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Salvia is fucked up,
#25649920 - 12/01/18 05:35 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's been 10 years since I did Salvia and it still fucks with me remembering it to this day, I still don't know if I might all the sudden snap back and it be 2006 and I am going to just be sitting there in my teens and going, wtf that was the trip? its been years how am I here.
How do you know the trip is actually over? You can't. It might still be going on now and you wouldn't know the difference, you might still be sitting there thinking help help and have no idea.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#25649925 - 12/01/18 05:39 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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budmanman said: It's been 10 years since I did Salvia and it still fucks with me remembering it to this day, I still don't know if I might all the sudden snap back and it be 2006 and I am going to just be sitting there in my teens and going, wtf that was the trip? its been years how am I here.
How do you know the trip is actually over? You can't. It might still be going on now and you wouldn't know the difference, you might still be sitting there thinking help help and have no idea.
I've read a lot of salvia posts and they all have had me conclude that it is not worth using. There are many better substances to use than such a wacky dissasociative
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Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: SnowGypsy]
#25650004 - 12/01/18 06:46 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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SnowGypsy said: Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
Lol. How is it traditionally used?
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Straight Mush said:
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SnowGypsy said: Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
Lol. How is it traditionally used?
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Salvia has its place. Its just not a fun recreational drug. But if ur looking for some wierdness, its probly the safest drug for it. Atleast it only lasts 10 minutes. And salvia can put u in places hallucinogens cant.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nube424]
#25650241 - 12/01/18 09:16 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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you are one of many who report this about salvia. stay away from it mkay if you dont enjoy the pain.
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Mushrooms can cause much more panic than salvia. And ive felt plenty pain on acid. They all have their downs. But if u use it in the right way it can be enjoyable once in awhile.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nube424]
#25650410 - 12/01/18 10:56 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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i never fully broke through the two times i smoked extract, the first was like every time i had been high before all combined into one and was very uncomfortable, couch lock and drool. the second time was lighter and much better, was watching trees sway in the breeze and it all felt right.
would be interested in exploring again in the right setting with the right people but odds are against that.
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A big hit of 10x or a small to medium hit of 20x is usually a good amount.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nube424]
#25650565 - 12/01/18 12:14 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I had a few months, about 12 years ago, where I did salvia every day - upping to 10x, 20x, 40x over that period.
In the end I completely lost it, shadow creatures watching me from the corners of the room and I tried to climb out of a window (luckily had sitters, always).
I witnessed a guy jump in to the middle of a massive fire and stand there laughing until he was kicked out (and subsequently, put out).
It's some serious shit, even with all I have learned since with dmt and mescaline and psilo...I don't think I'll go back to that place.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#25650994 - 12/01/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I did Salvia (5x) after several years of sobriety. It gave me an afterglow where my thought was completely subdued and I could just relax in the present moment.
I did it a few more times after that and it was just weird.
I don't like the gross, sweaty, pins and needles feeling.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: SnowGypsy] 1
#25651172 - 12/01/18 06:04 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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SnowGypsy said: Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
There may actually be something to the notion that either quids or tinctures provide a proper dose.
Salvia does seem to show that the human perception of "reality" is totally a construct of the brain. Yes there is something 'out there' (& inside), and yes the representation we have works well enough for survival. But our senses are crude, and the brain uses them to create a simulation we take to be accurate; but of course it is not. We don't see atoms or understand the quantum world or the nature of self, etc.
Salvia is able to take the entire 'simulation generator', and do what it wants with it, within seconds.
Ross Heaven's book: "Shamanic Quest for the Spirit of Salvia: The Divinatory, Visionary, and Healing Powers of the Sage of the Seers" may be useful. The Amazon page with this book also has others of possible interest.
Some very nice Salvia art here: http://www.zensages.com/
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Hamilton's Pharmacopeia has an episode on salvia. Here's the ceremony part
Mckenna talked about putting as much leaf into your mouth as you could fit, holding it for 15 or something n spitting it out.
