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PNW Outdoor grows?
    #25613117 - 11/13/18 09:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hey y'all,

A friend of a friend in Seattle planted a few patches of wood-loving actives on her property.  Some of these patches are in the ground, and others are in large, elevated planters.

Does anyone have any suggestions about how to care for / sustain / monitor the health of wood-lover mycelium over the winter?  Heavy mulching?  One of those water-filled tomato cages?  Some sort of improvised terrarium / heat battery?

Conversely, given how temperate the weather in Seattle can be, it is reasonable to assume that mycelium would go dormant but survive the average winter?  Given how persistent some wild patches are, this seems like a reasonable assumption.

If anyone has experience keeping outdoor patches healthy and viable over the winter, she'd love some advice.

Thanks!

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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: XLCM] * 1
    #25613504 - 11/14/18 03:19 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah the patches will survive the winter just fine especially if we're talking about cyanescens. You will definitely want to feed them more wood chips and mulch every year. Douglas fir does just fine.


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25613523 - 11/14/18 03:44 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:
I had some small plant pots survive a moderate winter (-5 centigrade for a fortnight) with allenii in them. plenty of mulch and if she's really worried, keep the planters close to the house for that extra few degrees of warmth :laugh:


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: keeno]
    #25614230 - 11/14/18 12:09 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Since I can not post new threads of my own yet I am going to piggy back on this one since I am in the exact same situation. :-)

Question about timing of when potted beds are started.  I have several beds that were not inoculated until early September.  Fresh alder mulch (small chips, leaves, etc.) were inoculated with a mix od innoclated wood chips, saw dust, and cardboard.  Colonization seemed to happen very quickly and there is lovely rhizomorphic delicious ness popping through the surface!

Is it possible to get a small potted patch like this to fruit this season or am I dreaming? 

What if I throw ice on it?  Night time temps are already in the mid 30s so I am not sure this would matter.

What about exposing more of the lovely rhizomorphs niding under the leaves on the surface?

Should I use straw to protect against frost and pray for a late flush?

Is a Spring flush out of the question if it does not fruit now?

One of the potted patches is azzie and one is cyans.  It already looks like the azzie myc growth slowed when the temps dipped into the 30s. 

Any advice for patches that are late to seasons party are greatly appreciated.

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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: LeftSideDriver]
    #25614297 - 11/14/18 12:43 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

LeftSideDriver said:
Since I can not post new threads of my own yet I am going to piggy back on this one since I am in the exact same situation. :-)

Question about timing of when potted beds are started.  I have several beds that were not inoculated until early September.  Fresh alder mulch (small chips, leaves, etc.) were inoculated with a mix od innoclated wood chips, saw dust, and cardboard.  Colonization seemed to happen very quickly and there is lovely rhizomorphic delicious ness popping through the surface!

Is it possible to get a small potted patch like this to fruit this season or am I dreaming? 

What if I throw ice on it?  Night time temps are already in the mid 30s so I am not sure this would matter.

What about exposing more of the lovely rhizomorphs niding under the leaves on the surface?

Should I use straw to protect against frost and pray for a late flush?

Is a Spring flush out of the question if it does not fruit now?

One of the potted patches is azzie and one is cyans.  It already looks like the azzie myc growth slowed when the temps dipped into the 30s. 

Any advice for patches that are late to seasons party are greatly appreciated.




Throwing ice on it aint gonna do anything.

The cold shock, timed around the first frost of fall, can not be replicated by throwing ice your mycelium.

Maybe if you turned a refridgerator on it's side and put it over them but basically you can't really replicate how perfect nature is with it's incredibly fresh, cold, humid air.

Just hope for the best. Keep them wet if they start to dry out.

There should be plenty of time for fruiting. Rectopimento was finding cyans in january.


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25614304 - 11/14/18 12:44 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Its not a cold shock in general, it is a long cooling period


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: cronicr]
    #25614308 - 11/14/18 12:46 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah that's what i'm trying to get acrossed. It's a persistent thing, not something that happens once.


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25615261 - 11/14/18 08:16 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

So if a cultivated patch does fruit, is it better to pick before sporulation if one wants to keep the patch growing from an isolate (and just keep feeding it)?  I could see this being a good idea for a small contained patch but maybe for bigger patches its better to let some fruit sporulate?

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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: LeftSideDriver] * 1
    #25615330 - 11/14/18 08:58 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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So if a cultivated patch does fruit, is it better to pick before sporulation if one wants to keep the patch growing from an isolate (and just keep feeding it)?  I could see this being a good idea for a small contained patch but maybe for bigger patches its better to let some fruit sporulate?




That's a good question. I would think the genetics that already have a foothold would remain dominant even if the spores drop.

I gotta mull that one over, it depends on how many spores drop and how many germinate and how many make contact with the mycelium already there and share genetic information.

I think allowing spores to drop would probably be better for long term patch health.

If you continuously prevented spores from dropping I think the genetics would start to be affected by aging. Spore's dropping keeps the patch healthy and renewing.


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Re: PNW Outdoor grows? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25615587 - 11/15/18 02:22 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

my gut says let the spores drop, but it it's only based on a feel, and not any kind of science/ knowledge

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