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seussiii
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25662527 - 12/06/18 07:34 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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lmao i haven't done much reading on pinks yet but im up north. Kind of a completely diff world vs down in south FL. We still get some winters in the teens on the panhandle
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: seussiii]
#25662528 - 12/06/18 07:36 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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there's plenty range in oyster species and strains in temperature. the "typical" oyster will tolerate freezing no problems. you are in a situation where you probably can grow almost everything we envy having a natural habitat outdoors for no problem most of the year and grow everything we envy the same for at some point during the year.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: bodhisatta]
#25662535 - 12/06/18 07:42 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: there's plenty range in oyster species and strains in temperature. the "typical" oyster will tolerate freezing no problems. you are in a situation where you probably can grow almost everything we envy having a natural habitat outdoors for no problem most of the year and grow everything we envy the same for at some point during the year.
Good times! Looking forward to testing.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: seussiii]
#25666488 - 12/08/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I have an indoor room setup similar to that with the exhaust fan pulling air out and fresh air coming through the passive intake. I have most of it setup now. I will post pictures when I get the chance. I'm super stoked to start this endeavor. I'm mainly worried about the spore load but my exhaust is pulling the spores out of the house and the enclosure is so airtight that the sides suck in tight when I have my fan on full blast. I have the proper cfms and its set to cycle 4 times an hour. The humidifier is keeping it at around 80% RH on full blast. I think the setup is working sufficiently atm. The next step is to test it with the actual mushrooms.
P.S. I want to document this experience because its hard to find a lot of information about people growing them indoors safely, even though I see tons of videos of people doing this exact thing with no info on the logistics or safety protocols. I DO NOT want my family getting sick from spores. I also have a background in chemistry so I know a little bit about venting things you don't want away from the area for safety.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25666493 - 12/08/18 07:19 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also wanted to say thanks to everybody posting on here. A lot of the information and affirmations I was looking for are beginning to trickle in.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: seussiii]
#25666504 - 12/08/18 07:26 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only problem I see with the martha is that to my knowledge they aren't airtight (Unless you found one that is all the way around and not just on the tops and sides)… I'm also very anal about things being the way I want them to be so I may have gone overkill Anyway, the martha not being airtight and not having an exhaust to pull it out of the house might lead to spore leakage outside of the enclosure which is what I'm trying to avoid for my lungs. Just my .2 c! Good luck though!
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25666509 - 12/08/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yep, that's similar to my setup. Mine is a 6x4x4 box I built that's airtight with a passive intake and an active exhaust venting everything outside. Thanks for the affirmation!
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25669631 - 12/10/18 09:27 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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My room is 10 x 4 x 7 (L X W X H) I found that the pond foggers do not last very long and at $200 each for a 9 disk fogger. I built this instead. If your room is smaller you can adjust the # of misters.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25672157 - 12/11/18 11:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Having trouble find both of those ingredients for the substrate... can you buy soybean hill pellets? And I'm assuming I can get hardwood pellets like oak from a hardware store.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25672261 - 12/11/18 11:59 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, you can buy in pellets and powder. I would think the powder is easier for hand mixing. Call feed stores. I get my soy hulls at southern states. Fuel pellets you can get at any hardware store just about (tractor supply, southern states). If you live in a state where the climate changes you must stock up in the cold weather or you will not be able to find them in the summer.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (12/11/18 12:05 PM)
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25674246 - 12/12/18 11:04 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the tips! I got about 80 lbs of hardwood fuel pellets for like $8 at Menards. I just need to find soybean hulls, if I can't I'm sure supplemented hardwood would do just as well as straw (probably better). I kind of live in a city but there are farms surrounding the area so I might be able to find something.
The main thing I like about the fuel pellets is that there will be zero waste water since I can calculate exactly how much lime water to mix in to it to fluff it up. Glad someone talked me into it because I heard straw can get messy lol.
Idk if you supplement yours since you use soybean hulls, but I was thinking about using wheat bran in the mix at 10% or less if I can't find the hulls for some reason (That's what I've been reading on here)? I already have gypsum and the correct lime for the pasteurization process. I'm not sure if I have the right gypsum though, I got pelletized garden gypsum from the green house, its dihydrate... like 16% sulfur and 20% ca? Haven't found many posts pertaining to the correct type to use besides RR talking about it a little bit.
Ordering my spawn today or tomorrow!
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25674440 - 12/12/18 12:49 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Soy hulls are supplement. Just about any grain or by-product of the grain would be considered supplement. Different types of hay would be considered supplement, most commonly; alfalfa.
Grain supplements require sterilization. Some get by pasteurizing alfalfa pellets and hardwood fuel pellets.