I smoked some a few years back, 10x, and the only proper breakthrough experience required too much to smoke imo. especially since you'd want to hold it in for as long as possible, so if i'd want to get back into it i'd get 20x. I had plenty of times though where when i breathed it out, i'd get get kind of pins and needles simultaneously starting from my mouth spreading to enwrap my whole body. Lines with spaces in between(- - - - -) spreading to cover the body accompanying the feeling. It's like a massive weight pushing down on you, body high is strong. As soon as i remembered to lie down it was always good though one time felt this enormous chasm splitting through me. For me salvia was a purely closed eye thing
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: SnowGypsy]
#25651790 - 12/02/18 03:57 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP that's a bit of a mindfuck huh! Others thanks for the vid, interesting, and artwork. Some of its terrifying.
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If salvia is smoked in respects to the plant, your settings, your mindset, and your intent, you have beautiful experiences. After all my experience with it, I believe your inner values play a huge role in your salvia "trip". I noticed that people who were known to be on the more negative side of things and darker people had way more uncomfortable experiences....they were also always just trying to get high.
I've smoked salvia amidst high dose mushroom trips and acid trips and it's never ever been a bad time because I prepare for chaos and embrace it. I get what OP is saying though. I remember once I smoked it inside of a small walk in closet and suddenly I got sucked through a void and I turned into a park bench made of the universe. Out of no where two gnomes/elves were sitting on me discussing the universe in another language....I couldn't decipher the language but I knew what they were discussing. It felt like it was eternity. I remember getting to a point of acceptance that I was never going to be anything in life but a park bench....then I snapped back into the brain I forgot about and literally jumped up babbling incoherent madness and ran to fresh air.
I could go on for hours and hours about salvia experiences. but out of the hundreds of times I've smoked it and seen it smoked, I would say more good times than bad....depending on what you define as good and bad.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: vandago]
#25652452 - 12/02/18 12:35 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I quite enjoyed my experiences with a Salvia tincture, I haven't smoked it yet but sublingually it reminded me of dissociative mushrooms.
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.I remember once I smoked it inside of a small walk in closet and suddenly I got sucked through a void and I turned into a park bench made of the universe. Out of no where two gnomes/elves were sitting on me discussing the universe in another language....I couldn't decipher the language but I knew what they were discussing. It felt like it was eternity. I remember getting to a point of acceptance that I was never going to be anything in life but a park bench....then I snapped back into the brain I forgot about and literally jumped up babbling incoherent madness and ran to fresh air.
Haha what were they saying?
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: sui]
#25653707 - 12/03/18 02:22 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha I'd really like to know too.
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Straight Mush said: I've read a lot of salvia posts and they all have had me conclude that it is not worth using. There are many better substances to use than such a wacky dissasociative
It's definitely worth using, but especially via sublingual/quid methods. Much more mellow, and you don't have to worry about being stuck in a years-long trip. It's very useful for personal growth sublingually.
And you don't need to stuff your mouth full of leaves McKenna-style. Just rehydrate a couple 1-gram balls of dried leaf, squeeze the water out, then chew 1 gram at a time. Chew consistently and swish the juice around, but try not to swallow any. The swishing helps the absorption through your gums/cheeks.
If you're familiar with the Salvia space from smoking, you'll know once you're 'there' while chewing. It's more subtle, so it helps to be in darkness or have an eye mask or beanie pulled over your eyes to notice the first effects.
After 10 minutes or so, if you're not 'there' yet, you can spit out the initial stuff that's left and add a second 1-gram ball. One gram is small enough to fit into one cheek, so it's pretty easy to do 2 at a time as well. After a few tries, you'll find the minimum amount you need. I use 0.8g each time, as it consistently gets me 'out of body' so to speak, but some people need several grams. More just extends the trip but doesn't make it much deeper.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: sui]
#25655516 - 12/03/18 07:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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sui said:
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.I remember once I smoked it inside of a small walk in closet and suddenly I got sucked through a void and I turned into a park bench made of the universe. Out of no where two gnomes/elves were sitting on me discussing the universe in another language....I couldn't decipher the language but I knew what they were discussing. It felt like it was eternity. I remember getting to a point of acceptance that I was never going to be anything in life but a park bench....then I snapped back into the brain I forgot about and literally jumped up babbling incoherent madness and ran to fresh air.
Haha what were they saying?
All I could hear was jibberish, and they were complete abstarct geometric gnomes both smoking these elaborate pipes. The entire scene was like a Van Gogh painting almost. I could only perceive their conversation as a long winded discussion about every single way the universe could ever be. As in any perception of a universe or a universe within. It was fuckin mind numbing to continue to think about larger universes unfolding out of smaller ones based on the perceptions and "rules" of the new universe.
