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FishLevelMidnight
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: Solipsis]
#25656273 - 12/04/18 07:49 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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The landslide might just be an adaptation to the environment.
Spores get washed down the slopes and colonize on decomposing wood (? ) and then get covered by the next landslide and continue to colonize the wood.
The following landslide might expose the wood to the surface (or get close enough) for other environmental factors to then induce fruiting...
Maybe the soil isself isn’t so important but the mushrooms are able to construct a niche in the non nutritious, chaotic environment that other organisms can’t exploit?
If my cube style grow doesn’t work I’ll try sawdust in the spawn (more time to break down than if used in sub) and try 2 tubs, one with my normal casing and another with some clay like soil.
Going to slant my clean T2 just to be safe, although I’d prefer to slant a fruit clone
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
#25656559 - 12/04/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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If I were to try this species I'd use the same technique I used for Psilocybe papuana and P. aucklandiae but probably with some aged sawdust. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24693122 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22459920
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Solipsis
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: inski]
#25661803 - 12/06/18 02:09 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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@fisherman: either way, you don't know what kind of signalling goes on in their metabolism to trigger fruiting or other parts of their life cycle. Some of the cues may actually be kind of meaningless but happen to coincide with the ideal time to start another phase of their development.
It makes sense to try and simulate different parts of their natural habitat like the soil type and soil life, and see what works.
Yes, a landslide may just be convenient but what makes the niche work and what makes it tick? There has to be something atuned to it if relatively easy decomposable substrates on their own don't cut it even if they should have everything they need. Might be they are still unnecessarily waiting on some cue/signal that belongs to their natural habitat cause that is how their biological clock works?
Other than that I defer to much more experienced mycologists, esp experienced with exotic species. So far I have not fruited any of my exotics yet but hey this was just the first season.
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shroompy
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: Solipsis]
#25692959 - 12/21/18 02:09 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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How's the zapotecorum coming? Is there any news? I've got mine in a WBS Glas... It's taking its time..
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FishLevelMidnight
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: shroompy]
#25700150 - 12/24/18 11:22 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I heard it was slow so I did an LC and inoculated my grain with a HIGH volume.
Tub is chilling now- I did 4.5 qt grain to 3 qt sub and its been a little over a week.
I've been gone so not sure how it is recovering, but I will update after the new year or after I case or something cool happens. I'm worried about temps as I am only in 60-64 F range now, but we will see.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25642180 if you want to follow along!
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Solipsis
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
#25700806 - 12/24/18 05:51 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great! If i have the attention and time for it, will try to do a comparison with zap on different substrates. I've had some contams on agar following me around, but now seems to have a nice clean culture.
I don't know why but I have a feeling zaps would be good on a mix of wood and grains.
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: Solipsis]
#25701757 - 12/25/18 08:09 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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FishLevelMidnight
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Re: P. zapotecorum grow, what substrate to use/test? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25701949 - 12/25/18 10:34 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice.
Def going to use sawdust in the grainspawn next time and if this doesn’t pan out.
Things are cold here so will likely have to revisit in the late spring/summer, got ahead of myself
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