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Gods decision to create the Universe
    #2562383 - 04/15/04 06:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If he had any choice, was it ethically right (correct, good) to create it?


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2562396 - 04/15/04 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

we are god


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: MollyDolly]
    #2562402 - 04/15/04 06:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

who said right and wrong even exist?


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ZenGecko]
    #2562413 - 04/15/04 06:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

joe mamma


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2562434 - 04/15/04 07:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have no clue why God created reality...

We are part of God.

I would not say we are God. Thats a little out there. Personally I think thats inane. But we are the sub-type realitys. Not God the Source energy.

Orgin of Infinite Space, Reality and time.

We are the spawned being of Source energy.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2562454 - 04/15/04 07:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If he had any choice, was it ethically right (correct, good) to create it?

I don't know but it's like he's trying to convince himself that he did the right thing:

"...And God saw that it was good" - Genesis 1:10
"...And God saw that it was good" - Genesis 1:12
"...And God saw that it was good" - Genesis 1:18
"...And God saw that it was good" - Genesis 1:21
"...And God saw that it was good" - Genesis 1:25

no really! it's all good! :wink:


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2562506 - 04/15/04 07:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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We are part of God.

I would not say we are God. Thats a little out there. Personally I think thats inane. But we are the sub-type realitys. Not God the Source energy.





we are god becuase we are a part of him, we are Gods love.

does it make any sense to anybody else to say that we are a part of god, but then say we arent god? That implies that though we are a part of him, that part of god which is all of us is NOT god? so god isnt god? what?

the only thing that is 'out there' is your fear of who you really are.

i blame religion for your shitty perception of god, making u feel inferior.

Here is a way to put it man, we are god experiencing himself in many different aspects. testing the love that which is in all of us, that is god.

oh and also, who said there was ever a creation? cant we realize that there ALWAYS WAS? time does not exsist, there was no time of creations, there just always was.

otherwise here is what you will be like "well what created that, well what created that, well what created that," and you sound like a broken record.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2562513 - 04/15/04 08:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

very interesting :smirk:


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2562529 - 04/15/04 08:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Kottonmouth said:
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We are part of God.

I would not say we are God. Thats a little out there. Personally I think thats inane. But we are the sub-type realitys. Not God the Source energy.





we are god becuase we are a part of him, we are Gods love.

does it make any sense to anybody else to say that we are a part of god, but then say we arent god? That implies that though we are a part of him, that part of god which is all of us is NOT god? so god isnt god? what?

the only thing that is 'out there' is your fear of who you really are.

i blame religion for your shitty perception of god, making u feel inferior.

Here is a way to put it man, we are god experiencing himself in many different aspects. testing the love that which is in all of us, that is god.

oh and also, who said there was ever a creation? cant we realize that there ALWAYS WAS? time does not exsist, there was no time of creations, there just always was.

otherwise here is what you will be like "well what created that, well what created that, well what created that," and you sound like a broken record.




I edited that so I did not offend people. I say in way we are part of God etc. Just did not want anyone angery etc. I said "well I guess you could say that".


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: Mr_Gubjet]
    #2563478 - 04/15/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Without trying to offend anyone, I think there should be a little more usage of "in my opinion" in front of a lot of the statements some of you guys make, unless you really do KNOW what you're preaching as fact.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2563488 - 04/15/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Creation is just something that exists within our universe. The universe was never created, it's always been.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2563593 - 04/15/04 02:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ivi: your question is filled with assumptions left right and center. ERk


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2563606 - 04/15/04 02:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The problem with asking a question as such is that it contains two (maybe false) assumptions:

That there exists a god.
That there exists morals, ethics and a definition of clear right and wrong.

It is possible a force exists that we could call god (though I don't believe it, as I'm more on the side of the Nihilists,) but morals and ethics are definitely human standards and perceptions. To ask whether a universe was created by a higher force was right or wrong is like asking judging whether its morally correct that the sun should give us its bad rays along with its good.

Whether the decision was right or wrong doesn't exist, it's just the matter that (theoreotically) this higher force created it, to have the darkness come along with the light, the life along with the death. Looking in things in whether they're good or bad is looking at colors in black and white.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: TimeTraveler]
    #2563824 - 04/15/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Without trying to offend anyone, I think there should be a little more usage of "in my opinion" in front of a lot of the statements some of you guys make, unless you really do KNOW what you're preaching as fact.




this is a discussion board.....it goes without saying that what people say is their personal opinion, i find it pointless to say "oh btw this is just my opinion" ......well OBVIOUSLY it is. lol

just going by my own experience, which coincides with hundreds of thousands of other peoples experiences, id say its truth, i try to speak it as simple and plain as it gets, isnt that what we want, straight to the fucking point simple truth? some just cant handle it, they're just too scared. fucking ego.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2563983 - 04/15/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"InfidelGod posted and saw that his post was good."

I want to know why God needed to rest on the seventh day. I am detecting some major weakness right there.


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2564024 - 04/15/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it goes without saying that what people say is their personal opinion

No, the correct phrasing is: "It is just my humble opinion that it goes without saying that what people say is their personal opinion."


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ivi]
    #2564784 - 04/15/04 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

God did not have choice, for if he did that would show free will(illusion to a previous thread :lol:) .. Anyways, I do not think it was a matter of good or evil in creating the world. I think 'it' 'knew' that we would experience polararities to change to reach 'the goal', even though the goal is is not a destination, but a 'state of mind'


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: Swami]
    #2565163 - 04/15/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No, the correct phrasing is: "It is just my humble opinion that it goes without saying that what people say is their personal opinion."




lol, what did i say?  it goes without saying.  but yet you try to correct me anyways.  :smirk:  its spirituality and philosophy....not something like "how to bake cookies".  You do understand the difference dont you..


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2566801 - 04/16/04 08:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i totally agree with that you said, but i wonder do you have trouble believe it? and can you leave your body at will yet?


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Re: Gods decision to create the Universe [Re: ]
    #2566815 - 04/16/04 08:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

wow... i see a lot of you guys assuming that god is a being of some sort that posesses an ego..
:rolleyes:


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