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[URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high?
    #25631314 - 11/21/18 11:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Yesterday I ran dry so this time around I'm trying to dial the Presto in

Here we are underway right now:

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Am I driving it too hard?

Here's another one showing steam from the TOP valve:

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If I turn it down less than this, it drops below 15 psi.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631332 - 11/22/18 12:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

go by the rocker not the gauge. it should gently rock once or twice a minute.


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631333 - 11/22/18 12:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Cound not access the links.

Did you put at least 3L wet substance in the PC before running? How could it run dry on you, during what time frame?

So you have the 'pressure indicator' which is the aluminium button that pops up when some initial pressure builds up inside. When this button pops up you can start a 10 min countdown and wait until your PC has ventilated out most of the air trapped inside. Less air in PC = hotter water wapor = more effective sterilisation cycle :thumbup:

Rocker goes on last after sufficient ventilation is achieved. Pressure will keep building as long as your heat source is on max. Depending on what heat source you have you can lower the heat by 20-40% of max effect to stabilise pressure (the rocker will stabilise pressure more exactly) but reducing heat stops the pressure from building up too fast.


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: JHOVA]
    #25631342 - 11/22/18 12:26 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

OK, thanks, the rocker is pretty much jiggling constantly for me.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631345 - 11/22/18 12:29 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

4 litres this time.

Yesterday was 3 litres and ran dry at about 75 mins.

I'm relying on the gauge and trying to stay at 15 psi.

I vented for 10 mins before adding the weight but the TOP valve is pretty much venting steam constantly.

I can turn it down but the gauge drops to about 12 psi then.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631380 - 11/22/18 01:00 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

If the "TOP" is venting constantly then it's a malfunction. It's not supposed to vent when pressure starts to build.

Are you saying that "TOP" is venting steam even tho 15  PSI pressure is reached?


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631391 - 11/22/18 01:12 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Steam should not come out the pressure release at all once you get it up to pressure

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25631399 - 11/22/18 01:19 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah at first I was like wtf guys the top valve is supposed to let out steam? But I see the pressure release on there is labeled "top"

Mine definitely doesn't let steam out of there though before pressure builds sometimes a bit of moisture and condensation gets out the gasket seal but once that pressure release pops up, it's sealed unless you push on it

If steam is escaping like that for the duration of your PC cycle then I could see even multiple litres running dry...it does seem like a malfunction. Is the PC old or new? Can you return it?


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25631411 - 11/22/18 01:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Ok thanks, I'm starting to think the lid is faulty - will investigate further and look to return.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25631412 - 11/22/18 01:32 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah at first I was like wtf guys the top valve is supposed to let out steam? But I see the pressure release on there is labeled "top"

Mine definitely doesn't let steam out of there though before pressure builds sometimes a bit of moisture and condensation gets out the gasket seal but once that pressure release pops up, it's sealed unless you push on it

If steam is escaping like that for the duration of your PC cycle then I could see even multiple litres running dry...it does seem like a malfunction. Is the PC old or new? Can you return it?



I think you refer to the pressure indicator when you mention the pressure release. Both are named TOP but pressure release is a rubber plug (safety release) and pressure indicator is made of aluminium (indicates pressure)

Also pr3ssure indicator should pop back up by itself if you try to push it down while there is Internal pressure, otherwise it's not doing its job as pressure indicator:lol:


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631417 - 11/22/18 01:39 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Ok thanks, I'm starting to think the lid is faulty - will investigate further and look to return.





Is the gasket in place and working as it should? And so that valve labeled "top" doesn't ever get pushed up to a point where no air is coming out? I know this recent PC I bought said in the manual you have to push the lid down a certain way for the first several uses because the gasket is stiff at first.

Hopefully it's something else and you don't need to return it but could be faulty :shrug:


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631420 - 11/22/18 01:43 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Yeah at first I was like wtf guys the top valve is supposed to let out steam? But I see the pressure release on there is labeled "top"

Mine definitely doesn't let steam out of there though before pressure builds sometimes a bit of moisture and condensation gets out the gasket seal but once that pressure release pops up, it's sealed unless you push on it

If steam is escaping like that for the duration of your PC cycle then I could see even multiple litres running dry...it does seem like a malfunction. Is the PC old or new? Can you return it?



