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MrFahrenheit
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Is this bacterial?
#25612765 - 11/13/18 06:49 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This tray smells fine but I'm wondering what this spot is...
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Astonish
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Firstly your substrate is way over saturated. Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612803 - 11/13/18 06:58 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It should be fine, but make sure it gets more FAE.
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MrFahrenheit
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612843 - 11/13/18 07:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Astonish said: Firstly your substrate is way over saturated. Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
Is it? I don't mist it, that's just the water from the coir/verm/water mix. I have one 1x1 inch square hole cut on two sides of each tray stuffed with polyfill. Should I just cut two more?
And yeah some of the trays have metabolites, are you seeing it in this pic?
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612861 - 11/13/18 07:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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First off sorry if this is hijacking the thread
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Astonish said: Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
I have yellowish droplets on a cake when using PF TEK. Working on the second round and 2 cakes have definitely had yellowish drops. Are they no good?
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Dimensional Travel said: First off sorry if this is hijacking the thread
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Astonish said: Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
I have yellowish droplets on a cake when using PF TEK. Working on the second round and 2 cakes have definitely had yellowish drops. Are they no good?
you can still probably fruit it man, bacterial contam is not that grave of an issue as compared to other host of contaminants..
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Yeah bacterial contamination that is a major problem will be obvious and gross.
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Re: OP. If it smells shroomy (like you would expect it to), then you are probably fine. #1 indicator of bacteria is smell (sour, yeasty, you'll know something is wrong right off the bat -1st whiff). #2 is a total collapse of mycelial growth -it looks fine one day the next 'WTF!'. Weird discoloration caused by bacteria will typically happen on agar plates. Weird discoloration on substrate? -not so much.
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Re: Droplets on cakes. Probably just metabolites which mycelium sometimes produces (usually because conditions are not quite right). But I never do cakes so...
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Astonish
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pablokabute said:
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Dimensional Travel said: First off sorry if this is hijacking the thread
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Astonish said: Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
I have yellowish droplets on a cake when using PF TEK. Working on the second round and 2 cakes have definitely had yellowish drops. Are they no good?
you can still probably fruit it man, bacterial contam is not that grave of an issue as compared to other host of contaminants..
yellowish cakes can still be fruited fine. I’ve had bacterial subs in my first grows and still pulled a god dried oz of mushies. If you want an example of terrible nasty ass substrate that still fruited check this out.

 There is bacterial presence in your sub, but it’s not the worst thing that can happen. If u ever have mold, never open it in your house because the mold can produce spores And contaminate your grow area. But as far as it looks now it definitely will still fruit. Just be more careful next time when mixing spawn to sub. Still air box is best, but if you don’t have it Make sure vents are off for 30 mins then try. Again be thankful there is no trich or mold.
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612894 - 11/13/18 07:38 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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 It's gonna be fine brah
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Failboat]
#25612902 - 11/13/18 07:42 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Yeah bacterial contamination that is a major problem will be obvious and gross.
Yellow droplets from bacterial presence is not a major issue, definitely one of the lesser things To worry about. At least it’s not trich.
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Astonish
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Dimensional Travel said: First off sorry if this is hijacking the thread
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Astonish said: Second if you see yellowish color / droplets it’s definitely indicative of bacterial presence.
I have yellowish droplets on a cake when using PF TEK. Working on the second round and 2 cakes have definitely had yellowish drops. Are they no good?
They should still be good. Bacterial obviously, but still can fruit. Spent cakes, it’s better to mix into potting soil rather than thrown away because you can get more fruits that way.
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Failboat]
#25612911 - 11/13/18 07:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said:
 It's gonna be fine brah
Dear god.
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612927 - 11/13/18 07:51 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Perfect example I had a couple bacterial quarts I spawned cuz I didn't want to waste them, I hate to waste anything. I got a pretty solid first flush off this shoebox, working on second now.

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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Astonish]
#25612928 - 11/13/18 07:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The pic you posted is not discolored from bacteria (sorry). It is (was) probably Botrytis (a brown mold). This is why you still got fruits. Botrytis is not particularly aggressive to fruit-bodies. If that tub was so messed-up looking from bacteria, there is little chance of any harvest. Tubs that are a bit bacterial can be fruited with some success, but not if the bacteria presented itself in such a graphic way. Botrytis.
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scarabaeus said: The pic you posted is not discolored from bacteria (sorry). It is (was) probably Botrytis (a brown mold). This is why you still got fruits. Botrytis is not particularly aggressive to fruit-bodies. If that tub was so messed-up looking from bacteria, there is little chance of any harvest. Tubs that are a bit bacterial can be fruited with some success, but not if the bacteria presented itself in such a graphic way. Botrytis.
It was definitely bacterial, and not mold. Bags started with yellow droplets and turned yellowish.
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: MH5109]
#25612944 - 11/13/18 08:00 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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MH5109 said: Perfect example I had a couple bacterial quarts I spawned cuz I didn't want to waste them, I hate to waste anything. I got a pretty solid first flush off this shoebox, working on second now.


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MrFahrenheit
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scarabaeus said: Re: OP. If it smells shroomy (like you would expect it to), then you are probably fine. #1 indicator of bacteria is smell (sour, yeasty, you'll know something is wrong right off the bat -1st whiff). #2 is a total collapse of mycelial growth -it looks fine one day the next 'WTF!'. Weird discoloration caused by bacteria will typically happen on agar plates. Weird discoloration on substrate? -not so much.
Air! More air!. She's gotta breathe...
Re: Droplets on cakes. Probably just metabolites which mycelium sometimes produces (usually because conditions are not quite right). But I never do cakes so...
Alright. I suppose I'll cut a few more holes in the trays tomorrow. Or would you recommend removing the polyfill? Since they're in the fruiting stage.
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Show your setup, im not sure what you really have going on
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Re: Is this bacterial? [Re: Failboat]
#25612964 - 11/13/18 08:11 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Show your setup, im not sure what you really have going on
 There is a space heater at the bottom of the tent that blows air around in there
Edited by MrFahrenheit (11/13/18 08:12 PM)
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