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Cobweb in monotub?
    #25611683 - 11/13/18 10:36 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hey, sry for my third contam panic thread here... But I'm to new to this to really can decide myself.

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What do you think this looks like? Cobweb mold?

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25611699 - 11/13/18 10:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Looks great

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Thesunbeam]
    #25611716 - 11/13/18 10:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Oh thx so much, you are my hero :smile: I had put so much work in that now and every 2 days or so I discover sth. new and think it's the end of the project now :laugh:

EDIT: Panic is coming up again... Other opinions? I think it looks a bit gray in some areas...

One more thing. If it is not mold, should I already introduce FAE? I have taped all the holes of the monotub and the lid closed so far.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25613110 - 11/13/18 09:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

how many days since u spawned it?  7-10 days, birth/mist and wait for pins!


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: TedsDead]
    #25619286 - 11/16/18 04:21 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Okay, untaped the holes and stuffed with poly 2 days ago. This is how it looks like now:

Cambodian


B+


Can you have a look if its still allright? I wonder why the mycelium of the 2 strains look so different. Is that normal?

Edited by mhaka_patana (11/16/18 04:24 PM)

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25619971 - 11/16/18 11:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

looks ok.  wait for pins.    I've never done cambo so not sure if thats characteristic myc but the two are different genera so it makes sense that it would look different.  otherwise are those ms tubs?  i get lots of cottony growth sections when doing ms.  if its trich you'll know in a day


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: TedsDead]
    #25620012 - 11/17/18 12:36 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Cambodians look suspect, could be characteristic but I’ve had tubs that looked like that and had some sort of infection,but like Ted said, wait and see. B+ looks stellar, no worries there.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Thesunbeam]
    #25620094 - 11/17/18 03:10 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, it's MS. B+ is too. I also did some brf jars with both. In the combodian jars the myc looked the same and grew right through the verm layer up to the lid. This happened in all cambodian jars but in not any of the b+ jars. So if theres a contam it must have been there from day 0 on the print or when creating the syringes. Up there it also looked infected. I removed the verm and that brownish lookin myc before the dunk. I think I will keep that stuff for now and see what happens.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25620553 - 11/17/18 09:30 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I'd be shocked if those cams actually fruited before moulding out. Prove me wrong lol


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25620846 - 11/17/18 11:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Well, as said, I'm doing this my first time, just a noob. But I want to see what i am growing there now that i have spent so much time and some money. I did some research and found other threads in the forum with cotton myc of cambodians.

Another point why I think it could work is that I see some knots at the places between those cotton balls. Maybe they are everywhere just under that stuff, haha at least I which they are there :smile:

And finally, I have some side project running. It was a small cambodian grain jar that I forgot to spawn. So I smashed it and got a "grain cake" that I put into some bigger jar to have space for pins at the sides onto some perlite on the ground. And this one did also grew cotton balls out of the sides, but it is also pinning an the moment, see here:



So there are also some perlite pieces but the bigger ones at the upper left lokk the same as that stuff in the tubs...

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25620928 - 11/17/18 12:26 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Looks good, I don't see any cobweb mold. Sometimes mycelium can have an offwhite look with puffy growth, right alongside rhizo.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25622221 - 11/18/18 01:32 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Well, as said, I'm doing this my first time, just a noob. But I want to see what i am growing there now that i have spent so much time and some money. I did some research and found other threads in the forum with cotton myc of cambodians.

Another point why I think it could work is that I see some knots at the places between those cotton balls. Maybe they are everywhere just under that stuff, haha at least I which they are there :smile:

And finally, I have some side project running. It was a small cambodian grain jar that I forgot to spawn. So I smashed it and got a "grain cake" that I put into some bigger jar to have space for pins at the sides onto some perlite on the ground. And this one did also grew cotton balls out of the sides, but it is also pinning an the moment, see here:



So there are also some perlite pieces but the bigger ones at the upper left lokk the same as that stuff in the tubs...



I know it could work.. I'd actually like you to prove me wrong lol. I'm just saying it could potentially mold out fast. Linear bacteria generally causes the thick cottage cheese texture like this. Since most people generallt worry if the mushrooms produced are edible, the mushrooms produced would still be edible. All mushrooms grow alongside bacteria in the wild, and thus filter them out quite nicely. However, due to the fact mycelium is working on containing the bacteria, and thus produces the massive growths as a reaction to the bacteria, it is exhausting excessive resources into defense. This in turn makes it more susceptible for parasitic molds to germinate on it.

In fact, molds almost never germinate on mycelium until the myc has been weakened by something like bacteria or stress. Considering your spawn also looks pretty thick and cottage cheese textured, it looks like bacteria was in the Cambodian spawn. Perhaps the syringe was contaminated. The B+ IMO looks like it might last longer.


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25622414 - 11/18/18 06:07 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, this morning it was still white and when I looked again only 2 hours later I saw this:



That was faster than I thought :laugh: It's mold, right? Not bruising... I will toss that shit this evening. Brought it to another room meanwhile. So bad, had pasteurized the sub and worked as clean as I could with everything I did.

What do you think should I do with the brf cakes that were made from the same print? Just birthed them 2 days ago. Also toss them directly? The already looked suspicious when I opened the jars, discoloured myc was above the vermiculite.

Good that I had decided to split the risk by using 2 strains and 2 teks.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25622712 - 11/18/18 09:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Can you get a better quality photo? I need to see the morphology to know 100%. Unfortunately, yeah it doesn't look good already. Sorry man


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25623551 - 11/18/18 03:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Sure, here some more of the previous photography session:







Some with flash, some without so the yellow is white. That on the last two on the bottom is just a shadow. The whole thing looks really funny. Is gotta be a huge clump of mold soon. Some good news too, one first pin appeared on the B+ side.

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: mhaka_patana]
    #25624040 - 11/18/18 08:05 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

eww


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: TedsDead]
    #25624216 - 11/18/18 09:45 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly looks like bruising, but yeah it also looks unhealthy AF and is probably bruising because of it


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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Mad Season]
    #25624270 - 11/18/18 10:24 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Does the tub in question smell any different in comparison?

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Re: Cobweb in monotub? [Re: Thesunbeam]
    #25624336 - 11/18/18 11:29 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

The smell is normal, just like mushroom and exactly like the other tub that looks ok. If you think its bruising, I think I will keep it, but quarantined, for now. If it is a contam there should be a point somewhen, where even a noob can be 100% sure and all I have to do is wait, so... nothing o loose :smile:

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