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Best flavoured oysters?
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What oyster variety does everyone enjoy eating? I'm looking to grow oysters next, now that I've grown some Shiitakes.

Please elaborate on why you chose it. Any I should avoid?

Do they all have similar growth/fruiting parameters or are some harder than others?

Thanks everyone.
Favourite oyster variety
You may choose only one


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Edited by Boarders (12/02/18 12:00 AM)

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Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Boarders]
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King for cold weather.

Phoenix for warm weather. Phoenix are very tender stems and all. They don't keep very well, is the down side.


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Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Quadman]
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I find my golden oysters to be nicer than my phoenix oysters but that could be down to the culture. Together with some of the pink ones those are definitely the almost (sub)tropical summer varieties.

Overall I like kings best, they are in their own category if you ask me, if only because they are often grown for the stems not the caps. So tasty.
I like oysters but am kinda spoilt for them somehow.

The differences between regular blue / pearl oysters and summer varieties and kings is interesting I guess, but beyond that I think that the lower popularity for growing will probably skew your poll.

Kings need much less FAE which puts different requirements on your growing space.


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    • Edited by Solipsis (12/02/18 01:29 PM)

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    Thanks for the feedback. I decided on Pink, so we'll see how I go.

    I've seen people cut slots or crosses in bags for fruiting, but is there any merit in taking an entire block and sticking it in a fruiting chamber instead?

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Boarders]
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    I've got golden O going right now, about 3 weeks or so from fruiting!


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: XnMe] * 1
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    I love the pink ones!


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Boarders]
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    Boarders said:
    Thanks for the feedback. I decided on Pink, so we'll see how I go.

    I've seen people cut slots or crosses in bags for fruiting, but is there any merit in taking an entire block and sticking it in a fruiting chamber instead?


    I wouldn't do that, it seems you get better and grown out fruits if you concentrate the growth in a few spots that grow clusters. It's similar with LM i think, but not because of clusters but because it just seems better to have fewer bigger fruits than more small fruits.

    For shiitake and reishi it seems more ok to me to fruit an uncovered block. Depends on how much BE you get anyway and how many half arsed fruits you get and whether they are still pretty good.


    Anyway I can't wait to fruit some Pleurotus nebrodensis and see if they are actually even more delicious than kings.

    With pink oysters I would be interested to know whether people can taste the difference if they can't see whether they are eating pearl, phoenix or pink oysters. Of course most of us like to think we could tell the difference but it isn't really possible to discount what seeing what you are eating contributes (cf other studies/experiments about the effects of dye added to food).

    I can imagine that carotenoids in pink oysters contribute to flavor tho.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Boarders]
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    damn I am growing some oyster mycelium right now I had no idea at all how bad their spores are for you.

    I was going to try and fruit a bag or two in my house and now I'm totally rethinking this idea since reading more about how bad the spores can be.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: sh4d0ws]
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    Typically it's mostly people who work daily in big farms who can get in a lot of trouble if they're not careful is what I read, so if you fruit a bag or two you may not be at such a huge risk but on the other hand, when you do get allergic / symptomatic it sucks hard so it is still recommended to wear a mask (FFP2 works i believe but FFP3 is better iirc) and/or somehow vent the air that has the spore load.

    I only fruit a few blocks at home right now, it's in a room in my apartment I like to keep closed and the vent tube of my martha leads to right next to a central ventilation system so plenty should get sucked away.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    I have family here including a 10 year old son so I don't really wanna test it. I have central air and stuff gets circulated through the furnace where theres a filter but I still think some spores could get out. I live in the right area to grow outdoors in summer time. I might just do one bag and then move onto something safer.

    I got a few cultures from sporeworks I have lions mane and shiitake too.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: sh4d0ws]
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    All mushrooms sporulate, some more than others. Common sense approach is make sure to pick early and often before spores start. There are mold spores already in most homes. Not to minimize risk, but growing a few blocks of mushrooms indoors is not much of a concern ,in my opinion, provided you know risk and take precaution.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Quadman]
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    The spores don't get filtered unless you have a sort of HEPA filter in the ventilation used in pharmacy / sensitive electronics and mycology for a clean room.

    But as was said: I think it should be okay especially if you pick before massive spore loads and do whatever you can to contain it or vent outside somehow.. It shouldn't be a very significant amount of spores from 2 blocks.

    Pick the whole cluster when or before one of the caps in that cluster is in a horizontal position and about to curl up slightly rather than down.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    Pinks and Blues are supremely easy to grow(very quick to colonize and fruit, wide temperature ranges for fruiting, pretty resistant to contam because of how quickly they grow).
    The Blues and Kings taste best, as far as I'm concerned. The kings you can easily prepare and eat the entire fruiting body, stem and all, on the other varieties the stems can tend to be tougher and not too suitable for cooking (but you can dehydrate those and grind them up for seasoning or as a gravy powder).
    The pink oysters fry up really crispy because they're really light bodied, and when you dehydrate them they smell like peppered crawfish (ground up makes a badass seafood broth or gumbo flavoring)

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: TrichoMycoAllDay]
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    I haven't tasted any of my own yet as I just started growing them. I have 4 jar of rye that are inoculated. 2 are Blue brats and the other 2 are Phoenix. Already just in 48 hours I see mycelial growth in the Phoenix jars. But I'm aware that the blues take a little longer to colonize through my research. I also have 3 5 gallon buckets that are incubating that I used premade 3015 spawn to nocc them up. Excited to see how those turn out as I've heard good things. No contams so far! Wish me luck and best of luck to you!


