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Pastywhyte
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Friskydingo2525 said: Just found this interesting since it goes against almost everything anyone will tell you about proper growing conditions
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TheMadHatter420
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
#24069794 - 02/06/17 12:36 PM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use my basement which is cold as fuck. I too need to heat, but I have a 250W heat lamp clamped uner the table. I use this as rest of basment in about 50f while my tent stays about 70-73f, and I don't get those dry air currents that a heater will produce. I get good growth and nothing drys out on me.
Just an FYI, many people try to avoid higher temps as those will encourage more contamination growth. I find when I do get some mold, it grows slow as fuck in those temps compaired to shrooms so I can finish a flush and then junk it.
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mushhiehunter
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While bottom watering with the pinset in place, how much should I mist? less then usual, same?
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ComebackKid
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: mushhiehunter]
#24089088 - 02/14/17 05:50 AM (7 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mist when the surface starts to dry, per usual
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MycoWhisper
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Hello,
I am new and have my first 8 x 1/2qt jars are currently in the last phase of colonizing. I have been doing a lot of reading, but could not find info on handling BRF cakes. in your instructions you indicate that you should dump the water every 24hrs, to reduce potential bacterial growth in standing water. but you start watering "after" a pin set has developed. then basically 24hrs after the, for all intents, delicate pins has formed, now we start picking up the cake and changing the water in the lids that it is sitting in. how is this done without smooching the pins?
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Re: dumping water every 24 hrs [Re: MycoWhisper] 1
#24482666 - 07/14/17 12:09 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Unrelated but don't forget to let them consolidate at least a week after no BRF can be seen in the jars.
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Shroomterd
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: MycoWhisper]
#24482668 - 07/14/17 12:10 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just made a lid will try it out bottom watering on this the second flush..
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ComebackKid
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Re: dumping water every 24 hrs [Re: MycoWhisper]
#24482693 - 07/14/17 12:22 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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1/2 qt or 1/2 pint?
I usually don't take my cakes out to change the water. I just keep refilling the dish with the cakes in place. A good pinset will use the water without needing to change it.
With a pinset like the cakes in my picture I just carefully handled the cakes from the bottom and top. But basically you can hold them however you want just make sure you're not squishing your pins.
Also, as adden mentioned, don't forget to consolidate your cakes for a week and then dunk and roll after birthing!!
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Re: dumping water every 24 hrs [Re: ComebackKid]
#24510518 - 07/26/17 09:12 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I started using BW EK for second flush. I am using 1 pint cakes and notice the watering does not keep the top half of cake wet. I believe that this tel will work best with 1/2p jars. No matter how much water I add to perlite, I cannot get humidity over 80-85%. SGFC 2IN SPEC I think is too open for my garage. That said I got 293g wet from first flush. After d&r and BW TEK there fruit is starting larger than first flush.
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ComebackKid
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Re: dumping water every 24 hrs [Re: MycoWhisper]
#24512663 - 07/27/17 07:39 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your second flush will naturally be larger than first without bottom watering but they will still benifit from more water.
SGFC are usually in the 50-60% range for humidity don't worry yourself over RH it will only cause you to do stupid things.
Also keep in mind that bottom watering is not a replacement for misting
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Re: dumping water every 24 hrs [Re: ComebackKid] 1
#24578539 - 08/25/17 08:54 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bumping this thread because it was one of the best reads I found on the subject!
Thanks for the detailed cake teks CBK.
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#24679020 - 10/02/17 06:48 PM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did this. One of the medium sized (later discovered mature) fruits got pretty slimy. Once I noticed I plucked it and threw it into the dehydrator. I think I saved it. Removed the water immediately. There was less than 10mL remaining. About 30mL went in to start.
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mrmazdarx9
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: DoDecaPus] 1
#24680221 - 10/03/17 06:21 AM (6 years, 5 months ago) |
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You need to be emptying the water once hydrated and dont leave them over 24 hours in the same water or they will get slimey
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nconn32986
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#24940366 - 01/25/18 05:40 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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awesome, thank you for this information!
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Trippin4ever
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#25037557 - 03/04/18 06:10 AM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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So when pins arrive and you begin using watering dish do you continue to mist and fan same as normal?
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK bottom watering tek [Re: Trippin4ever]
#25055244 - 03/10/18 09:08 PM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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I started this tek today due to low humidity in my room because of the heat running even with a humidifier. I flipped one of the cakes as it had a lot of fruits on the bottom of the cake. Would this be a problem for any reason? Sorry if I’m asking for info that has already been given. I read through a lot of the thread but it was getting off track so I thought I’d just ask. Thanks for any info in advance. Much appreciated
Edited by dbdb2121 (03/10/18 09:46 PM)
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nconn32986
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ComebackKid]
#25055615 - 03/11/18 05:52 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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will be doing this today.. thank you
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ninono
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: nconn32986]
#25055785 - 03/11/18 08:51 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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good luck
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SumFunGi
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: ninono]
#25653616 - 12/03/18 12:41 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Does this count as being fully colonized? And now I wait another 3-7 days for it to consolidate?
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Re: Foil VS. Lids / CBK's bottom watering tek [Re: SumFunGi]
#25653720 - 12/03/18 02:43 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes
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