Home | Community | Message Board


Zamnesia.com
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Agar, Malt Extract, Petri Dish, Potato Dextrose, Rye Grain

Jump to first unread post. Pages: < First | < Back | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | Next > | Last >
InvisibleNimph
Im Unclecaptainblue!!!!

Registered: 08/13/18
Posts: 1,605
Loc: The dirty
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25862214 - 03/09/19 03:17 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Why havent we had this thread a long time ago lol


:popcorn::takingnotes:


My contribution is that a couple spoons of powdered manure in your regular recipe can make whimpy myc hefty hefty hefty, specially exotics but even cubes to oh pans look great on it.


--------------------
Hunters save your exotic prints to trade! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25617539:shroomeryhead:


Edited by Nimph (03/09/19 10:50 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineMH5109
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/28/17
Posts: 679
Loc: America Flag
Last seen: 10 days, 12 hours
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Nimph]
    #25862232 - 03/09/19 03:45 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

A couple mazatepec plates going to grain tonight. I really like the t4 plate very even and the t6 plate looks cool.



--------------------




Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewcg18
Nothingman
Registered: 12/15/18
Posts: 113
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MH5109]
    #25862700 - 03/09/19 10:21 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

So I made some plates with grain boil water instead of my usual malt extract, and the growth on them is very faint and almost see through.  I also used less agar, but I am assuming the change in appearance of growth is from using grain water...

Is that accurate?  Does less nutrients, or more nutrients cause it to grow this way?  Can I still transfer some of the "faint" myc onto some new plates?  Ive tried the typical MEA recipe of 10g each agar and malt extract to 500ml water, and got good growth on those but the agar is too hard for my liking.  I'm guessing the grain water was low on nutrients is what caused that growth, but maybe it's the opposite?

Anyone with experience on this have any ideas?

P.S. I don't have a good pic because of condensation but I can open a plate for a pic if I need to.


--------------------


Edited by wcg18 (03/09/19 12:47 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineSunnyDayzeS
Finder of shrubberies
Female User Gallery


Registered: 12/30/17
Posts: 1,361
Loc: Canada Flag
Last seen: 4 hours, 51 minutes
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25862784 - 03/09/19 11:19 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Were the plates from a transfer or did you start with lc, LI or spores?  Some myc I find is just more whispy than others.  If they were from transfers, was the myc strong to start?

I’ve used grain water and found that I had not watered it down enough, too many nutes and it would be slow growing.  Then I put more water and myc would grow faster.  I can’t say I’ve noticed thin myc though, but this is coming from a noob. 

Everyone finds what they like but my love is with PDA.


--------------------
:evil::mushroom2::rasta::mushroom2::tongue2:

Canadian Cultivation Supplies Thread

Have a good recipe?  Add it here: Your Favourite Shroom Recipe

For NOOBS to advanced mycologists still wanting to learn, check out Psilosopherrs Ultimate Tek Compendium



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewcg18
Nothingman
Registered: 12/15/18
Posts: 113
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SunnyDayze]
    #25862791 - 03/09/19 11:26 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Quote:

SunnyDayze said:
Were the plates from a transfer or did you start with lc, LI or spores?  Some myc I find is just more whispy than others.  If they were from transfers, was the myc strong to start?

I’ve used grain water and found that I had not watered it down enough, too many nutes and it would be slow growing.  Then I put more water and myc would grow faster.  I can’t say I’ve noticed thin myc though, but this is coming from a noob. 

Everyone finds what they like but my love is with PDA.




They were transfers from plates that had strong tomentose growth, made from standard MEA recipe.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewcg18
Nothingman
Registered: 12/15/18
Posts: 113
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25864844 - 03/10/19 08:51 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Quote:

wcg18 said:
So I made some plates with grain boil water instead of my usual malt extract, and the growth on them is very faint and almost see through.  I also used less agar, but I am assuming the change in appearance of growth is from using grain water...

Is that accurate?  Does less nutrients, or more nutrients cause it to grow this way?  Can I still transfer some of the "faint" myc onto some new plates?  Ive tried the typical MEA recipe of 10g each agar and malt extract to 500ml water, and got good growth on those but the agar is too hard for my liking.  I'm guessing the grain water was low on nutrients is what caused that growth, but maybe it's the opposite?

Anyone with experience on this have any ideas?

P.S. I don't have a good pic because of condensation but I can open a plate for a pic if I need to.





Anyone?


