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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #25660874 - 12/06/18 03:49 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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redgreenvines said: Semantic play, however, can be fun, but it is not often the machine driving new ideas. Well formatted delivery of a new idea will seem to follow the pattern of "pure rational deduction, in terms of the statements and their truths", and it is good that we can communicate this way, but I can't say I have seen statements provide genesis of new truths, prior to the experience of the rightness of some synthetic generation of thought. In my experience that logical delivery follows later and helps with sharing of insight.




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We preciously thought the autonomic nervous system wasn't controllable but we've recently learnt it is, so I won't be the one to say no.




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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #25660881 - 12/06/18 03:55 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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redgreenvines said: Semantic play, however, can be fun, but it is not often the machine driving new ideas. Well formatted delivery of a new idea will seem to follow the pattern of "pure rational deduction, in terms of the statements and their truths", and it is good that we can communicate this way, but I can't say I have seen statements provide genesis of new truths, prior to the experience of the rightness of some synthetic generation of thought. In my experience that logical delivery follows later and helps with sharing of insight.




Could you guess who said this?

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We preciously thought the autonomic nervous system wasn't controllable but we've recently learnt it is, so I won't be the one to say no.




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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: tribesman]
    #25664275 - 12/07/18 06:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

What I'm saying is that it is possible to model the mental image of a human being having a physical experience.

Like a hairline trigger on a spray gun with an adjustable nozzle. Our mental mapestry produces results and we live them out as the experiences of our lives.

This isn't to say that everything we experience is in the brain, or in your head.

We say we have a brain in our head but we have neurons elsewhere too. In our bowels and in our chests, we feel, and we instinct, we emote.

We fear, and we feel it, but it's not all in the head. Our hearts can become stronger too.

This all happens over time, a human construct.

The fact is we age, we grow, we grow up, we become and we imagine.

Logic or experience?

Where is your reason...


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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: sudly]
    #25664727 - 12/08/18 12:00 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Pure experience is always going on..

But logic is an analyzation of experience.. and is abstract. A way of understanding experience can be seen with the eyes of logic!

Logic is an abstraction.. but is a useful tool..

The meaning of logic.. is 'of correct order' or 'in the right place'

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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #25664799 - 12/08/18 01:15 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

In the right place a human being can have adapted to a point of being able to monitor and moderate their own heart rate in relation to the situations they find themselves within, such as giving a speech or asking a question at a conference.

It's amazing how far we can push ourselves.


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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: sudly]
    #25666931 - 12/08/18 11:36 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

True.. so the be all and end all is will to power or otherwise control..

Your ability to control is your power?

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Re: Logic or experience ? [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #25667506 - 12/09/18 09:51 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

ability?
a bully -ty


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