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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: coversall]
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I stopped using the temp gun and just wait until I can hold the bottle then start pouring.

Normally I use plates as soon as I need them but since it’s the first time I guess waiting makes sense. If you can do transfers with no pours then you should be good though, pouring plates is by far my lowest contamination activity.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: A.k.a]
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Nice, that encouraging. I'm finding my feet in the world of mushcult beyond MSS->BRF so haven't developed any confidence yet. I'll wait just to be sure. Then it'll pan o'clock!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said:
pouring plates is by far my lowest contamination activity.



That's my experience also, plus a good technique.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Inthepit]
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Even though my agar was almost too cool, I still got a fair bit of condensation in some of the pertis. It's fairly cool in my house so I'm guessing it's unavoidable?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rafiikii]
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nmd_myco said:
wtf is this shit?  doesn't look like mycelium... (don't mind the plate.) wanted to cool the tool very fast and cut my transfers and went a little overboard





it popped up overnight on a very ugly swab germ plate that i fucked up to begin with.  haven't seen anything like it on any of my plates.  I leave plates out open for hours and then incubate them to see what i find. I do it in the hood and outside of the hood.  Just like to be aware of the pressure i am under.

kinda looks like myc, but it spread too far and doesn't seem to originate from a spore or spore clump... I may have fucked with the plate and a loop and a couple of 10microliter drops of sterilized water.

just curious if it looks familiar to anybody.




Cobweb would colonize that plate in under 24 hrs


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: tryptkaloids]
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I have a plate I made 8 days ago with a little dime sized myc growing. Less than an inch away is a tiny yellow dot of bacteria. I think that black dot by the myc is just spores from the syringe. Should I transfer now or wait till the myc gets bigger? When I do transfer should I just cut a circle around the myc and cut it into 4-6 pieces to transfer to the new plates? Or leave that black dot out just in case?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: slothboy] * 1
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I usually let the myc grow some until you can start to see what you’re working with, then just take tiny bits of whatever looks good.

Did you dilute the spores? It’s weird that only the one spot is growing, makes me ‘spicious.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: A.k.a]
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A.k.a said:
I usually let the myc grow some until you can start to see what you’re working with, then just take tiny bits of whatever looks good.

Did you dilute the spores? It’s weird that only the one spot is growing, makes me ‘spicious.



No I just did the smallest drop I could. Aimed for the center but missed. I didn't spread them out with a loop, just made a tiny drop.

Edited by slothboy (10/25/20 06:29 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nmd_myco]
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nmd_myco said:
wtf is this shit?  doesn't look like mycelium... (don't mind the plate.) wanted to cool the tool very fast and cut my transfers and went a little overboard





it popped up overnight on a very ugly swab germ plate that i fucked up to begin with.  haven't seen anything like it on any of my plates.  I leave plates out open for hours and then incubate them to see what i find. I do it in the hood and outside of the hood.  Just like to be aware of the pressure i am under.

kinda looks like myc, but it spread too far and doesn't seem to originate from a spore or spore clump... I may have fucked with the plate and a loop and a couple of 10microliter drops of sterilized water.

just curious if it looks familiar to anybody.




For what it's worth i can literally guarantee that's cobweb lol i happen to be somewhat of an expert at growing it unintentionally hahaha here's a pic of some on grain that started on a plate that was colonized but had exactly what you have on the surface thinly (i figured fuck it full send let's see how she goes)



you'd think cobweb would take over rapidly but i have my place on the cooler side of things and that seems to massively impede on it's ability to spread in 24 hours.. still spreads fast af tho lol also @D3 it looks like you've built your own flow hood.. got a tek on that my man?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Robin-Forepaper]
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Robin-Forepaper said:
nmd_myco said:
wtf is this shit?  doesn't look like mycelium... (don't mind the plate.) wanted to cool the tool very fast and cut my transfers and went a little overboard



it popped up overnight on a very ugly swab germ plate that i fucked up to begin with.  haven't seen anything like it on any of my plates.  I leave plates out open for hours and then incubate them to see what i find. I do it in the hood and outside of the hood.  Just like to be aware of the pressure i am under.

kinda looks like myc, but it spread too far and doesn't seem to originate from a spore or spore clump... I may have fucked with the plate and a loop and a couple of 10microliter drops of sterilized water.

just curious if it looks familiar to anybody.




For what it's worth i can literally guarantee that's cobweb lol i happen to be somewhat of an expert at growing it unintentionally hahaha here's a pic of some on grain that started on a plate that was colonized but had exactly what you have on the surface thinly (i figured fuck it full send let's see how she goes)



you'd think cobweb would take over rapidly but i have my place on the cooler side of things and that seems to massively impede on it's ability to spread in 24 hours.. still spreads fast af tho lol also @D3 it looks like you've built your own flow hood.. got a tek on that my man?



Here she is a few days later alongside the transfers i did. Basically just cobweb T1s.  The first pic I posted was 24 hours after a "clean" visual assessment without magnification. Might have seen it at 40x.

I'm super paranoid now, but its comforting that if the cobweb takes hold, its germs and spreads fast. about 10x faster (at least) than myc. On saturday, it had not started eating the dye, but as you can appreciate in the pic, since then its been feasting on it.

