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nube424
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If mycelium is on top that quick it's probably from grains being near the surface.
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CVIEnergyCore
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nube424 said: If mycelium is on top that quick it's probably from grains being near the surface.
I hope so. I want my first monotub to be a success.
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Caps McGee
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Probably fine... wayyy too many eggs in one basket, especially without a generous amount of experience generating clean spawn... any pictures? Whole lot easier to identify with eyes on it
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CVIEnergyCore
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Caps McGee said: Probably fine... wayyy too many eggs in one basket, especially without a generous amount of experience generating clean spawn... any pictures? Whole lot easier to identify with eyes on it
It is mycelium. Fluffy and very white and popping up around the edges of the tub. I had to move some coir away from the edges of the tub when I mixed the grain spawn and coir because I had too much substrate and it was partially covering my holes for FAE. I believe grains very near to the surface of the substrate are colonizing. Well I have the tub in complete darkness so I do not think the mycelium will begin to fruit. I looked through the sides of the tub and the rye grain is colonizing the coir fast as hell. Anyway fingers crossed my tub will colonize without contamination. I have another week before I will turn on lights. The tub is not sealed I have the FAE going now. Temperatures are around 75F.
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SadTurkey
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Colonizing in darkness is outdated. The current consensus is that a 24h cycle of light and darkness benefits shrooms in every step of the way.
During fruiting they benefit from a strong, cook light, preferably 6500k lighting.
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CVIEnergyCore
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SadTurkey said: Colonizing in darkness is outdated. The current consensus is that a 24h cycle of light and darkness benefits shrooms in every step of the way.
During fruiting they benefit from a strong, cook light, preferably 6500k lighting.
Well I have 2 led bulbs at 6000K That will have to work. Not dumping anymore money into this grow until I see if it even works out for me. I hear alot of people for and against darkness. I have an uneven top layer of coir and I want to prevent premature pinning. That's why I have it darkness. Maybe next time I can go with the light. Thanks for the advice.
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tripdawg420
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hmu on your next grow ill help ya
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CVIEnergyCore
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tripdawg420 said: hmu on your next grow ill help ya
Sounds Good, Thank you!
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CVIEnergyCore
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Little update. Monotub incubating at 80F for 7 days. It seems that my tub will need more than 10 days to fully colonize. No sign of contaminants.
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Caps McGee
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Dont incubate, great breeding ground for contaminants... 68-70 is sufficient and will help with any hidden contaminants... no further than this in a week, I suspect excess moisture, bacteria, or both
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CVIEnergyCore
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Dropping temperatures now will induce fruiting, won't it?
I don't see any contaminates from outside the tub or looking on top. I suppose I could have excess moisture but not sure how to check that.
It's my first tub I wasn't expecting it to go perfect.
It's a 110 quart tub so maybe it will take longer to fully colonize?
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Pastywhyte
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Cubes are tropical so a drop in temp wonβt induce pinning, thatβs for cold weather woodloving species.
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Caps McGee
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Update your sources
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CVIEnergyCore
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Pastywhyte said: Cubes are tropical so a drop in temp wonβt induce pinning, thatβs for cold weather woodloving species.
Thanks for the information. Then why does everyone try to lower temp and fruit cubes at 70F? Why not fruit at 80F?
I read warmer temperatures speed up the speed at which the mycelium colonizes the substrate.
Alot of people on this site put out conflicting information.
So 77F for colonizing grain 70F for using the grain and colonizing bulk substrate 70F again for fruiting tubs?
I keep reading that I should let the monotub incubate, darkness and only Gas exchange. Some people say 70F, FAE and light. It's all very confusing.
My tub is at 80F. It's in darkness. It has FAE. When the top of the coir is colonized I will introduce light and fruit it at 70-74F.
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Caps McGee
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Because 70 is still favorable for cubensis, but 80 is more favorable for contaminants... no one is colonizing and fruiting cubensis at different temps... room temperature from spore to spent is best... things may go a little faster at 80, but no discernable increase in yield, and increases your chances of contamination by an order of magnitude... no more dark colonization with restricted FAE... these are outdated practices...watch dates on the threads you're looking at as practices evolve rather quickly and errors are often repeated from habit
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Caps McGee
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12/12 lighting has been shown beneficial to mycelium through all stages of growth from spore to spent... mushrooms and mycelium are aerobic organisms that require oxygen for healthy growth: there's no restricted FAE in nature... IME, best results come from light all the way through, fruiting in unmodified tubs with the lid flipped from spawn for FAE... light is not a pinning trigger, and neither is temperature (for cubensis)... full colonization and FAE are pinning triggers... also, liners are on their way out as they do not prevent side pins, proper surface conditions do
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Guy on a buffalo
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Caps McGee said: Update your sources
Think what Pasty is saying is that a drastic temp drop isnt a pinning trigger...not that they wont pin at 70
Assuming of course you are referring to Pastys post...
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Guy on a buffalo
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OP...Caps got you on right track. Looking good
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Caps McGee
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No, I was referring to OP' s sources that say temp drop is a pinning trigger for cubensis, and that dark colonization period with restricted FAE is a good idea...
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Guy on a buffalo
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Oh got ya...sorry
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