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Highthere
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should i harvest?
#25620887 - 11/17/18 12:06 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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[ image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/18-46/248128678-thumb_IMG_20181117_205246.jpg[/image] So 3 weeks passed and this is the rezult. I want to wait a few days longer so the 5-6 smaller ones to catch up but im scared I will ruin them. What do you guys think?
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bodhisatta 
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Highthere]
#25620914 - 11/17/18 12:20 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would get them out of that choke bag
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Highthere
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are you sure? thats a growkit and the recommended thing was to keep it in the bag? won't it get contaminated?
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Highthere]
#25620923 - 11/17/18 12:24 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Stale air in the bag is a contamination magnet actually. Chances are it will go moldy way faster all suffocated.
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Highthere
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even if i air them twice every day? Also , i looked into some other threads of this b+ variaty and they are usually harvested when the caps are completely open. so i should wait a week more probably.
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Highthere]
#25620964 - 11/17/18 12:48 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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You definitely won't have to wait a week until those caps open. Maybe a day.
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Highthere
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so i think im going with out of the bag for 24-36 hours and then harvest. Thanks a lot guys! Its my first growing exprience ,so its pretty exciting. Read into the forum and going to try with spores next time!
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Highthere]
#25621037 - 11/17/18 01:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It’s always best to harvest right before the veil breaks, max potency. After that it starts dropping spores and stop producing psilocybin.
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Highthere
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Astonish]
#25621051 - 11/17/18 01:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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is 25g fresh a good dose? also any suggestions how to make them go down better? ive tried only dried ones before.
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bodhisatta said: I would get them out of that choke bag
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bodhisatta said: Stale air in the bag is a contamination magnet actually. Chances are it will go moldy way faster all suffocated.
Ya those poor things can't breathe man.
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Astonish]
#25621093 - 11/17/18 02:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Astonish said: It’s always best to harvest right before the veil breaks, max potency. After that it starts dropping spores and stop producing psilocybin.
Got any proof of that at all?
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Highthere]
#25621113 - 11/17/18 02:31 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Highthere said: is 25g fresh a good dose? also any suggestions how to make them go down better? ive tried only dried ones before.
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ithikuss
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bodhisatta said:
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Astonish said: It’s always best to harvest right before the veil breaks, max potency. After that it starts dropping spores and stop producing psilocybin.
Got any proof of that at all?
take it that's an old wives tale? which would mean just before sporespolsion all over then to maximize weight?
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: ithikuss]
#25621188 - 11/17/18 03:05 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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ithikuss said:
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bodhisatta said:
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Astonish said: It’s always best to harvest right before the veil breaks, max potency. After that it starts dropping spores and stop producing psilocybin.
Got any proof of that at all?
take it that's an old wives tale? which would mean just before sporespolsion all over then to maximize weight?
I've heard so many theories on this matter, but it has never been proven that max potency is just before or after veils break or when spores start to drop. At least not that I'm aware of.
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Tormato]
#25621197 - 11/17/18 03:09 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting... I guess just making sure there is no mess is the most important thing, at least I don't care for sporeloads all over my surface.. makes it harder to keep an eye out for other discoloration.
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: ithikuss]
#25621218 - 11/17/18 03:18 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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ithikuss said: Interesting... I guess just making sure there is no mess is the most important thing, at least I don't care for sporeloads all over my surface.. makes it harder to keep an eye out for other discoloration.
I think the most convincing theory...IMO...is that potency is established during the pin stage and that once they start to grow into mature fruits the active chemicals are no longer being produced and the fruiting body begins focusing it's energy on reproduction. This would explain why aborts are perceivably more potent it's because the actives have all been produced, but are contained in a pin sized fruiting body....but to my knowledge nothing has been set in stone on that.
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Tormato]
#25621225 - 11/17/18 03:21 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tormato said:
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ithikuss said: Interesting... I guess just making sure there is no mess is the most important thing, at least I don't care for sporeloads all over my surface.. makes it harder to keep an eye out for other discoloration.
I think the most convincing theory...IMO...is that potency is established during the pin stage and that once they start to grow into mature fruits the active chemicals are no longer being produced and the fruiting body begins focusing it's energy on reproduction. This would explain why aborts are perceivably more potent it's because the actives have all been produced, but are contained in a pin sized fruiting body....but to my knowledge nothing has been set in stone on that. 
I guess the only way would be to measure content % in a pin compared to a fully mature one next to it. Which is way beyond me in both knowledge an tools... Need an eccentric old rich dude to start pouring in the money for research... lol either way though, as long as they're not bunk imo
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: ithikuss]
#25621302 - 11/17/18 03:49 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I probably could experiment, but I’m lazy and honestly it doesn’t matter....I just pick em when look good ya know what I mean? They’re either potent or they’re not
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: Tormato]
#25621308 - 11/17/18 03:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: should i harvest? [Re: ithikuss]
#25621358 - 11/17/18 04:08 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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AFTER your pin set is in then they need more air.
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