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Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold?
    #25624463 - 11/19/18 04:15 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hello Guys,

I am new to this forum and to mushroom growing in General.

I bought a mushroom growkit - Psylocybe Cubensis "PES Amazonian" and it arrived nearly two weeks ago.

I tried to be as careful and germfree as possible, using a cloth to Block my breath and a New pair of disposable Rubber gloves everytime I handled the kit. I also Used Boiled water (cooled down of course) to flush it for the First Time and desinfected my gloves and the desk surface with alcohol!

Since two weeks, I opened the plastic bag once per Day and I use a spray bottle with boiled water to spray it on All four sides of the bag - once per Day.

Since yesterday, there the white Mold or mycellum on the Top started to become grey or greeenish in color, while the mycellum on the sides and the bottom of the cake is perfectly fine and white, I am worried about the top Mold.

Is this a contamination? Could it be that I have overdone it with the spray gone and it is too moist? Today I discovered that there is a bit of water collecting on the bottom of the plastic bag (not the kit), does this mean there is too mush moisture inside of the bag.

The temperature around the bag is between 21 and 24 degree, depending in the time of Day.



Thank you for your replys, I am really wondering if my shroomies are okay :smile:


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017] * 1
    #25624472 - 11/19/18 04:35 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Although its hard to be sure, it looks like bruising due to being too dry..You should have this is fruiting conditions, which means holes in the bag, and misting the surface when it looks dry..review the Easy AF Shoebox tek, which is similar to what you have


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25624505 - 11/19/18 05:27 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for your reply!

The plastic bag has an airfilter attached to it, which should make airholes obsolete, at least according to the Shop I bought it from. The surface indeed looks a bit dry. What should I do to moist it?

I have looked at the tutorial you recommended but do not know exactly what to Do.


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25624507 - 11/19/18 05:30 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

The air filter is only for gas exchange, during colonisation..For fruiting you need air exchange i.e holes so evaporation can occur..You just need a mist spray bottle like for misting plants etc


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25624518 - 11/19/18 05:46 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Dude what color is that growing?


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25624520 - 11/19/18 05:47 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Allright, so I should make a few holes on the plastic bag? Got it!

Because of the misting gun: are you sure that I should Directly mist the surface of the cake/mycellum with the misting gun?
The instructions of my Box really adviced me never to moisten my cake/shrooms directly and only moist the sides fo the Bag instead.


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25624522 - 11/19/18 05:49 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Dude if it's not white and is grey/green that's contaminated as fuck


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: XnMe]
    #25624523 - 11/19/18 05:49 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude what color is that growing?




It was white until Day before yesterday, then it turned a little bit gray. Today it became a little greenish.

The "Mold" or surface mycelum is growing at a constant rate btw.


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25624524 - 11/19/18 05:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yeah, that's a gonner Bo.
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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: XnMe]
    #25624525 - 11/19/18 05:53 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude if it's not white and is grey/green that's contaminated as fuck




Which is weird, I absolutely Did my Best to have the most sterile conditions as possible...


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25624526 - 11/19/18 05:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude if it's not white and is grey/green that's contaminated as fuck




Which is weird, I absolutely Did my Best to have the most sterile conditions as possible...




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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25624527 - 11/19/18 05:54 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

looks like bruising to me

mist and if you don't mind putting holes in the bag, do that. otherwise open it up a few times a day maybe...


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: keeno]
    #25624532 - 11/19/18 06:01 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Hey said it's green and gray case closed


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: XnMe]
    #25624538 - 11/19/18 06:17 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Trich spreads from a central point, and has a defined texture..bruising affects a whole area, which is what this appears to be, conditions related


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25624544 - 11/19/18 06:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

I'll stay tooned to see if I'm wrong but he said it's grey/green...


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: XnMe]
    #25624564 - 11/19/18 07:06 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Allright, thank you that gives me hope!

For misting, should I use normal tap water or should I buy bottled water, Maybe even boil it and let it cool down?


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: XnMe]
    #25624747 - 11/19/18 10:04 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

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I'll stay tooned to see if I'm wrong but he said it's grey/green...



It's bruising man. Look at the pic posted. Hella blue lol

Also green isn't an indicator of trich. Mycelium can bruise green as well. Albeit not the same shade of green, usually either much lighter or much darker, but it still can bruise green. My indicators of trich always involve looking for the grainy/sandy texture that trich always has. Bruised myc is just discoloured myc. No grainy texture at all really.


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25629443 - 11/21/18 10:19 AM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Short UPDATE 3 DAYS LATER:

I started misting and fanning the cake several Times a Day, the surface is still green/blueish in color, but the First two Pins appeared.

BUT!
By closer examination I noticed, that many Pins/ little shrooms appeared at the sides of the box, the cake there is Well moisted while the surface still looks pretty dry.

Now my question: will a dry surface prevent Pins from showing up or will it just take them longer to appear, so should I continue to mist like before or mist more often, like 3-5 Times a Day (I am misting 2 times a Day atm and once per Day, I moisten the sides of the plastic bag with one splash of the misting gun per side).

Thank you for your reply!


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: ShortFilm2017]
    #25629795 - 11/21/18 01:34 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

i vote contamination. My monitor is color calibrated and that looks like trich. White first then turns green.


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Re: Grey - Green textured Mycellum on top of my cake - Mold? [Re: JerrySeinfeld]
    #25629843 - 11/21/18 01:59 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

Again... Judge a mold by its texture not color. Molds have a sandy/grainy texture. Mycelium bruising is almost always rubbery looking. Myc can bruise greenish, and there's molds like penicillium that are blue AF. So again.. Color is never the indicator.

Green bruising on fruits, the cake is bruising similarly to op's tray:


Green nasty AF bruising on substrate:
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that is bruising and it has no blue to it.




Molds sporulating:
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- La Flama Blanca
This pic shows multiple molds.. Notice they're all granular looking. Even the non-green ones. Those are spores.

- taGyo
- Google
Look at how the mycelium looks bubbly and granular. Not at all like cubensis.

Trich that took over an entire tub:





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23461134

The difference is massive when you look closely. Look at this penicillium picture:
and tell me it's bruising blue after looking at its texture. This is the key to contamination identification. Keep this in mind.

Op definitely has a rubbery AF surface. If it was trich, the whole thing would look sandy AF. Also, yeah when the surface has unideal conditions, the sides generally have the better conditions, and thus side pins occur.


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