Funny, because I have not found ANY of this on my

My temps in the spot where I incubate range from 70-76.  I have a very generalized warehouse type heating system and a completely open floorplan.  It got cold last night and the low tempo recorded on my $7.99 accurite is 72.  Stupidly, I am not keeping that thing where i keep my plates in storage. I take IR gun temps when i get in in the morning and throiughout the day. The storage spot runs 2-3 degrees higher because its grabbing air from higher up in the space and blowing it downward.  I'm building an insulated closet that will always stay at 74... or whatever I decide is the optimal temp.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nmd_myco]
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Interesting on that purple plate. Like it’s only eating some of the pigment

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: D3_Myc]
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yeah. seems like it eats blue. We will see what it does on that blue plate.  I did a round of plates with a huge squirt of color. like 10 or more drops... just to see what's up. I am prolly going to stick with green/yellow/orange plates.

I have a quarantine area for these and other plates.

Should I just toss them?  I keep my honeypot plates for a couple of weeks and then toss them... I have a lot of contammed plates.  They go in individual ziplocs and stay in a closed tub...

stupid? if contamps are my enemy, i want to know as much about them as possible.  as I did with pest behavior in cannabis. no brainer.  but i would NEVER have kept live bugs around for reference.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nmd_myco]
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I do the same though it’s rare for any of my plates to contaminate with the exception of that thin halo of underlying bacteria I may or maynot occasionally have. I leave older plates unwrapped, occasionally opened ect and I’m always surprised that they don’t contam. I know my basement isn’t THAT clean lol

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nmd_myco] * 1
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nmd_myco said:
Robin-Forepaper said:
nmd_myco said:
wtf is this shit?  doesn't look like mycelium... (don't mind the plate.) wanted to cool the tool very fast and cut my transfers and went a little overboard



it popped up overnight on a very ugly swab germ plate that i fucked up to begin with.  haven't seen anything like it on any of my plates.  I leave plates out open for hours and then incubate them to see what i find. I do it in the hood and outside of the hood.  Just like to be aware of the pressure i am under.

kinda looks like myc, but it spread too far and doesn't seem to originate from a spore or spore clump... I may have fucked with the plate and a loop and a couple of 10microliter drops of sterilized water.

just curious if it looks familiar to anybody.




For what it's worth i can literally guarantee that's cobweb lol i happen to be somewhat of an expert at growing it unintentionally hahaha here's a pic of some on grain that started on a plate that was colonized but had exactly what you have on the surface thinly (i figured fuck it full send let's see how she goes)



you'd think cobweb would take over rapidly but i have my place on the cooler side of things and that seems to massively impede on it's ability to spread in 24 hours.. still spreads fast af tho lol also @D3 it looks like you've built your own flow hood.. got a tek on that my man?



Here she is a few days later alongside the transfers i did. Basically just cobweb T1s.  The first pic I posted was 24 hours after a "clean" visual assessment without magnification. Might have seen it at 40x.

I'm super paranoid now, but its comforting that if the cobweb takes hold, its germs and spreads fast. about 10x faster (at least) than myc. On saturday, it had not started eating the dye, but as you can appreciate in the pic, since then its been feasting on it.






Thats not cobweb ffs.

Nobody has cobweb it's like an illusion man.

Homeboys plates will turn green soon enough.

Edited by mushboy (10/26/20 11:43 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Thats not cobweb ffs.

Nobody has cobweb it's like an illusion man.

Homeboys plates will turn green soon enough.



noted.

here are 40x shots

edge:


transition from where its eating dye to where it hasn't:


epicenter, oldest growth:


The pattern is nothing like the green stuff I am finding... I have only had one plate out of hundreds (working plates) contam with anything that looked like green sporulating mold. it pops up 3 or 4 colonies per "honeypot" plate that i put outside of my hood to see what the general pressure level is in the space...

The green shit looks like this about a week after it germinates on a plate.

40x:


400x- looks spooky as fuck at this mag:


I "catch" colonies like this on most of my test plates. I keep them open for any period between 20 minutes and 2 hours. Over 3 weeks, everything that has "gone green" like this has taken 4 days after plate is closed to be appreciated visually without magnification on a quick inspection.

It always goes green in the center and has white growth for a couiple of mm around the edge as it grows.

The suspected "cobweb" grows much faster.  As I have never caught it on a honeypot, i can't tell you how long it took to germ

I will keep these plates till they turn green or change your mind.

Edited by nmd_myco (10/26/20 12:55 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nmd_myco]
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Your shit looks like my shit


Couple days later


Not cobweb. Theyll go green soon enough.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: coversall]
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coversall said:
Even though my agar was almost too cool, I still got a fair bit of condensation in some of the pertis. It's fairly cool in my house so I'm guessing it's unavoidable?



Condensation is a combination of moisture in the air, and temperature differential. . .

Pouring cool reduces the amount of moisture in the air in the plate. Keeping the plates at a consistent temp is other part of the equation. . .

Condensation is inevitable. . . Just how much makes it noticeable or not. . .


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Your shit looks like my shit


Couple days later


Not cobweb. Theyll go green soon enough.



interesting and similar looking. that jar i had posted was a couple weeks old though. no green ever. the donor plate itself was forgotten about and allowed to grow out for weeks (maybe even over a month i didn't record any of those..) and i definitely wouldn't have sent it if it was green lol maybe not cobweb but not whatever that crazy green shit is either.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Robin-Forepaper] * 1
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That perfectly circular shit is some kind of aspergillus.

Edited by mushboy (10/26/20 03:46 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushboy]
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Oh no...


Oh yea... Clone coming soon.


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