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Melliferous
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

[Re: D3_Myc]
#27201036 - 02/12/21 08:06 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

D3monic said:

Yea ... I 1g per 100ml but honestly I don’t measure. I just do like half a spoon scoop full 🤣 but peeps wanted exact measurements so I weighed a scoop and went with the average for the tek. I’m never that “exact” with it personally.

Is there an advantage to using the charcoal in the mix? I searched a little and read some RR notes on the subject about healthier myc and less bacterial contams? Is there anything else going on?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201046 - 02/12/21 08:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Not that I’ve seen. Just a color contrast without any additional nutrients added to the plate.

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Melliferous
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201052 - 02/12/21 08:18 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

D3monic said:

Not that I’ve seen. Just a color contrast without any additional nutrients added to the plate.

I might give it a try. I've read that mycorrhizal fungi love charcoal and seem to develop more prolifically when it's present in the soil. It serves as a habitat/nutrient storage location for them -- I suppose the same would happen in a petri, but I'd be interested to see if all the carbon particles would act like a grain and be another inoculation source?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201091 - 02/12/21 08:48 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Melliferous said:

D3monic said:

Not that I’ve seen. Just a color contrast without any additional nutrients added to the plate.

I might give it a try. I've read that mycorrhizal fungi love charcoal and seem to develop more prolifically when it's present in the soil. It serves as a habit/nutrient storage location for them -- I suppose the same would happen in a petri, but I'd be interested to see if all the carbon particles would act like a grain and be another inoculation source?

I did a little experimenting which included the black. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27003803#27003803

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Melliferous
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201160 - 02/12/21 09:33 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the link D3, I will definitely try out the charcoal with the next batch of plates. :thumbup:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201181 - 02/12/21 09:47 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

So I found some premade agar petri dishes with malt extract agar in my surfing of the google box and ordered a few. Am I going to have to pressure cook these when they show up or will that fuck em up? I'm new to agar and these seemed cheap enough so if this is something that I should not use I wont be out much.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201189 - 02/12/21 09:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

If they are premade I’d hope they was sterilized.

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Tucky
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201200 - 02/12/21 09:56 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

D3monic said:

If they are premade I’d hope they was sterilized.

You and me both. Ill contact the manufacturer and ask them. I'll also inspect the packaging really well before I do anything with them

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TheDoobsker
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201567 - 02/12/21 12:46 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

D3monic said:

It’s a custom made tool with brass tubing and an acrylic handle.

I’m in the process of trying to Aquire another but the gentleman that made it shop isn’t heated so will be a few months before that happens. Wanted to use it in a contest/giveaway

Just wanted to add my input to this for anyone wanting a similar tool.
I started using a metal straw only for my clean cultures, inspired by D3

In high school I used to take a small screwdriver, get the metal part red hot and pull it out of the plastic. Then I'd take my honda civic keys and do the same and transfer it into the screwdriver handle. The result is cleaner than you'd expect

I'm sure this could be done with a metal straw as well. just cut it down to a few inches and I'd think you'd have a nearly identical tool

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201613 - 02/12/21 01:01 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Drunken Lullabies1 said:

D3monic said:

If they are premade I’d hope they was sterilized.

You and me both. Ill contact the manufacturer and ask them. I'll also inspect the packaging really well before I do anything with them

They won't sell them non sterile so will only answer yes to you, definitely no need to pressure cook yourself. The question is whether they sterlised them properly. You are definitely best off doing it yourself if you have a pressure cooker.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201866 - 02/12/21 02:54 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Finnnnaaaaallly found some LME. Lets see if I can get that elusive ryzo growth now

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201877 - 02/12/21 03:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

TheDoobsker said:

D3monic said:

It’s a custom made tool with brass tubing and an acrylic handle.

I’m in the process of trying to Aquire another but the gentleman that made it shop isn’t heated so will be a few months before that happens. Wanted to use it in a contest/giveaway

Just wanted to add my input to this for anyone wanting a similar tool.
I started using a metal straw only for my clean cultures, inspired by D3

In high school I used to take a small screwdriver, get the metal part red hot and pull it out of the plastic. Then I'd take my honda civic keys and do the same and transfer it into the screwdriver handle. The result is cleaner than you'd expect

I'm sure this could be done with a metal straw as well. just cut it down to a few inches and I'd think you'd have a nearly identical tool

Yup! I did almost exactly that with some brass 1/4" tubing and 2 part epoxy puddy and made this lil guy:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201901 - 02/12/21 03:10 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I'd like to se one with an angle for personal reasons... :shrug:

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TheDoobsker
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27201945 - 02/12/21 03:26 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Nichrome said:

I'd like to se one with an angle for personal reasons...

Metal straws usually have an angle

Big thanks to Quirk for the MM swabs and Ambrose for the ATL#7 prints

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203003 - 02/13/21 04:37 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Haven’t seen this in a while.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203010 - 02/13/21 04:44 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Whenever I used to have something like that it was always 100% meshed-in mold, had me hella puzzled for a while the times that happened.
Might be about the most difficult contam to get rid of. Some people have had success with a hot-pour and I had success once poking it and transferring to pucks, the mold and the cube myc separated themselves and I could save the culture.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203048 - 02/13/21 05:21 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah if the t3s I took a few days ago do it I’m gonna try poking them next.

Last year pesa kept doing this and I eventually ran it but it took like five weeks to pin.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203118 - 02/13/21 06:49 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Total noob here, trying to go from print to agar. I have PC'd the q tip for 20 mins and left it in the jar, the paper towel has ISO on there. Any feedback for improving technique is welcomed!

Edited by King87 (02/13/21 01:53 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203130 - 02/13/21 06:59 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

~~Upload the picture here.~~ People don't like to open outside links.

Just realized that it was a video. I'm not a fan of swabs. You can make an inoculation loop with a piece of wire and an Xacto Knife handle.

When you PC tools, it's better to wrap them in aluminum foil. That way you can carefully unwrap the tool vs fidgeting with a big jar and you Definitely don't want to be reaching over anything that you want to keep sterile. Shirt sleeves are good at dropping contams all over the place and you want to use slow movements inside the box.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!)

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#27203145 - 02/13/21 07:10 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Doctor Mario said:

Upload the picture here. People don't like to open outside links.

It's a vid, cant seem to embed it properly.

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