime)
Actually I wont know because gas was lost in moving the bag, and since @ 3 oz had evaporated previous to the move, the remaining 3 oz may have refilled the enclosure without heat.
Edited by Buster_Brown (01/18/19 01:15 PM)
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Buster_Brown
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25753854 - 01/19/19 02:06 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well it didn't light up like a Roman Candle, and when I threw it in the woodstove it just sat there like a bump on a log; So it's on to trial #2...
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: Buster_Brown]
#25764560 - 01/24/19 01:07 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Soot may behave like charcoal does and absorb and trap hydrocarbons.
Quick google search seems to support this
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Re: LOL Someone threw Acetone on a Fire and Burned off his Eyebrows [Re: koods]
#25764737 - 01/24/19 06:08 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
koods said: Soot may behave like charcoal does and absorb and trap hydrocarbons.
Quick google search seems to support this
OK, so to create a crude firework display all I need to do is infuse the soot (which I collected yesterday) with the acetone and then pack it in tubes. I don't think the result will be fierce enough to create bottle rockets.
I'll start collecting tubes left over from bathroom tissue rolls.
Edited by Buster_Brown (01/24/19 06:30 AM)
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