Between both of them on my back plus the weight of the universe, I could say I was extremely glad to return to the closet in which I came.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: vandago]
#25655523 - 12/03/18 08:01 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mind you salvia was lackluster at times....terrifying at times...confusing at times....mainly for me it was a mild pulling sensation and very 2d esq visuals/
To achieve the break through seemed to be very random. I'd only get one maybe one out of ten times....but I do recall reading salvia has a reverse tolerance so perhaps the more I smoked it the more it got intense for me. I do believe the gnome park bench fiasco was later down the road in my salvia endeavors/
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: vandago] 1
#25655529 - 12/03/18 08:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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vandago said: The entire scene was like a Van Gogh painting almost.
This is common.
One reason why the guy is brilliant.
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This video at 8 minutes and 40 seconds animates almost exactly what it is like to be on salvia, I mean you can't actually animate it like it really is obviously but this is damn close.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#27241236 - 03/06/21 11:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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How would you even take this drug? Seems like you could destroy a lot of stuff or hurt yourself. Maybe that's just if you take way too much?
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#27241237 - 03/06/21 11:46 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’ve not had one that worked like that other than the imminent death feeling, that’s hella familiar.
You know, as time has gone on and I’ve had a lot of sober time etc, as I think back I think I blacked out a lot of my experiences. I think I remember it all but there’s missing scenes that get triggered and the familiarity comes back. It took years for me to realize but... I don’t know, something to think about. Dmt and amnesia are a thing, pretty common, I think salvia may have it too but in a more secretive/hard to notice sort of way.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: jdawg333]
#27241240 - 03/06/21 11:49 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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jdawg333 said: How would you even take this drug? Seems like you could destroy a lot of stuff or hurt yourself. Maybe that's just if you take way too much?
Start slow and have a sitter who knows what to possibly expect and how to de-escalate. Like you said, it’s when people take too much (especially extract) that trouble begins...
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Amanita86]
#27241303 - 03/07/21 01:20 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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yup he smoked too big a hit
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If you don't take too big of a hit are you really doing it though?
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#27241716 - 03/07/21 10:39 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you don't drive too fast are you really using a car?
the quantity you take is the last dimension you are in control of, after that, goodbye charlie.
I recommend titrating up and seeing what you like and sticking with that, this is not like a game of roulette.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nube424]
#27245009 - 03/09/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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nube424 said: A big hit of 10x or a small to medium hit of 20x is usually a good amount.
Or a big hit of 60x - I think I have a high tolerance to Salvia... But if I toke very well, then it seems as if part of the trip was wiped off my memory and I remember from the moment it starts coming down. I don't really know what happened to my mind and what did I experience on a handful of occasions.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban] 2
#27245031 - 03/09/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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that amnesia thing means you took too much
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27245063 - 03/09/21 01:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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laughingdog said:
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SnowGypsy said:
Salvia does seem to show that the human perception of "reality" is totally a construct of the brain. [/url]
Very well said. This is one of the conclusions that one may have from a Salvia trip. Now that I haven't done it for 5 or 6 years, I can see that I still learn to understand the experiences. I don't really need to do it again to learn more. All it takes is to come to new conclusions about the experiences I had in the past.
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redgreenvines said: that amnesia thing means you took too much
Possibly. Things I experienced on a tail end of it were very intense and stuck with me forever.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27245278 - 03/09/21 03:40 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salvia is fucked up. -Yes, yes it is.
Tried it once, did not enjoy.
1/10 do not recommend.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: NachoLibre]
#27245542 - 03/09/21 07:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah that is a pretty good description
the best way to take it is by chewing some leaves. extract is crazy, but not fun
i think salvia is interesting, but that doesnt mean that its not totally terrifying (extract anyways)
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Big_Dub] 1
#27245597 - 03/09/21 07:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salvia never fails to produce the truly downright strangest and...I can’t even put a word to it...optical illusions and downright funny / strange hallucinations.
Certainly reinforces that whatever “reality” is and what the brain perceives as reality is an interdependent & ongoing act of co-mutual creation...subject to some very strange changes. I’ve had “impossible experiences” with classical psychedelics...but with salvia some of my experiences have been straight hinky...to name just a few...
