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    #25614044 - 11/14/18 10:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hey fellow shroomers....so the first 2 times ive done this process was 100% success....but now for some reason i cannot avoid contamination...mostly black mold...i injected a batch that ended up growing it....and now just last night i PCed a new batch 15psi for 1.5 hours...i woke up in the morning to inject and a opened up the PC amd all the jars had huge amounts of black crap....i followed the same process as i always have....can anyone help me out here 😞

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614050 - 11/14/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Your jars are going moldy as you let them cool in the PC overnight?


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614072 - 11/14/18 11:02 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey fellow shroomers....so the first 2 times ive done this process was 100% success....but now for some reason i cannot avoid contamination...mostly black mold...i injected a batch that ended up growing it....and now just last night i PCed a new batch 15psi for 1.5 hours...i woke up in the morning to inject and a opened up the PC amd all the jars had huge amounts of black crap....i followed the same process as i always have....can anyone help me out here 😞




Mold does not grow overnight nor would it grow in an unopened pressure cooker.  I get black discoloration on the aluminum foil when I PC jars that is just due to heat.

Odds are you let the PC run out of water you need at least two liters pints of  water per hour of PC use. BTW 30 minutes is enough at sea level for sterilization and adjust for altitude.

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For every 1,000 feet above 2,000-foot elevation, you must increase cooking time by 5 percent. So if your pressure cooker recipe indicates that you should cook something at high pressure for 25 minutes and you live at 6,000 feet above sea level, you should actually keep cooking at high pressure for 30 minutes.Nov 29, 2011





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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: rider420]
    #25614088 - 11/14/18 11:07 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

30 minutes for grains?


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25614114 - 11/14/18 11:16 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Grains or anything else. Note you must start the timer only after the PC hits 15 PSI.

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: rider420]
    #25614212 - 11/14/18 11:56 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:clintonshuh:

30 mins would have my grain turn to liquid in 2 weeks from all the bacteria. 30 is ideal for agar but not grains. You want more like 2 hours. And yeah op mold doesn't come that fast, and it is likely burned due to water running out or not elevating them off the bottom. Pics would help


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Noisecontrol]
    #25614225 - 11/14/18 12:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Disregard rider... post pics.

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Failboat]
    #25614252 - 11/14/18 12:21 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

My thoughts were maybe you burned them, maybe too low water or not elevated?
I put chicken wire down to elevate my jars.


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: rider420] * 1
    #25614316 - 11/14/18 12:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Grains or anything else. Note you must start the timer only after the PC hits 15 PSI.




This is mis-information, fake news and should not be listened to.  You can sterilise syringes and agar plates in 30 minutes, but to get to all the contaminants and bacterias in grain jars the proven, tested, agreed upon by dozens of experts time is at least 90  minutes.  Some people, me included go for 120 minutes.

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Edmunter]
    #25614393 - 11/14/18 01:15 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

OK.  Even if you did PC for 30 mins, it still shouldn't go moldy overnight.

Like, that's impossible.


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25614394 - 11/14/18 01:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Post some pictures of this mold, will ya?


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
    #25614525 - 11/14/18 02:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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OK.  Even if you did PC for 30 mins, it still shouldn't go moldy overnight.

Like, that's impossible.




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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Edmunter]
    #25614534 - 11/14/18 02:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Ya i think u guys are right...i think its burned on the bottom...the rubber on the jars is burned off...ill need to line the PC with foil this time i think i forgot that

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614543 - 11/14/18 02:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

One more question guys....i had attached the needle to one of the syrines b4 i realized my jars were fucked...i quickly capped it and put back into the fridge...is that syringe fucked since i put needle on it or am i ok?

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614553 - 11/14/18 02:18 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Remember to be thorough when you ask questions. What kind of syringe, what's in it? I'm assuming a spore syringe?

If the needle was sterile and you didn't squirt out any liquid or sucked anything in, it's unlikely any bacteria will have made it into the syringe. Spore syringes are likely to contain low amounts of contaminants anyway. It's certainly possible for spores to have landed on the outside of the syringe though, that's why you flame sterilize a needle before use. Do that and you'll most likely be fine.

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: SadTurkey]
    #25614650 - 11/14/18 02:54 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Ok thank you bud

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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614685 - 11/14/18 03:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I would flame the needle before inoculating anyway. I haven't yet used agar myself, but I wont do another grow without first growing out on agar to avoid contams. Doesn't sound like your issue is actually a contam, but with agar you know for sure what you're starting with.


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Re: Desperately need answers [Re: Mushdude34]
    #25614727 - 11/14/18 03:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Line the PC with foil?


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