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Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional
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This is Awesome

https://abc13.com/4901452/

Friday, December 14, 2018 10:07PM
FORT WORTH, Texas --
A federal judge in Texas has ruled the Affordable Care Act "invalid" on the eve of the sign-up deadline for coverage next year.

In a 55-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor ruled Friday that last year's tax cut bill knocked the constitutional foundation from under "Obamacare" by eliminating a penalty for not having coverage.

Supporters of the law immediately said they would appeal.

The White House applauded O'Connor's ruling, but said the law remains in place while appeals proceed. President Donald Trump tweeted that Congress should pass a new law.

Twenty Republican-led states brought the lawsuit. After Trump ordered the Justice Department to stop defending the health law, a coalition of ACA-supporting states took up the defense.

O'Connor is a conservative Republican appointee who previously blocked other Obama-era policies.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla] * 2
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How is that awesome?

You think people losing their health insurance is awesome? Why aren’t you buying insurance through Obamacare? Do you enjoy the festering lesion you have on your leg for the past two years?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/15/18 01:19 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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wish there was a down-vote button


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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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Obama fucked up my health insurance.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 2
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This is the future losfreddy is cheering on:

losfreddy said:
This might now be the proper place to post this, but I wasnt sure were else to go.  I've this rash thibg on ny leg for about 4 years. It happened when I scrapped my shin on a glass rack and has never fully healed. Someone suggested it might be a fungus infection? What y'all think?






Who needs health insurance when the pub doctors are here to cure your every need


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/15/18 01:24 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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Take your jack-knife and cut it off above the knee.

BTW, pain killers are for pussies!


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"What appears impenetrable to us does exist, manifesting itself in the deepest wisdom and the most radiant beauty" Einstein

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: pslyke]
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Man because when I cant afford health insurance they take money out of my return and since I dont get any money back it makes me owe money for the government. They government was already raping me on taxes each check, the. To not get a tax return and owe money for health insurance. That just makes a poor man poorer. My new job now offers health plan, but you shouldn't be forced to have it Espically if you dont have the means.  Btw, is alot better now. Ive been treating with cream

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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At my last job they offered insurance I think for 40$ a month, but I still wasnt making enough money so even if had the insurance, it would be very hard to go see a doctor and keep up with the cost of living ECT. I just dont feel like you should be forced to do it. When I'm doing good and I need it, then ill get health insurance. As for now, that's just another bill thAt I dont need every month.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: pslyke]
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we should just get rid of insurance
make everyone pay out of pocket

It's not like it stops doctors from fucking up while working on you

Edited by Konyap (12/15/18 03:01 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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I’m not real good with all this legal stuff, but based on the article you posted, it looks like the judge deemed it unconstitutional based on changes made to it by Trump’s tax cut bill last year.

Quote:
In a 55-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Reed O'Connor ruled Friday that last year's tax cut bill knocked the constitutional foundation from under "Obamacare" by eliminating a penalty for not having coverage.



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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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losfreddy said:
At my last job they offered insurance I think for 40$ a month, but I still wasnt making enough money so even if had the insurance, it would be very hard to go see a doctor and keep up with the cost of living ECT. I just dont feel like you should be forced to do it. When I'm doing good and I need it, then ill get health insurance. As for now, that's just another bill thAt I dont need every month.



Nobody needs insurance until they need it. That’s the point.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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I go to the doctor all the time, they just bill the province


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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla] * 1
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losfreddy said:
At my last job they offered insurance I think for 40$ a month, but I still wasnt making enough money so even if had the insurance, it would be very hard to go see a doctor and keep up with the cost of living ECT. I just dont feel like you should be forced to do it. When I'm doing good and I need it, then ill get health insurance. As for now, that's just another bill thAt I dont need every month.



I don't understand how you can not make enough money to put $40 towards health insurance. It makes no sense. Even at minimum wage it seems smoking a bit less weed or cigarettes and getting health insurance would be ideal.

Do you know in advance every time you're going to get sick? Or fall, get hurt? slip? car accident? You don't, so it makes sense to have health insurance.

I'm glad I live in Canada...universal health care FTW


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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Losfreddy works on a fishing ship in the North Pacific. There’s no chance he’ll get hurt on that job.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Money is what it comes down to. I'm doing alot better now. but the job I was at before I was barley making it by. And even with health insurance there's still a copay and then charge for medicine and stuff. For someone who was only making 1500 to maybe 2000 a month is very hard to do and rather not pay insurance. And that's the cheap insurance. It be cool if it was included in the taxes or something.  However, my current job, since I'm living on the boat, will send me to a doctor if necessary and there's also a medic and clinic on board that takes care of most basic illnesses and problems. At the moment I dont really need it. I'm not terminally ill and am in pretty good health. I can understand some people probably need it. I don't see why it can't be optional

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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It costs 10k to break your leg in the US. Minimum. Snake bite will run you 50k-200k depending on how much antivenin you need.