Ie - seeing a friends arm wrapped several times around a small tree...inspecting it and magically watching it vanish back to normal after checking it over 6-7 times .
Running in place...on a sidewalk...as if it was a treadmill. The more I ran the faster I got nowhere. Makes me wonder what I looked like to an outside observer.
Becoming strange inanimate objects...not the classical LsD orange juice thing...but close....like...a washing machine ( that happened in the middle of the woods).
Other experience has been a bit closer to classical psychedelic experiences in natur - but still with its own twist.
It’s like the weird uncle of psych experiences. I value it
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you can dose strong but not to amnesia two small portions from amnesia
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando]
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one portion from amnesia is like you are wild in the head what is going on and so on two parts is wow this is strong lots of fractals cool and lovely high it is enjoyable and you are intact and not messed up and blissed and infinitiesed plain leaf is strong enough but it is not like we say we can do anything and dose any dose you don't go over board you just don't go wicked out
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando]
#27245999 - 03/10/21 02:25 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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but yeah titrate up a good way is to dilute with tobacco with extract you eyeball it or weigh use small amount and you take a puff and you see what effect that has and where it takes you a careful joint like this and slow smoking and you won't get into trouble  then if it has to be stronger you use more but still smoke slowly
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#27246019 - 03/10/21 03:07 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I did it once (technically multiple times over ONE DAY to use it all up, and that was it), and it did absolutely nothing until I finished off the remaining 10X with a single big bowl rip. That did the trick. My hair felt like it was made of ice cream as it slid off my head, and all the walls and furniture shot outward like I was going into Time Machine mode on my Mac.
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plain leaf smoked in a pipe makes me think of the caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland. gentle lazy and nutty without physical tics.
I have enjoyed it alone and with people.
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I could never enjoy smoking Salvia with other people really. Everyone I smoked with had a different view on this. I could not stand hearing primitive comments whilst tripping or directly after, e.g. "he got fucked" "this shit is..." or stupidly laughing because someone who smoked is acting weirdly.
So I stopped doing it with other people and just did it by myself.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban] 1
#27246267 - 03/10/21 08:17 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: one terrific lesson is not to take oneself too seriously. another is not to dose too heavily.
Yup.
Also, shut up and zip. Never stop zipping.
God damn salvia memories are like a thorn in your paw with a pain that echos through time.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Faustoid]
#27246568 - 03/10/21 11:31 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh yeah that's a great idea I'm thinking of putting some extract in for extra enhancement and fun and psychedelic
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando]
#27246569 - 03/10/21 11:32 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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im a more hardhead than you twice but it would be enjoayble even half as strong even a tenth as strong
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando] 1
#27246583 - 03/10/21 11:40 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I found a place where one can buy half a kilo plain leaf for almost no money you find it almost immediately if you search buy salvia divinorum master card that puts you in a category of people who have grown it for years
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#27248232 - 03/11/21 12:45 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take iboga, it will cure you.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#28275231 - 04/12/23 11:59 PM (9 months, 11 days ago) |
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budmanman said: This video at 8 minutes and 40 seconds animates almost exactly what it is like to be on salvia, I mean you can't actually animate it like it really is obviously but this is damn close.
Good thing I posted this here cause this video is hard to find and the only accurate imagery if what a Salvia trip is like.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#28275509 - 04/13/23 07:21 AM (9 months, 11 days ago) |
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yes quite a good video too bad he took too much and had to spend time flipping around on the floor in such an undignified way, but his descriptions are excellent, and the low budget lego world video layering effects and descriptions are very very good.
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redgreenvines said: yes quite a good video too bad he took too much and had to spend time flipping around on the floor in such an undignified way, but his descriptions are excellent, and the low budget lego world video layering effects and descriptions are very very good.
Salvia is one of the few things I've never tried. I watched the video, is this sensation/hallucination a common thing on salvia? Sounds wild.
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when the dose is high, the feedback is tremendous, and movements may cascade through multiple triggers and efforts to not move, the stack of overlapped frames of mental contents can be 30 layers deep. I find that pretty uncomfortable and it almost happens to me 1 time in 5 as I dose close to my max, and sometimes a tiny bit too much.
this helps with any tendency to too much pride.
