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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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That’s rough.

Shrooms aren’t as hard on the body systems as ibogaine?

I dunno, I’m not sure what I would do in your situation either.

Racetams and medicinal mushroom combos maybe?

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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I still think iboga in its natural form will be best for me. I want to microdose it. Perhaps try mushroom Microdosing too. I don't know where to look. I live in Ontario so it shouldn't be so hard. I joined some FB groups. But no idea how the heck I find it.

Edited by Marsx (11/21/18 08:09 PM)

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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Does anyone have any advice. I really don't care if it's wrong I just need to try something. I also need to figure out how to get it. I've spent months and months trying treatment I'm worn out. I don't know if it's possible for me to give up hope.

Edited by Marsx (11/21/18 09:28 PM)

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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I forgot. This is critical. Cannabis helps me symptoms, all of them. I can feel like a normal human for an hour or two. But as soon as it's effects fade, everything comes back. I wouldn't be here if I didn't try it. There's just too much pain. But it's not a solution, it's just not a long enough fix and I don't like how it makes me feel mentally. But if cannabis helps temporarily, can something help permanently?

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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Did you read the responses?
Go down to the supermarket and buy some lions mane, niacin and acquire some psilocybin mushrooms.

Take the combination every day, not enough to trip, if it's cubensis take 0.25g dried, and see if it has any effect. It will probably take more than a week to notice any change.

If cannabis is relieving your symptoms then I recommend taking that every day too.
It is probably going to be more effective eaten so try to get some edibles or PM me I can explain to you how to cook cannabis.

You might aswell try if your situation is that bad.
I would also be tempted to try ibogaine in a controlled setting, seeing as you have already paid for the plane ticket, I would make the clinic aware of your health concerns so they can keep an eye on you.

All the best, everyone wants to help you, we've got your back homie.
:loveheart:

EDIT: oh shit sorry I didn't see your post, yeah definitely don't take ibogaine if you were advised by a specialist.
I would still definitely recommend weed edibles, lion's mane and microdose psilocybin though. Hope you get some relief soon mate.

Edited by 2in1 (11/22/18 06:40 AM)

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: 2in1]
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Your story doesn't sound impossible at all, and your friends comment was pretty shitty. I hate when people do that, just because other people have it worse doesn't neglect your own pain. Anyway I think micro dosing shrooms could perhaps be something to try? You can order spores legally, or you can do that in my country at least. For mor information on growing look at the cultivation topic on this site.

Stay strong :heartpump:


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: hejAdig999] * 1
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Okay here's my advice. Please go and check yourself into a mental ward. You need the help of a trained psychiatrist. Not kooky Mexican shamans and new age iboga groups, but a proper mental hospital.

Tell them everything about your condition, and your suicidal thoughts.


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: hejAdig999]
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Hang in there, friend. 

I would also recommend cannabis edibles for some symptom relief. "Firecrackers" are easy to make (important: be sure to decarboxylate the herb first). Edibles give a different kind of high, and they last longer, so I think it's worth trying.

Some other ideas:
Meditation
Masturbation
Massage (w/happy ending?)
Therapy
Hobbies
A pet

These all seem like small things, but if you can find SOME pleasure, anything that feels good, take it. Hell, treat yourself to whatever you want TODAY. Tomorrow is another day.

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: PsyduckMonkey] * 1
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Yeah, a psychiatric ward is not a bad idea, either.
They are there to help when people need it.

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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You could also try full spectrum CBD tinctures or vapes if you don't like the effects of cannabis.
It doesn't get you high, but is supposed to offer many of the same health benefits of cannabis.

I prefer cannabis buds myself though because they have many different benefitial cannabinoids and compounds and I like to get baked.

You could also try to find some Thai weed, or "brick weed" as I think it's called in North America. It has far less THC than the modern super strains but should still have the full spectrum of benefitial cannabinoids, without getting you too blasted.


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: 2in1]
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Hang in there. I know what it's like to look for a quick fix out of desperation.

Many things are complicated and do not have quick fixes. You might have to attack from multiple angles for a prolonged time before you start feeling better. Good sleep/exercise are shown more and more as critical for mental health (physically/psychologically)...  lots of emerging studies coming out now for how diet and digestive health affects neurology as well (lots coming out lately for digestive links to autism). Sleep/exercise are low-hanging fruits, diet would require some research to see if any specific type of diet is especially beneficial/detrimental for your condition. Meditation can be beneficial also.

As for medicating, since cannabis seems to be helping, you might experiment different strains/dosages/preparations(smoked,edible,etc) and see what works best. What was the medication that you were taking specifically? Knowing how that medication was working exactly, might help you make a more informed decision on microdosing or not.

If you are on the brink of suicide, then do please consider the "mental ward" advise. Suicide prevention hotlines can also be lifesavers; pick up a phone and give them a call if you need to. I speak from experience.


Take care of yourself, good luck.

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: DeathByAstonishmnt]
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This was the reason I felt there was no need to explain my story. That's why I asked if psychedelics can heal brain damage.