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineFascistbullyboy
Trich master
I'm a teapot


Registered: 04/22/17
Posts: 870
Loc: Uk Flag
Last seen: 10 hours, 8 minutes
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25864880 - 03/10/19 09:46 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

My GWA myce looked lighter than normal. I thought it was normal


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleBigSurMoon
the deathless ones
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/21/18
Posts: 615
Loc: Chicken coop
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25864898 - 03/10/19 10:04 AM (2 months, 14 days ago)

Quote:

wcg18 said:
Quote:

wcg18 said:
So I made some plates with grain boil water instead of my usual malt extract, and the growth on them is very faint and almost see through.  I also used less agar, but I am assuming the change in appearance of growth is from using grain water...

Is that accurate?  Does less nutrients, or more nutrients cause it to grow this way?  Can I still transfer some of the "faint" myc onto some new plates?  Ive tried the typical MEA recipe of 10g each agar and malt extract to 500ml water, and got good growth on those but the agar is too hard for my liking.  I'm guessing the grain water was low on nutrients is what caused that growth, but maybe it's the opposite?

Anyone with experience on this have any ideas?

P.S. I don't have a good pic because of condensation but I can open a plate for a pic if I need to.





Anyone?



I had this same problem. I did full strength, and 50% diluted, and ended up with the same thing that your describing. I havent used it again.  Now I use mea, pda, only. I've read us agar is good... But didnt work for shit for me.

  If you dont like how hard it is, just use less agar.


--------------------
My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes.

TRADE LIST
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25769389#25769389

DISCOVER BLACK KOW
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1

REVERSE BIOPSY LC, (my twist on Josex's lc tek.)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25986733/ center]


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineShaperDreaming
Weirdo
Female User Gallery


Registered: 10/30/18
Posts: 2,081
Loc: United States Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 19 hours
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: BigSurMoon]
    #25867242 - 03/11/19 11:18 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm ready!



And wcg18, those kinds of conditions are why I stopped using grain water for my agar. What type of grains? I used oats for mine and think that people who use denser recipes with grains that are more "grainy" (less hull) like wheat/rye get better results with their grain water. I had better results from using boiled potato water (left over from boiling potatoes to make mashed potatoes), but honestly, when I went over to LME it worked out best.

Also, did you not add any sugars to it? I find that the type of food dye I use is basically pure sugar so a few drops does it (you can see the lack of color in the AGAR over time as proof that myc eats those sugars up like crazy).

Good luck!


--------------------


Methodology/teks I use


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewcg18
Nothingman
Registered: 12/15/18
Posts: 113
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25867253 - 03/11/19 11:25 AM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Quote:

ShaperDreaming said:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm ready!



And wcg18, those kinds of conditions are why I stopped using grain water for my agar. What type of grains? I used oats for mine and think that people who use denser recipes with grains that are more "grainy" (less hull) like wheat/rye get better results with their grain water. I had better results from using boiled potato water (left over from boiling potatoes to make mashed potatoes), but honestly, when I went over to LME it worked out best.

Also, did you not add any sugars to it? I find that the type of food dye I use is basically pure sugar so a few drops does it (you can see the lack of color in the AGAR over time as proof that myc eats those sugars up like crazy).

Good luck!




I used hard wheat boil water, was a nice dark gold color and I thought it would be enough nutrients, and no I didn't add any sugar.  I have malt extract so I will just go back to that.

Do you think it was just not enough nutrients, causing the myc to spread more thinly?  I'll figure it out eventually, but would be nice to know if I need to use more or less.  I will do some experiments with different ratios next time I pour some plates.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineShaperDreaming
Weirdo
Female User Gallery


Registered: 10/30/18
Posts: 2,081
Loc: United States Flag
Last seen: 1 day, 19 hours
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25867400 - 03/11/19 12:55 PM (2 months, 13 days ago)

Not sure, but here's a thread you may be interested in for looking into that more: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25820062/page/1


--------------------


Methodology/teks I use


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleBigSurMoon
the deathless ones
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/21/18
Posts: 615
Loc: Chicken coop
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25867505 - 03/11/19 02:03 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)



--------------------
My soul brings tears, to angelic eyes.