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redgreenvines said: yes quite a good video too bad he took too much and had to spend time flipping around on the floor in such an undignified way, but his descriptions are excellent, and the low budget lego world video layering effects and descriptions are very very good.
Salvia is one of the few things I've never tried. I watched the video, is this sensation/hallucination a common thing on salvia? Sounds wild.
It only does it if you break through, almost no visuals at all if you do not break through.
It is terrifying shit.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#28276090 - 04/13/23 03:40 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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budmanman said: This video at 8 minutes and 40 seconds animates almost exactly what it is like to be on salvia, I mean you can't actually animate it like it really is obviously but this is damn close.
Good thing I posted this here cause this video is hard to find and the only accurate imagery if what a Salvia trip is like.
There’s another effect that I got on salvia that was caught in a movie perfectly. In the movie Lemony Snicket with Jim Carrey right when the credits roll the “curtain” lifts up real slow like you’re in a theatre. I took a gravity bong hit of some plain leaf layed down and covered my eyes and the little dudes just outside your peripheral walked in view and said “let’s wrap this up” and my whole reality rolled up like that theater curtain. I’ll see if I can find a clip.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#28276097 - 04/13/23 03:43 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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I get visuals all the time on salvia, in the least case I note that every surface is covered in scales ( like a reptile ) when it is stronger, each scale is a room or a balcony holding people or icons or gateways to a whole 'nother universe.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#28276340 - 04/13/23 06:42 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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I couldn't see when I did it, my vision was entirely taken over by hallucination, and so was my mind and perception of the world.
Not anything cool hallucination wise either, just plain blocky color at first, then chaos with no order, the feeling that there was an audience behind me clapping and it kinda felt like watching the price is right when you're sick, then some really bizarre hallucination about being grass that was growing, then I saw my girlfriend at the time and she was in a painting hung above a staircase, and she was screaming "I'm stuck in a painting" or something like that, she was crying out for help. My whole world, perception and knowledge shrank down to just what I was experiencing, like the world curled up in on itself and became miniscule, just what I was seeing and nothing else.
The whole thing was deeply unpleasant, bad feeling, confusing, and disturbing. The other experiences I had with salvia were similar, but not nearly as intense.
I had bad deja vu and occasional feelings like the world would suddenly curl up in on itself for several months after or maybe a year after.
When the world would curl up or shrink like that, there was this awful feeling of claustrophobia that was physically sickening and disturbing, I can't explain.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nooneman]
#28276433 - 04/13/23 07:33 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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typical for too much, i only went that far a few times out of thousands of short sessions, most of which were good for me.
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If you just smoke a little bit it kinda feel like your Velcro and you stick to the couch or chair. Kinda like pins and needles but not the good kind of pins and needles.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Enjoil]
#28276548 - 04/13/23 08:45 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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yeah but those transform into scales. but you are right.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: SnowGypsy] 1
#28276570 - 04/13/23 09:00 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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SnowGypsy said: Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
One time when quidding some leaves, I got visited by a green skinned goddess. She mentioned among other things that she didn't like getting too hot and was happy I had not burned her
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Mike4aco] 1
#28276598 - 04/13/23 09:30 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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Absolutely love getting destroyed in a salvia trip. Leave reason and structure far behind. The absolute scrambling of consciousness.
I love the lego video. I likened the experience to a VCR with bad tracking but the video description put it so much more accurately.
One time, the groceries took me to the store. I love salvia.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Orioncat] 2
#28276663 - 04/13/23 10:54 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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Salvia is one of those drugs so powerful and world destroying that it can completely sober you up from wanting to do drugs, it’s insanity to its absolute. I’ve done lots of psychedelics, and nothing has ever been so reality breaking as a massive bong rip of 40x salvia extract. I’m curious what’s it like now after so much time has passed but if you’re wanting to experiment with it, I would recommend to start small and increase over time. It’s possible the ideal way to take it, is passive oral absorption.
Kids, don’t be reckless with salvia, it can be unbearably frightening and emotionally devastating. Having a good attitude/philosophy can help the experience so maybe I’m biased because I was only a teenager when my peak experience happened and I certainly was not as emotionally intelligent as I probably ought to have been to have a good experience with salvia. Tread carefully.
Good luck regardless!