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    Edited by Jooceman (12/30/18 11:26 AM)

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: sh4d0ws]
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    I built a tent for myself and its airtight. The air vents outside to keep the spores out of the house just in case I harvest them too late. You could give it a try. I built my greenhouse for less than $200 bucks. The dimensions are 6ft x 4ft x 45 inches and it can hold 6 stacks of 3 5 gallon buckets at one time. Cheers and best of luck with whatever you decide you want to do!

    P.S. I have a newborn on the way as well so I wanted to make sure that I covered all my bases as well! I think its going to work :eek:


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Jooceman]
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    Off topic but blues are just a variety of Pleurotus ostreatus right? I'm just starting out and see a lot of diff names for Pleurotus ostreatus but mostly only 1-2 for the other most common ones

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: seussiii]
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    I think so:
    P. ostreatus var. columbinus

    Anyway P. ostreatus seems to come in varieties that range from blue to (usually) grey looking and not sure how much of a role substrate plays.

    Regular oysters are very commonly cultivated and eaten and as such they have among the most trivial names and also existing varieties and cultivars which is not related to the names.


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: seussiii]
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    I'm new as well so I don't have all the answers but the strain of blues I have are known as blue brats. They're a warmer variety of blues that I got labeled as pleurotus ostreatus? Like 10-20 degrees warmer than the columbinus. The other variety, columbinus, is a colder variety I believe but I may be wrong. Like Sol said above me, I believe the term columbinus is just widely used to name a sub species of blue oysters.

    Edited by Jooceman (12/30/18 11:35 AM)

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Jooceman]
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    Jooceman said:
    I'm new as well so I don't have all the answers but the strain of blues I have are known as blue brats. They're a warmer variety of blues that I got labeled as pleurotus ostreatus? Like 10-20 degrees warmer than the columbinus. The other variety, columbinus, is a colder variety I believe but I may be wrong. Like Sol said above me, I believe the term columbinus is just widely used to name a sub species of blue oysters.



    ahh rgr. that makes sense

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: seussiii]
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    Am I right to think that there are warm and cold fruiting varieties of 'blue' varieties? I guess so, reading what Jooceman posted..

    It does seem like the blue columbinus variety is typically a cold fruiting one but idk.

    What's weird is that columbinus is classified in the pulmonarius clade, a grouping of Pleurotus:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleurotus#Phylogenetic_species

    But I don't understand why it's still called P. ostreatus var. columbinus (or of course P. columbinus). It seems like that might be wrong? https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/48/050/48050430.pdf

    I think usually blue oysters start out a nice blue hue but as they develop turn grey.. Others may be more pale.


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    • Edited by Solipsis (12/31/18 04:31 AM)

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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    I think you're onto something... From my reading I've realized that a lot of the scientists don't really know where to classify the species because they're all so closely related with minute differences. I think it boils down to the scientists or hobbyists not really know whats up with some liking it hot and some liking it cold, but they're relatively the same. lol

    That happens with a lot of oyster species, P Stamets talks about it in one of his books.:shrug:


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Jooceman]
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    Sure, there used to be a lot more "oyster" species which are now classified in entirely different genera but still carry some oyster related trivial names (it tends to take a while before people start using different names and apparently sometimes that never happens lol. It doesn't seem like people are gonna stop using "Trichocereus" any time soon haha, not to mention trivial names.

    With particularly some families of mushroom species it seems there is a lot of debate about how to classify and name fungus species and whether it is enough to say they are different if they merely grow on different species of trees.
    I would argue in more subtle cases you would want to want to get subspecific.

    I think genetic testing can now be a more convincing method and I wonder if over time we could narrow down on ways of naming species which could perhaps follow less subjective/arbitrary rules than in the past. It seems that these clades are already showing groupings of ones that are alike, at least genetically.
    One question to ask I guess is whether we are more interested in how a species evolved from others or how it might have adapted to different conditions, possibly in not all that long in terms of evolutionary timescale. Or in other words interest in heritage/history or more pragmatically in the now.

    So maybe despite it's best to set a certain threshold for genetic differences: if they are too subtle and few we might wanna focus on growth, appearance etc etc a lot more... but if the genetics are too telling it is probably smart to put that in the taxonomical naming because even though the fungus might look a lot like something else, that could just be convergent evolution, right?


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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    While strain or species does affect taste, I think the growing environment affects it even more.  Oysters grown in cool temps with high light and ample supplementation give the best flavors.





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    Re: Best flavoured oysters? [Re: Solipsis]
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    I would agree with pretty much everything you said. I think you broke it down a lot better than me haha. But that is exactly how I feel. I think fungus just evolve so fast compared to other living organisms so it's hard to track the differences. They seem to love adapting otherwise we wouldn't have them growing in 100 degree weather and other ones growing in the snow lol. It's wild how many different varietys there are of one basic mushroom, blows my mind


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