I think you refer to the pressure indicator when you mention the pressure release. Both are named TOP but pressure release is a rubber plug (safety release) and pressure indicator is made of aluminium (indicates pressure)

Also pr3ssure indicator should pop back up by itself if you try to push it down while there is Internal pressure, otherwise it's not doing its job as pressure indicator:lol:





Thanks yeah that is what I am referring to. (indicator)


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #25631423 - 11/22/18 01:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I just learned that the black safety plug was named TOP as well during this discussion as I went to double check that indicator is called TOP :shrug: hehe now I will remember this for future reference :takingnotes:

Naming two crucial mechanical parts the same :facepalm: how practical


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
    #25631424 - 11/22/18 01:54 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Aaargh...just had a closer look at the underside of the lid and the pressure indicator (the aluminium one labelled TOP) was actually loose where the gasket and the underside of the indicator screw to the threaded element that goes up through the lid. So the gasket never was able to seal as it was wobbling around on a loose thread!



Damn.

See the photo where I've removed to show the bit I'm talking about. I hope these jars are ok, this is the second batch I've done.

Thanks everyone! I appreciate everyone helping a new comer out.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631427 - 11/22/18 01:55 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Definitely a bad gasket cause when that goes up it seals to build pressure, in should only leak out that if the pressure is exceeding it's limit


Edit: in the time I typed this op figured it out


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: XnMe]
    #25631428 - 11/22/18 01:56 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Definitely a bad gasket cause when that goes up it seals to build pressure, in should only leak out that if the pressure is exceeding it's limit


Edit: in the time I typed this op figured it out




Yeah, wasn't tightened enough. I feel an idiot.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631429 - 11/22/18 01:57 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Aaargh...just had a closer look at the underside of the lid and the pressure indicator (the aluminium one labelled TOP) was actually loose where the gasket and the underside of the indicator screw to the threaded element that goes up through the lid. So the gasket never was able to seal as it was wobbling around on a loose thread!



Damn.

See the photo where I've removed to show the bit I'm talking about. I hope these jars are ok, this is the second batch I've done.

Thanks everyone! I appreciate everyone helping a new comer out.




Well she would work like a butter now! Might have to check that every now and then to make sure it's still tight together


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: XnMe]
    #25631430 - 11/22/18 01:57 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

We've all been there Op


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: XnMe]
    #25631437 - 11/22/18 02:04 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Definitely a bad gasket cause when that goes up it seals to build pressure, in should only leak out that if the pressure is exceeding it's limit



Gasket is definitely not bad and it seals that's obvious from the descriptions.
And the safety release against over pressure is the black rubber plug.
This is the pressure indicator TOP, it just indicates pressure by popping up


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631442 - 11/22/18 02:08 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

So now I'm wondering if my jars will be too dry? If steam was escaping like that, should I assume the jars are too dry to inoculate?

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631444 - 11/22/18 02:08 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Definitely a bad gasket cause when that goes up it seals to build pressure, in should only leak out that if the pressure is exceeding it's limit



Gasket is definitely not bad and it seals that's obvious from the descriptions.
And the safety release against over pressure is the black rubber plug.
This is the pressure indicator TOP, it just indicates pressure by popping up




Yeah but if you read op he didn't have it screwed all the way so the gasket around the pressure indicator couldn't hold pressure and was dumping out steam, he noticed and resolved it


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25631449 - 11/22/18 02:11 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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We've all been there Op




Definitely this ^^

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I just learned that the black safety plug was named TOP as well during this discussion as I went to double check that indicator is called TOP :shrug: hehe now I will remember this for future reference :takingnotes:

Naming two crucial mechanical parts the same :facepalm: how practical




I got out my manual and I think they are labeled top just to distinguish which end is the top...:lol:

Seems like it's more confusing than helpful, I think we can figure out which end is the top..:tongue2:

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: bongoman]
    #25631454 - 11/22/18 02:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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So now I'm wondering if my jars will be too dry? If steam was escaping like that, should I assume the jars are too dry to inoculate?




Most say better dry than wet cause you can just juice some xtra lc/li all on it and not have to worry to much about it getting to moist.


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: XnMe]
    #25631882 - 11/22/18 08:28 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Water doesn't escape from the jars it is pretty much trapped in the substrates/grain into which steam is absorbed again. :thumbup:


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25632177 - 11/22/18 10:11 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Definitely a bad gasket cause when that goes up it seals to build pressure, in should only leak out that if the pressure is exceeding it's limit



Gasket is definitely not bad and it seals that's obvious from the descriptions.
And the safety release against over pressure is the black rubber plug.
This is the pressure indicator TOP, it just indicates pressure by popping up




Actually, it does more than indicate pressure. Without that the PC would implode while cooling down. I had it happen on a 55-gallon steamer.

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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
    #25632197 - 11/22/18 10:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

When I try to visualise a Presto PC imploding I can not imagine what circumstances would cause that kind of force. :sad:
What happened when your 55 gallon steamer imploded?


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Re: [URGENT] Presto jar run underway: running too high? [Re: Mateja]
    #25632602 - 11/22/18 01:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

He shit his pants, I would have shit my pants


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