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anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria?
    #2566049 - 04/16/04 12:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Has anyone ever tried or know a person who grew or tried to grow Amanita Muscaria? I just ordered a z from one of the sponsers to give it a try. If its good id like to try and make an outdoor plot or indoor casing. Anyone have any good/bad trip reports fly agaric?
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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566053 - 04/16/04 12:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I dont care for it and I am unaware of a sucessful cultivation attempt


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2566060 - 04/16/04 12:13 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I've read a report in which a person made a mycelial slurry from a fruit body. Icoculated the soil around a pine tree and got fruits two? years later.

Or it could be my imagination, sometimes the line between reality and my imagination becomes blurry.

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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566063 - 04/16/04 12:14 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yah, I heard it was difficult because they have a symbiosis of sorts with pine trees.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: salviadog]
    #2566074 - 04/16/04 12:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Im sure you could grow it on grain then wood chips. Theres a thread in hunting wher eits found growing wild on chips. I doubt they need to be holding hands with the trees its just you need that substrate for it to grow naturally. I guess that you could say cubes have Symbiosis with cows and horses then?


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566102 - 04/16/04 12:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Go read up on the species in question, Amanita muscaria You will find that it is a mycorrhizal species that is found in association with trees. Not every mushroom is the same, they all have their own growth chracteristics.

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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566213 - 04/16/04 01:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I really doubt you would be able to fruit it without the host plant. I believe many of these mycorrhizal fungi receive signals in the form of hormones from the host plant telling it to do certain things.
For example most morels "know" when the host plant they are with is damaged and dying. They will fruit at this point since their host plant will no longer be able to support them and the mushroom need to sporalate to pass on their genes.

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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566237 - 04/16/04 01:25 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

dude find a pine tree, scrape all that dirt out from under it... its got to have tons of rotting needles and bark in that dirt! pasteurize it and try and start something with it... possibly in agar? i dunno... just an idea to play with...


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566535 - 04/16/04 04:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Your best bet would probably be to inocculate some seedlings with spores.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2566566 - 04/16/04 05:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

A common method for this type of inoculation uses a mixture of spores in conjuction with an adhering agent to dip the roots of the seedling in before planting. I think an easy way to accel this process would be to make a simple sugar/fruitbody slurry and dip the roots into the slurry. I am sure this would be beneficial to the tree as well.

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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2566670 - 04/16/04 06:34 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

My friend made this picture of Amanita muscaria mycellium after few months of growth:


I also cloned it but mine grew even less in the same time.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: zeronio]
    #2566737 - 04/16/04 08:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What kind of agar is it on?


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: YidakiMan]
    #2566744 - 04/16/04 08:09 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Regular PDYA. I still didn't find all the stuff needed for proper mycorrhizal mediums.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: zeronio]
    #2567452 - 04/16/04 01:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Did he clone a fruitbody, or germinate spores?


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2569698 - 04/17/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

doesnt www.iamshaman.com sell amanita muscaria caps? try and contact that company and see what they do for the growth... im sure they would help u out!


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: ThatDaltonGuy]
    #2569880 - 04/17/04 01:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good idea dalton guy, Thats the company i just orderd a z of. i got the low b grade stuff to give it a try.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2570144 - 04/17/04 03:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just a heads up,
Having read most Wassoon's books in 1997, isn't it BIRCH trees rather than PINE trees? And while they are both "piney", wouldn't it be better to go with what they actually grow on? Why not develop a slightly refridgerated groing room with potted birch and muscaria? Just an idea. The Drunken Afficinado


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: TheAfficianado]
    #2570224 - 04/17/04 04:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

A. muscaria grows in association with conifers. Both pine and birch are conifers.

In my area I have only found them associated with pines. Although we do have thick wooded areas of alders, another conifer similar to birch.

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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Joshua]
    #2570276 - 04/17/04 05:47 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Both pine and birch are conifers.




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Although we do have thick wooded areas of alders, another conifer similar to birch.




Joshua, I am not sure if I miss something here, but I always thought that conifers are the trees with needles instead of leaves :confused: ?
But as far as I know birch and alder have leaves and no needles.


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Re: anyone ever grow Amanita Muscaria? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2570390 - 04/17/04 08:42 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Did he clone a fruitbody, or germinate spores?




We both cloned a fruitbody. It doesn't seem so hard, except for the slow growth.
Hopefully I'll test few more complex mycorrhizal mediums to see if it's going to be any better. However I don't plan to grow Amanita muscaria, this is just a rehearsal for Amanita cesarea which is almost extinct in my area and is a bit hard to find.


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