The reason it shouldn’t be option is that not having insurance is feeeloading. Since nobody can afford the treatment for anything but minor injuries, when you get sick without insurance you are making everyone else pay. It’s freeloading plain and simple.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/15/18 03:48 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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There is no such thing as Obama care.

It's the affordable care act, and I fucking love it!

Your bullshit Texas judge ruling won't stand.

:lol:


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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Mr Piggy]
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The GOP started calling it that and it stuck. Now that a majority like it, the dems have taken back the term and owned it.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Bernie Sanders says you guys would spend less money to have universal health care

Is it true?


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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Yes. But we would rather have bad healthcare cuz communism


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/15/18 04:05 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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I had state-subsidized insurance for the indigent until obama ruined it. They shut it down when obamacare started.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Medi-cal expansion under the ACA benefitted me greatly at that time.  Prior to that, i had to doctor my own numerous injuries such as torch burns, impact injuries from various tools, etc.  Of course, i could have gone to a county hospital, but the one time i really needed to, they waited me out. 9hrs in with 9 more to go, i figured that if internal bleeding hadn't killed us yet, it probably wouldn't.  Under medi-cal, by contrast, i walked into a hospital with a busted hand, and out with a cast in an hour or so.  It really made me feel like society gave one tiny fuck about me for the first time in my adult life. 

It's  too bad so many states with population that really needed it refused the federal expansion money.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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It was essentially impossible to get health insurance in the US if you worked for yourself until Obamacare. People that complain that Obamacare ruined the insurance market are just ignorant. There was no market.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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losfreddy said:
Money is what it comes down to. I'm doing alot better now. but the job I was at before I was barley making it by. And even with health insurance there's still a copay and then charge for medicine and stuff. For someone who was only making 1500 to maybe 2000 a month is very hard to do and rather not pay insurance. And that's the cheap insurance. It be cool if it was included in the taxes or something.  However, my current job, since I'm living on the boat, will send me to a doctor if necessary and there's also a medic and clinic on board that takes care of most basic illnesses and problems. At the moment I dont really need it. I'm not terminally ill and am in pretty good health. I can understand some people probably need it. I don't see why it can't be optional



So when you develop a terminal illness or break a bone then you'll sign up for health insurance? That's not how it works. I def agree with you and see where you're coming from, I'm in the same boat, but I can't afford the co pays and shit and the insurance is hundreds of dollars. If I could get it for $40 and at least get some basic shit done I'd take it. I also make less than you do. It's all relative I'll give you.

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: krypto2000]
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One of the deals with Obamacare was the mandate in return for covering pre-existing conditions. If you don’t mandate coverage then how do you cover pre existing conditions? People can just buy insurance when they get sick and the whole idea of insurance falls apart.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods] * 1
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None of this was an issue for me, until obama. :archiebunker:

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Losfreddy works on a fishing ship in the North Pacific. There’s no chance he’ll get hurt on that job.



that's litterally the most dangrous job out there

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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koods said:
One of the deals with Obamacare was the mandate in return for covering pre-existing conditions. If you don’t mandate coverage then how do you cover pre existing conditions? People can just buy insurance when they get sick and the whole idea of insurance falls apart.



insurance is a scam

this kid got a brain tumor
they spent millions and millions of dollars to keep him alive but in a state of retardation
it came back and he died obviuosly

that's what you pay for when you pay insurance
other peoples insanely rare illness and doctors fuck ups get spread around to everyone
to the point where salt water cost 300 dollars
and a bed to squeez out a baby cost 30k

so you know how to be a life guard and you can do some sewing, big deal...

Edited by Konyap (12/15/18 05:13 PM)

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Konyap] * 6
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Every time i see you post, i wonder if your dumb ass is worth taking a ban for

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: ballsalsa]
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:hmm:


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: koods]
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He's just the worst

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: ballsalsa]
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I feel bad for posting this topic sorta. Didnt really mean for it to get into a debate. My main thing was the taxes. I'm just barley starting to reach a point where I might actually be to afford better things. Ive pretty much have been poor most my life. I get what you guys are saying about building a better health care system and people freelpading and stuff. Touchy subject.  That's why I don't like getting into politics

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Ogla]
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konyap2020

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Re: Texas judge declares Obama care unconstitutional [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said:
koods said:
One of the deals with Obamacare was the mandate in return for covering pre-existing conditions. If you don’t mandate coverage then how do you cover pre existing conditions? People can just buy insurance when they get sick and the whole idea of insurance falls apart.



insurance is a scam

this kid got a brain tumor
they spent millions and millions of dollars to keep him alive but in a state of retardation
it came back and he died obviuosly

that's what you pay for when you pay insurance
other peoples insanely rare illness and doctors fuck ups get spread around to everyone
to the point where salt water cost 300 dollars
and a bed to squeez out a baby cost 30k

so you know how to be a life guard and you can do some sewing, big deal...



So much facepalm.

Also koods was being sarcastic about the fishing boat...


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