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vandago



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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: sui]
#25655516 - 12/03/18 07:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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.I remember once I smoked it inside of a small walk in closet and suddenly I got sucked through a void and I turned into a park bench made of the universe. Out of no where two gnomes/elves were sitting on me discussing the universe in another language....I couldn't decipher the language but I knew what they were discussing. It felt like it was eternity. I remember getting to a point of acceptance that I was never going to be anything in life but a park bench....then I snapped back into the brain I forgot about and literally jumped up babbling incoherent madness and ran to fresh air.
Haha what were they saying?
All I could hear was jibberish, and they were complete abstarct geometric gnomes both smoking these elaborate pipes. The entire scene was like a Van Gogh painting almost. I could only perceive their conversation as a long winded discussion about every single way the universe could ever be. As in any perception of a universe or a universe within. It was fuckin mind numbing to continue to think about larger universes unfolding out of smaller ones based on the perceptions and "rules" of the new universe.
Between both of them on my back plus the weight of the universe, I could say I was extremely glad to return to the closet in which I came.
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vandago



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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: vandago]
#25655523 - 12/03/18 08:01 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mind you salvia was lackluster at times....terrifying at times...confusing at times....mainly for me it was a mild pulling sensation and very 2d esq visuals/
To achieve the break through seemed to be very random. I'd only get one maybe one out of ten times....but I do recall reading salvia has a reverse tolerance so perhaps the more I smoked it the more it got intense for me. I do believe the gnome park bench fiasco was later down the road in my salvia endeavors/
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: vandago] 1
#25655529 - 12/03/18 08:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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vandago said: The entire scene was like a Van Gogh painting almost.
This is common.
One reason why the guy is brilliant.
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budmanman
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This video at 8 minutes and 40 seconds animates almost exactly what it is like to be on salvia, I mean you can't actually animate it like it really is obviously but this is damn close.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman]
#27241236 - 03/06/21 11:44 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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How would you even take this drug? Seems like you could destroy a lot of stuff or hurt yourself. Maybe that's just if you take way too much?
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#27241237 - 03/06/21 11:46 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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I’ve not had one that worked like that other than the imminent death feeling, that’s hella familiar.
You know, as time has gone on and I’ve had a lot of sober time etc, as I think back I think I blacked out a lot of my experiences. I think I remember it all but there’s missing scenes that get triggered and the familiarity comes back. It took years for me to realize but... I don’t know, something to think about. Dmt and amnesia are a thing, pretty common, I think salvia may have it too but in a more secretive/hard to notice sort of way.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: jdawg333]
#27241240 - 03/06/21 11:49 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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jdawg333 said: How would you even take this drug? Seems like you could destroy a lot of stuff or hurt yourself. Maybe that's just if you take way too much?
Start slow and have a sitter who knows what to possibly expect and how to de-escalate. Like you said, it’s when people take too much (especially extract) that trouble begins...
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redgreenvines
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Amanita86]
#27241303 - 03/07/21 01:20 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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yup he smoked too big a hit
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budmanman
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If you don't take too big of a hit are you really doing it though?
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redgreenvines
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: budmanman] 1
#27241716 - 03/07/21 10:39 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you don't drive too fast are you really using a car?
the quantity you take is the last dimension you are in control of, after that, goodbye charlie.
I recommend titrating up and seeing what you like and sticking with that, this is not like a game of roulette.
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Dr. Delban
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: nube424]
#27245009 - 03/09/21 01:12 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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nube424 said: A big hit of 10x or a small to medium hit of 20x is usually a good amount.
Or a big hit of 60x - I think I have a high tolerance to Salvia... But if I toke very well, then it seems as if part of the trip was wiped off my memory and I remember from the moment it starts coming down. I don't really know what happened to my mind and what did I experience on a handful of occasions.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban] 2
#27245031 - 03/09/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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that amnesia thing means you took too much
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Dr. Delban
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27245063 - 03/09/21 01:48 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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SnowGypsy said:
Salvia does seem to show that the human perception of "reality" is totally a construct of the brain. [/url]
Very well said. This is one of the conclusions that one may have from a Salvia trip. Now that I haven't done it for 5 or 6 years, I can see that I still learn to understand the experiences. I don't really need to do it again to learn more. All it takes is to come to new conclusions about the experiences I had in the past.
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Dr. Delban
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redgreenvines said: that amnesia thing means you took too much
Possibly. Things I experienced on a tail end of it were very intense and stuck with me forever.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Dr. Delban]
#27245278 - 03/09/21 03:40 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salvia is fucked up. -Yes, yes it is.
Tried it once, did not enjoy.
1/10 do not recommend.
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: NachoLibre]
#27245542 - 03/09/21 07:08 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah that is a pretty good description
the best way to take it is by chewing some leaves. extract is crazy, but not fun
i think salvia is interesting, but that doesnt mean that its not totally terrifying (extract anyways)
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Big_Dub] 1
#27245597 - 03/09/21 07:50 PM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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Salvia never fails to produce the truly downright strangest and...I can’t even put a word to it...optical illusions and downright funny / strange hallucinations.
Certainly reinforces that whatever “reality” is and what the brain perceives as reality is an interdependent & ongoing act of co-mutual creation...subject to some very strange changes. I’ve had “impossible experiences” with classical psychedelics...but with salvia some of my experiences have been straight hinky...to name just a few...
Ie - seeing a friends arm wrapped several times around a small tree...inspecting it and magically watching it vanish back to normal after checking it over 6-7 times .
Running in place...on a sidewalk...as if it was a treadmill. The more I ran the faster I got nowhere. Makes me wonder what I looked like to an outside observer.
Becoming strange inanimate objects...not the classical LsD orange juice thing...but close....like...a washing machine ( that happened in the middle of the woods).
Other experience has been a bit closer to classical psychedelic experiences in natur - but still with its own twist.
It’s like the weird uncle of psych experiences. I value it
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Ferdinando


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you can dose strong but not to amnesia two small portions from amnesia
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Ferdinando


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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando]
#27245990 - 03/10/21 02:16 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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one portion from amnesia is like you are wild in the head what is going on and so on two parts is wow this is strong lots of fractals cool and lovely high it is enjoyable and you are intact and not messed up and blissed and infinitiesed plain leaf is strong enough but it is not like we say we can do anything and dose any dose you don't go over board you just don't go wicked out
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Re: Salvia is fucked up, [Re: Ferdinando]
#27245999 - 03/10/21 02:25 AM (2 years, 10 months ago) |
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but yeah titrate up a good way is to dilute with tobacco with extract you eyeball it or weigh use small amount and you take a puff and you see what effect that has and where it takes you a careful joint like this and slow smoking and you won't get into trouble  then if it has to be stronger you use more but still smoke slowly
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