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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MH5109]
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Ive been noticing a perfect glistening ring around all my culture.  Pasty said it was bacteria but on closer inspection it looks like young mycelia forming or a ripple befor it grows.




Ive only noticed sine ive been using agar,  These batches has been made soft.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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i think that's the leading edge of the mycelium growing beneath the surface.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: J. Jack Flash]
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J. Jack Flash said:
i think that's the leading edge of the mycelium growing beneath the surface.



Good call.  thats why i can see fingers under there.  Soft agar!  It all makes sense suddenly

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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I think it could also be the enzymes from the Mycelium beginning to digest what's around the it. I see this with the colored agar I get from the Asian place it goes clear as the Mycelium absorbs nutrients. The tips of the Mycelium look really cool if you get the right angle they almost look like glass.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: spiritlands]
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spiritlands said:
I think it could also be the enzymes from the Mycelium beginning to digest what's around the it. I see this with the colored agar I get from the Asian place it goes clear as the Mycelium absorbs nutrients. The tips of the Mycelium look really cool if you get the right angle they almost look like glass.



Thats why I was a bit surprised when Pasty said it was bacterial.  I have 4 that look like this
Im gunna chuck 1 in some millet, see if i can get a clone and keep expanding the rest to get better looking growth.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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Looks clean to me. I have some with growth like that too. No real rhizos but it is moving quickly and it's uniform so I'm going to use it. I transferred it in two plates and both are clean. I'm going to use one to start some wbs and the other I'm going to let pin on the agar and see if the clone tissue is more aggressive. I'm doing this with bht rustspore and Redboy.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: spiritlands]
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I've got some old plates and don't wanna have start from swab again, would it be bad to just snag a piece and start from there?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Crackatoa]
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Crackatoa said:
I've got some old plates and don't wanna have start from swab again, would it be bad to just snag a piece and start from there?



Id do both as u are in the sab anyway

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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Day 4. My first agar seems to be taking off. The other 5 jars I poured are still growth free.  :dancer:



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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Edmunter said:
spiritlands said:
I think it could also be the enzymes from the Mycelium beginning to digest what's around the it. I see this with the colored agar I get from the Asian place it goes clear as the Mycelium absorbs nutrients. The tips of the Mycelium look really cool if you get the right angle they almost look like glass.



Thats why I was a bit surprised when Pasty said it was bacterial.  I have 4 that look like this
Im gunna chuck 1 in some millet, see if i can get a clone and keep expanding the rest to get better looking growth.



I've found that myc grows into agar. Sometimes visible like what you are seeing, and sometimes below growth like your others.
Evidence to support this idea is when you transfer a thick chunk of agar and there is immediate growth from the underside. Clearly the myc is growing from inside, not around. . .


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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deffo. starting out i read lots that the mycelium only grows on the surface, and is considered a 2d structure. in retrospect, this seems plainly incorrect for both reasons mentioned, colored agar going clear, and fuzzing up on all sides of a transferred wedge. hm.. i have a idea.

imagine a solid-ish lc. fairly weak agar gel, maybe in a half pint mason or pp5 screwtop jar. scoopable. inoculated on the surface, with a prime culture. behold as the mycelium penetrates the entirety of the goo. contaminants will show on the surface in short order. if no contaminants reveal themselves, a sterile tool can scoop the goo out and inoculate jars or bags all the same, and shaking pulverizes it like the soft agar it is. i think i'll give this a shot.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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Bobbit said:
Edmunter said:
spiritlands said:
I think it could also be the enzymes from the Mycelium beginning to digest what's around the it. I see this with the colored agar I get from the Asian place it goes clear as the Mycelium absorbs nutrients. The tips of the Mycelium look really cool if you get the right angle they almost look like glass.



Thats why I was a bit surprised when Pasty said it was bacterial.  I have 4 that look like this
Im gunna chuck 1 in some millet, see if i can get a clone and keep expanding the rest to get better looking growth.



I've found that myc grows into agar. Sometimes visible like what you are seeing, and sometimes below growth like your others.
Evidence to support this idea is when you transfer a thick chunk of agar and there is immediate growth from the underside. Clearly the myc is growing from inside, not around. . .



I see that also. Especially if using 10 grams of agar or less per 500ml. The myc digs in a little.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: J. Jack Flash]
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J. Jack Flash said:
deffo. starting out i read lots that the mycelium only grows on the surface, and is considered a 2d structure. in retrospect, this seems plainly incorrect for both reasons mentioned, colored agar going clear, and fuzzing up on all sides of a transferred wedge. hm.. i have a idea.

imagine a solid-ish lc. fairly weak agar gel, maybe in a half pint mason or pp5 screwtop jar. scoopable. inoculated on the surface, with a prime culture. behold as the mycelium penetrates the entirety of the goo. contaminants will show on the surface in short order. if no contaminants reveal themselves, a sterile tool can scoop the goo out and inoculate jars or bags all the same, and shaking pulverizes it like the soft agar it is. i think i'll give this a shot.



I've had similar thoughts, though the introduction of a sterile tool is an unnecessary vector in my opinion. I opt for ezLC instead.

I find a lid open and pour less prone to fuckup.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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I think we see the colony as a disk but that's bc the agar is thin. I think in reality it's growing in all directions at once, it's trying to be a sphere. We see a slice of that sphere.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: spiritlands]
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Interesting.  I have been using 8g agar/500 as i like it softer.  Im going to cut back on the nutes too as ive been seeing some peops using 1% with success

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Edmunter]
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"Can I stay here, too, please. I don't need mushroom!"

One of my transfers got a "friend" (maybe Trichoderma or Penicillium?). Curious to see what will happen when they meet.



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: curious.psychonaut] * 1
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That is aspergillus nidulans

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Alt#7 sclertoia inner tissue clone plate
looks really clean, hoping to get a heavy stoning culture


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Bobbit]
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Bobbit said:
J. Jack Flash said:
deffo. starting out i read lots that the mycelium only grows on the surface, and is considered a 2d structure. in retrospect, this seems plainly incorrect for both reasons mentioned, colored agar going clear, and fuzzing up on all sides of a transferred wedge. hm.. i have a idea.

imagine a solid-ish lc. fairly weak agar gel, maybe in a half pint mason or pp5 screwtop jar. scoopable. inoculated on the surface, with a prime culture. behold as the mycelium penetrates the entirety of the goo. contaminants will show on the surface in short order. if no contaminants reveal themselves, a sterile tool can scoop the goo out and inoculate jars or bags all the same, and shaking pulverizes it like the soft agar it is. i think i'll give this a shot.



I've had similar thoughts, though the introduction of a sterile tool is an unnecessary vector in my opinion. I opt for ezLC instead.

I find a lid open and pour less prone to fuckup.



totally agree. still, i feel like ezlc has the same problem, when you add/inject water on top of the agar puck. add to that, removing the potential vector of testing the lc on agar before using it for inoculation, since any contaminants will show on the surface straight away. i don't know, feels like a wash to me. but who knows, it might not colonize thru the whole thing anyway. if i give this a shot, i'll be sure to post a journal at least.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: J. Jack Flash]
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:takingnotes:


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