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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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Is that just a mix of Tormento and Rhizo mycellium?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PsyduckMonkey]
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PsyduckMonkey said:
Check out this weird cubensis (?) myc on 2% BRF agar... It's from a rather old spore print, one transfer after germination. The same medium is also used for Tampanensis, and that looks pretty nominal on it.

I wonder if this is an indication of bad genetics, some kind of contamination, or just strange-looking but otherwise good mycelium, maybe because of the medium...



Check out the cottony myc jumping off the agar at 9:00 and 10:30, and the almost flat and homogeneous "stealth" growth spanning the plate from 12:30 to 8:45. The other plates are all homogeneously looking like this "stealth" myc, with no sectoring visible.



I find that T1 often ‘submerges’ for some reason :shrug:

Transfer and keep on trucking. . .


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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Bobbit said:
I find that T1 often ‘submerges’ for some reason



Hmm, that seems to somewhat defeat the purpose of agar. If cube myc can penetratebthe agar surface then what would stop other molds from penetrating into the agar as well?
What kind of recipes do you go by? I make my agar on the soft side between 0.8-1.5% and I've never noticed myc work its way into the puck. Perhaps if you have clumps of BRF, dog food or some other material that myc can penetrate I guess it's possible.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mateja]
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I posted this earlier but, in the wrong thread tho heheh
Mateah said:
Has anyone revived a culture older than one year which hasn't been stored properly for long term storage but has instead only been kept on a regular recipe on a thin poured plate in room temp? 🤔




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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: J. Jack Flash]
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i'm reaching a bottleneck in my processes, but as they say, i'm fully colonized. can't stop working on things. can't keep going in the current direction because of that bottleneck. i need an outlet which doesn't result directly in my entire house becoming a grow room.



ha, I feel the same. Every week I start more agar just to have something new to watch while I work on last week's stuff.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: spiritlands]
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spiritlands said:
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i'm reaching a bottleneck in my processes, but as they say, i'm fully colonized. can't stop working on things. can't keep going in the current direction because of that bottleneck. i need an outlet which doesn't result directly in my entire house becoming a grow room.



ha, I feel the same. Every week I start more agar just to have something new to watch while I work on last week's stuff.



Waiting for grains to colonise .........  :waitingpatiently:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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What is your read on these culture?  OK?

Notice how the queen of England appears in one of them.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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Edmunter said:
What is your read on these culture?  OK?

Notice how the queen of England appears in one of them.





Looks good to me and that's Elvis eating a cheeseburger...not the Queen of England  :facepalm3: :laugh2:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mateja]
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Mateah said:
Bobbit said:
I find that T1 often ‘submerges’ for some reason



Hmm, that seems to somewhat defeat the purpose of agar. If cube myc can penetratebthe agar surface then what would stop other molds from penetrating into the agar as well?
What kind of recipes do you go by? I make my agar on the soft side between 0.8-1.5% and I've never noticed myc work its way into the puck. Perhaps if you have clumps of BRF, dog food or some other material that myc can penetrate I guess it's possible.



I use MEA. 1.5-2% always well mixed and uniform. . .

As suggested earlier, myc definitely travels ’through’ agar.

I’ve just noticed that T1 seems to sometimes spend less time on the surface :shrug:

@edmunter. Looking awesome dude!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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Maybe it's just me, but I always try to pour thin. I see a lot of plates that are just big thick and I'm like....

:ytho:


I know it can effect the growth and some people pour thick, but I just never felt the need. :shrug:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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I just pour until it ‘joins’. I guess it depends on how cool I’m pouring as to how ’thick’ the gel is. . .


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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Bobbit said:
I just pour until it ‘joins’. I guess it depends on how cool I’m pouring as to how ’thick’ the gel is. . .



Right on lol

It was a random post...I'm awake in the middle of the night and decided to post random thoughts :lol:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Has anyone ever used pre made Malt Extract Agar plates ordered online and if so did you have any success? I personally would rather make my own from start to finish because what's the fun in "store" baught but unfortunately for now that may not be a option.
Thanks for any and all opinions and shared knowledge...
Mush love Willypimp....

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Tormato said:
Maybe it's just me, but I always try to pour thin. I see a lot of plates that are just big thick and I'm like....

:ytho:


I know it can effect the growth and some people pour thick, but I just never felt the need. :shrug:



There was a side by side comparison post somebody did recently and all of the thicker plates grew considerably faster.  Try your own experiment to be sure.  Me personally, I've damaged enough transfers due to thin plates on the donor side and thin plates on the receiving side that I only pour thick.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DcevLearn]
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Thicker agar is less prone to water pooling too, at the top of the agar following the PC cycle?

There seems to be some kind of hitch with my agar creation, because some plates/jars come out with a small amount of water on top of the jellified agar.

Is there any other possible culprit other than condensation?=

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: meaculpaUIO]
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Dumb questions —

People buy agar in sleeves, do the work, and then put them back into the sleeves

What if you just want to inoculate or transfer 5x plates.

Are the unused ones in the sleeve still sterile / good to store there for the time being? Fridge until use?

Also I want to do some agar work For the  few months until it warms up — will I constantly bee needing to make transfers until I’m ready to put them into a jar? How good will a fully colonized plate be able to keep?


Sorry I’ve read a decent amount and these small random details and questions just seem to be holding me back from getting  agar work started. Thanks in advance.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: longstrangetrip8]
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People do it different ways. Some use a fridge, I put poured plates into sleeve at room temp until used. Mostly to keep them separate and easy to grab, at room temp any contamed plates will show it by the time I go to use. Plates in use are just out on a shelf growing.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: LtLurker]
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nothing to be envious about, for sure.. but have done a round of 3 plates per syringe (x3). GT, B+ and PM (purple mystics, yet another cube- but purple! :mushroomtwirl:

had a big struggle getting the parafilm wrapped nicely, got a tip to fold in half lengthwise then wrap and did that on a test plate looks real clean and good that way so will make it our standard.

otherwise, agar recipe was 22g premix MEA to 430ml water (seaweed solution labs brand, label recipe called for 100g to 1.8l water), sterilize function on the instapot ultra for 30min, left to natural pressure release for one hour then slowly released the remaining pressure. Poured at 124F-ish, nice and thin! I got 20 (15x100mm) plates easily. actually wasted the last bit by pouring into 20th, ended up 3/4 full on that one and used it for a loop&needle cool off, then foolishly threw it away afterwards...

other noob mistakes and malpractices included initial syringe drop being more like a squirt and tilting plate to better see drop for loop spread, leaving nice fat water roll marks where solution slid around. and if the tilt for loop didn't do it then for sure my parafilm wrapping fiasco did :facepalm3:
can already tell the PM plates are bacterial, or sure looking that way (about T+36hrs now from inoc), others are not showing anything substantial...yet~


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: meaculpaUIO]
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meaculpaUIO said:
Thicker agar is less prone to water pooling too, at the top of the agar following the PC cycle?

There seems to be some kind of hitch with my agar creation, because some plates/jars come out with a small amount of water on top of the jellified agar.

Is there any other possible culprit other than condensation?=



It's funny you say that bc last ones I poured were all thick and I had water after pc. I made them thick thinking it would absorb water better but it was opposite for me. There was More condensation and I poured those after the agar had cooled. Last night I made a bunch more maybe 1/4 in thick and no excess condensation after pc.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: spiritlands]
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gonna bookmark this for my upcoming reintroduction to agar.


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