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Harri]
#28277527 - 04/14/23 02:22 PM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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I smoked it in high school a few times and I remember I was on a flying couch with a face soaring over the ocean. I came out of my trip just in time to be able to talk to my arriving parents and pass as sober.
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Lmao, the first time my buddies and I tried it was the 50x and out the bong. I went first and only smoked a little pinch(way 2much) and my head fell back and I was gone I don’t remember what happened but it was kinda like passing out. The first thing I remember was my friends laughing at me, they said I went retarded…idk but I was gonzo, no visuals because I think I was just teleported somewhere and I don’t remember… it was wild!
I packed the bong for my buddy about the same amount and he hit it and was holding it in, I took the bong from him, he let out the smoke as his eyes rolled into the back of his head and face plants into the floor! Bam. When he woke up he was just laughing hysterically for 2-3 minutes. He was stuck to the ground and said puddles were everywhere and they will suck you up. Lol
A few days later we gave a bong rip to my Mexican cat and he just bolted out the door! Came back 30 mins later asking me if I gave him acid. I told him it was some other shit but he still wanted to hit it so we let him…
It definitely has different effects for lots of people. I had a buddy that talked about different plateaus and there’s supposedly nine different ones you can hit depending on dose and ROA…he smoked it more than he smoked weed.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Amanita86]
#28285991 - 04/19/23 07:56 PM (9 months, 4 days ago) |
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budmanman said: This video at 8 minutes and 40 seconds animates almost exactly what it is like to be on salvia, I mean you can't actually animate it like it really is obviously but this is damn close.
little dudes just outside your peripheral walked in view and said “let’s wrap this up” and my whole reality rolled up like that theater curtain. I’ll see if I can find a clip.
There was a time I smoked it with a friend as we walked along a country road in an old forest that was blanketed with thick layer of snow. As we walked along, everything behind me was rolling up like a carpet. I could hear the huge snowball sound of rolling snow behind me. All the trees in front of me were "preparing" to get rolled up by moving their branches down and back, as if they were aware of what was inevitably about to happen to them.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Mike4aco]
#28285997 - 04/19/23 08:03 PM (9 months, 4 days ago) |
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SnowGypsy said: Since it's traditionally not smoked some people say that the salvia spirit is punishing you for smoking it. 'Why are you smoking me?'. lol
One time when quidding some leaves, I got visited by a green skinned goddess. She mentioned among other things that she didn't like getting too hot and was happy I had not burned her
I had the green skinned female entity encounter too. That trip stuck with me for 5 years. Could not stop thinking about it.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Orioncat]
#28286000 - 04/19/23 08:07 PM (9 months, 4 days ago) |
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Orioncat said: Absolutely love getting destroyed in a salvia trip. Leave reason and structure far behind. The absolute scrambling of consciousness.
I love the lego video. I likened the experience to a VCR with bad tracking but the video description put it so much more accurately.
One time, the groceries took me to the store. I love salvia.
Did you ever have that kind of trip when you become something else and it feels overwhelmingly convincing? To the point that it makes you realise how it feels to be a different form or an object? I heard other people describe this but it sounded somewhat trivial until I experienced myself and realised how profound this can be.
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Not so much another object but rather I became everything around me, the very fabric of space and time. The realization that I am just as much a chemical part of this universe like any other conglomeration of atoms... that wasn't on salvia though. I don't know what I've become on salvia but it wasn't poetic I can tell you that 🤣. Just absolutely batshit wacko. I love it.
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Orioncat said: Absolutely love getting destroyed in a salvia trip. Leave reason and structure far behind. The absolute scrambling of consciousness.
I love the lego video. I likened the experience to a VCR with bad tracking but the video description put it so much more accurately.
One time, the groceries took me to the store. I love salvia.
Did you ever have that kind of trip when you become something else and it feels overwhelmingly convincing? To the point that it makes you realise how it feels to be a different form or an object? I heard other people describe this but it sounded somewhat trivial until I experienced myself and realised how profound this can be.
Usually I become something or everything in the room it is such an interesting and alien feeling
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#28610150 - 01/05/24 05:43 AM (23 days, 2 hours ago) |
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not bad
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#28610216 - 01/05/24 07:48 AM (23 days, 48 minutes ago) |
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Agreed abt,salvia
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