A psych ward? Are you kidding me? Did you read my fucking story. I took the pill for sleep and the first pill damaged my brain.
You know tardive dyskenisa is a  known side effect of antidepressants, have you ever read the side effects. Yeah tardive as in permanent brain changes (damage). Do you think a psychiatrist understands neurochemistry? What a joke. Maybe try doing what I did. Since it can't happen, I think you should attempt it and see if it happens. I'm not suicidal. Would you tell someone with dementia who is losing their brain the same thing. Do you know how many people end their lives to TBI and concussions. You obviously have no knowledge of intricate the brain is and neither do I. Nobody does. Yet we go on prescribing medications as if we do. I can link you a million research articles showing damage from neurotoxins to your brain, anyways I literally don't care.

Thank you for the other replies. I live in Ontario and found a person in another province who I texted. He said he can mail me lion's mane and psilocybin in capsules.This sounds super sketchy. Is there a link somewhere to how one goes about getting this stuff?

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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Hey man buy some edibles if the cannnabis is working and some CBD drops.
Grind the weed up and eat it if you must. It'll last longer if the thc is helping. just a suggestion.

Wish you the best my man.

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: LosTresOjos]
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If you can get some shrooms then get them dude, I know alot of people take them in capsules. I would probably prefer to just get dried shrooms and make the capsules myself, then I can know the dosage etc.
Lion's mane you can get in alot of supermarkets, just dry it and grind into caps or even eat fresh if you can be bothered to get them weekly.
Hope you can get some and it helps.

LosTresOjos said:
Hey man buy some edibles if the cannnabis is working and some CBD drops.
Grind the weed up and eat it if you must. It'll last longer if the thc is helping. just a suggestion.

Wish you the best my man.


You can't just grind weed up and eat it, it will have little to no effects.
Decarboxylation is what has to happen first.


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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Marsx said:
Does anyone have any advice. I really don't care if it's wrong I just need to try something.


Something I’ve been meaning to look into and something I’ve heard mentioned on Joe Rogan podcasts is stem cells.  I don’t know if you can bang some stem cells into your brain but I’m sure someone right now is working on a tek.

I’m trying to think what would regrow/repair brain the best and it seems like along with the above suggestions the ace in the whole would be something like those stem cells.  It’s also a ‘go to mexico’ thing last I heard.  One last thing, I get it you mention suicide not because of depression, I would be really careful how you word that to any doctors etc, really anyone, to avoid confusion like above (spent a hospital stay on suicide watch because I worded myself incorrectly) and also pass on the psyche ward because I think they can force you to take shit against your will + they probably won’t fix anything..

I’ll keep thinking about what I would do in your shoes and see what I come up with.


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Amanita86]
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I've tried stem cells as well. The research on stem cells is promising but they don't work well on humans yet. I've actually ordered iboga instead of going to Mexico. I have a paramedic friend to look after me and I'm getting an EKG and liver panel done before hand. Iboga seems like the most promising for neurological issues.

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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:uhno:

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Marsx]
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I'm sorry to hear your troubles. Sending positive vibes to get you better. Don't give up.  There is much to learn about our brain and life.  I've read many great things in books about plant spirits healing people physically and mentally. I've experienced a few myself and only good has come, however I do not have your condition or anything remotely close.

Meditation, accepting, believing, medicine plant spirit such as cactus, iboga, aya, fungi. In my opinion there's no reason not to try plant medicine. Open your mind and heart to the impossible and they might visit and heal you. Using whole plants in the brews are much better than extracts. The healing resides in the entire plant.


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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: pinedownpioneer]
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I have no expertise in this area, but go slow and take care of you. Flooding your system with something new...I interested that hope about desperation but it may be much worse.

What's stopping you using cannabis more regularly in some form?

Could you tell us what you were taking? Lots of us here are on meds and struggle with sleep/mood etc and it will probably help some of our community along the way to know to avoid this one

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Re: 1st post- need urgent advice [Re: Acuriousmycologist]
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I work rotating shift work(dupont schedule). It's brutal so I feel your pain and getting meds to enable you to sleep on your off time.

I dabbled with using benzo for sleeping during the day when working nights. It was the best sleep I have had since I was a child (you know those days long ago you sprang out of bed) but stopped taking them due to not wanting to become dependant + I get drug tested for my profession & I really didn't want a script for antidepressants on my medical file. Blackout blinds, ear plugs, and a sleep mask have made a world of difference as well as natural sleepy time teas.

Everyone here is very interested in your recovery and praying(sending + vibes) please keep us posted on how it goes.

If you are interested in reading up on plant spirit medicines I have a few books you could read. They would provide some insight as to what psychedelic plants really are and hope that they can/do cure people. It's an incredible door to insight and healing to open. It's good you have a paramedic to trip sit. I'd recommend to read up on what you will start feeling/seeing/thinking when the plant takes hold. It's important to not fight the experience, let it wash over and take hold of you.


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