TRADE LIST
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25769389#25769389

DISCOVER BLACK KOW
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25300352/page/1

REVERSE BIOPSY LC, (my twist on Josex's lc tek.)
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25986733/ center]


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewcg18
Nothingman
Registered: 12/15/18
Posts: 113
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ShaperDreaming]
    #25867858 - 03/11/19 05:30 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

ShaperDreaming said:
Not sure, but here's a thread you may be interested in for looking into that more: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25820062/page/1




Cool thanks, not sure how I missed that thread.  Got a better idea of what to try next time I pour some plates. 😉👍


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisibleithikuss
Level 4 Mage
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/13/18
Posts: 640
Loc: Nightosphere
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: wcg18]
    #25867949 - 03/11/19 06:34 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)



--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleOmegaDelta
Spore on an Asteroid
Male


Registered: 09/05/15
Posts: 151
Loc: Gliese 581g
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ithikuss]
    #25868753 - 03/12/19 01:01 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Jalisco warping pda


--------------------
my first trip?...  She gave me the power to HEAR light and SEE sound...:mushroom2:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblewoofwoof
such mushrooms!
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 01/04/19
Posts: 495
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: OmegaDelta]
    #25868878 - 03/12/19 02:57 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

I took a small fruit what I thought was a pin, and the cap opened up in my agar plate. I see spores all over the agar, will this create additional possible contains or should I not worry since they won’t germinate by the time I transfer clean myc out?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleOmegaDelta
Spore on an Asteroid
Male


Registered: 09/05/15
Posts: 151
Loc: Gliese 581g
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: woofwoof]
    #25868887 - 03/12/19 03:17 AM (2 months, 12 days ago)

Try to take a transfer, find a sector with established growth and redo the plate to keep things organized


--------------------
my first trip?...  She gave me the power to HEAR light and SEE sound...:mushroom2:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineTweeq
Plant Guy
Male

Registered: 06/07/18
Posts: 453
Loc: Netherlands Flag
Last seen: 1 hour, 36 minutes
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: OmegaDelta]
    #25871619 - 03/13/19 01:59 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Hi guys,

Here's an update on my progress with agar so far. Dropped my first two T1 plates in rye berry jars a couple of days ago and more to follow shortly, I think..

Any comments are much appreciated. I need to learn..

McKennaii from clone T2


Ogre Boy from sporeprint (T1)



Ogre Boy from clone (T2)


PE6 from sporeprint


RustyWhyte from sporeprint (sry upside down)


Huautla from sporeprint


My attempt at cloning commercial truffles has sadly failed. Will try again..

Any comments? I'm thinking of using any good T1 dishes for a2g and take a transfer first.

Much appreciated


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OnlinePuduwoke
mushroom enthusiastic
 User Gallery

Registered: 06/25/17
Posts: 660
Loc: Europe
Last seen: 33 seconds
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tweeq]
    #25872020 - 03/13/19 05:41 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Hi friend!
I saw you name and thought of the lovely pictures of you and your GF you sent me :grin: Why you call them ogre boy? Thought we found out there are hawaian?

Anyways, have to say you did are GREAT job pouring your plates, no condensation at all, very clean looking!

Wish you the best mate!


--------------------
:sporedrop:Trade List:sporedrop:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineVibe_Enthusiast
Mush Mash


Registered: 10/16/18
Posts: 1,214
Last seen: 3 hours, 27 minutes
Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Puduwoke]
    #25872047 - 03/13/19 05:57 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Can someone identify this lmao



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: < First | < Back | 53 | 54 | 55 | 56 | 57 | 58 | 59 | 60 | 61 | 62 | 63 | 64 | 65 | 66 | 67 | 68 | 69 | 70 | 71 | 72 | 73 | Next > | Last >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Amazon ½ Pint Jars, Agar, Malt Extract, Petri Dish, Potato Dextrose, Rye Grain

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Re: mold in agar plate Anonymous 3,811 3 12/04/99 02:35 AM
by Anonymous
* Fruit on Agar?? Yarry 2,695 17 01/22/04 11:44 PM
by Anonymous
* Agar Anonymous 944 8 04/15/04 12:15 PM
by Bi0TeK
* Agar to Rice flour substrates foxxybrown 939 3 09/01/03 07:00 AM
by eggy
* golden teacher agar asking fugu 1,240 6 01/31/03 02:59 PM
by debianlinux
* First AGAR atempt log...
( 1 2 all )
MushroomJoe 2,707 24 10/30/07 09:59 AM
by FGL
* basic agar question redshadow 746 2 01/30/06 01:45 PM
by Sinthetic
* agar/peroxide conc. iudexk 764 1 08/27/01 03:17 PM
by jonnyshaggs420

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Roadkill, Magash, Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, Citric, total, FooMan, 13shrooms, stonesun, cronicr, PussyFart, Tmethyl, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
20,870 topic views. 25 members, 98 guests and 11 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
Original Seeds Store - Cannabis Seeds
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2019 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.032 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 17 queries.