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Jooceman


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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Quadman]
#25675661 - 12/12/18 09:22 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I'll need to either boil or PC supplements versus the lime pasteurization for the fuel pellets? Is there a reason why you can use lime for the supplements?
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25675853 - 12/12/18 11:46 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also do you guys have any recommendation on who to buy oyster spawn from when first starting out? I would eventually like to get into cloning/cultures/agar work... but for now I'm just dipping my feet.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25675906 - 12/13/18 12:59 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is the recipe I used b4 I started using soy hulls...

If you can find soy hulls that is the way to go. with soy you will get bigger flushes and fruits.
I use a flow meter that is why the water is in liters. The 10/4 is because I was mixing in 4 5 gallon buckets with a paint mixer. Each bucket got the listed amounts to make ten 6 1/4 LB bags.
As stated you will need to sterilize your sub. You may want to think about building a 55-gallon drum steamer. PM me if you need help building a steamer I am currently helping someone build one so I have all the drawings for the electrical work ready to give to you.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25676839 - 12/13/18 12:10 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Check your Private messages.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25676892 - 12/13/18 12:39 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I kind of planned to do a recipe like that with wheat bran/soybean hulls. I eventually would like to rig up a burner so I can just sterilize it all with a hot water heater... Would probably be a lot less science involved lol. I'm waiting until the baby gets here and we move out of this house so I can double up on stuff and have a semi permanent place to keep all my new gadgets. This is all my learning phase until next year when we move and I can decide if I want or need to go bigger
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: Jooceman]
#25677025 - 12/13/18 01:54 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jooceman said: I kind of planned to do a recipe like that with wheat bran/soybean hulls. I eventually would like to rig up a burner so I can just sterilize it all with a hot water heater... Would probably be a lot less science involved lol. I'm waiting until the baby gets here and we move out of this house so I can double up on stuff and have a semi permanent place to keep all my new gadgets. This is all my learning phase until next year when we move and I can decide if I want or need to go bigger 
If you use anything together with the soy hulls you will do more harm than good. Soy hulls and fuel pellets are enough! You don't want to over supplement. I get at least 100% BE with soy hulls
Not sure what you mean by a hot water heater and a burner but a 55-gallon drum is like $10 on craigslist a timer is like $20 and a heat controller is like $20 then you need a float valve which is about $25 and an electric element is $25. So for under $150 you can have something that will do the job well. Just set in and come back the next day and it is done. Check below for how to build a steamer.
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#25707291 - 12/28/18 08:16 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just wanted to note that I grow indoors using hydroponic grow tents from Ipower.
They are not air tight. If you don't suck at harvesting spores rarely accumulate.
Point of this post - I use forced air intake and forced air outtake. It just a matter of making your exhaust fan stronger than your intake fan.
This way I still have negative pressure with a huge abundance of fresh air coming in. I don't have ways to create a passive air intake system in my current environment. Who the hell has a garage without a window anyways...oh yea... me.
I can tell I have negative pressure because they tents will literally suck around their framework like their caving in! Mission accomplished.
There's lots of ways to skin a cat. With that said - the GGMM book is just one cat.
I personally have found a balance between existing knowledge in books, browsing the forums, and the occasional youtube video - but those essentially just show me exactly what I don't want to do.
End of the day results ? The books get your mind rolling, and then your realize 20 years had gone by and there's a 100 better ways to do things. But regardless knowledge is power and it all helps us wrap our minds around mushroom cultivation. There are many specific instances the book explained something so common sensed and yet so profound - where my mind says DUH while reading it, yet I know I could have easily struggled to come to the same conclusion.
Should I angle my fan more, what happens if I change this, etc etc etc. I think you get what I'm getting at. Altogether with community knowledge and written in stone knowledge - it helps us get to that next level of critical thinking of the task at hand.
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Indoor Oyster Mushroom Cultivation (moved) [Re: mittenmushrooms]
#25707807 - 12/28/18 01:50 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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mittenmushrooms said: I don't have ways to create a passive air intake system in my current environment. Who the hell has a garage without a window anyways...oh yea... me.
From the sound of what you are saying you are exhausting into your garage. That is a big no-no. You are going to do harm to your lungs breathing in spores.
If you Remove the intake fan and leave the hole that is a passive intake. I would suggest you find a way to get the exhaust out of the house!!
A passive intake just draws air into the tent from another room or in your case it sounds like from outside the tent (ie another room) without a fan. People use passive intakes when they have a problem keeping humidity up and they always exhaust the spores outside the house in either case passive or not. The way you have your set up sounds fine you have negative pressure. but negative pressure does not matter if you are not exhausting outside the house. I hope I just read your post wrong and you are exhausting outside.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (12/28/18 02:06 PM)
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