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kanna
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growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms?
#25609295 - 11/12/18 11:44 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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hi,
is it possible to grow cubensis using the grow kits that are prepared for oyster shrooms and the like? like this (https://www.cylocybe.com/collections/grow-and-spawn-kits/products/pf-tek-mushroom-grow-kit-tubs)
any information much appreciated!
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rainout
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: kanna]
#25609304 - 11/12/18 11:49 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, the pf tek was literally created to be used for cubensis because there are better ways to do Oysters mushrooms, so if you want to do buy it just do it.
Also, PF TEK is really easy to do, are you sure you wanna buy it?
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: rainout]
#25609424 - 11/12/18 12:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't waste your time & money, just follow directions and make it yourself from the Tek. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086
Edited by LtLurker (11/12/18 12:33 PM)
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Sellith
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: LtLurker]
#25609428 - 11/12/18 12:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah buy a pressure cooker because that's really all they did, filled the container with grain/substrate and pressure cooked it.
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: Sellith]
#25609436 - 11/12/18 12:38 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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You don't even need that. PF Cakes can be done with steaming in a normal pot no problem.
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rainout
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: LtLurker]
#25609994 - 11/12/18 04:41 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Rice doesnt have that many endoespores count, so you are safe to youst team, no need por a PC
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kanna
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: kanna]
#25610994 - 11/13/18 01:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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thanks for all the replies everyone! i'm in a bit of a parents-can't-find-out kind of situation, so pressure cooking is a bit of a difficult step, so i might have to resort to picking one of these kits and some spore syringes up. if i get the one with the bag to maintain humidity, do i still need to make a fruiting chamber? or just take the lid off the pot when i've inoculated then put the bag on top?
thanks!
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: kanna]
#25611167 - 11/13/18 04:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you're planning to go from MS syringe to bag of grain there is a high chance of contams, because the syringe solution isn't sterilized. But you can still try it.
This will help:

It's cheaper to follow the advice of the others though and do PF cakes with steaming in a normal pot.
You could arguably do an extra step with your mycelium, like make leather out of it - or dry the small mushrooms and use them to pour molten metal into a mold to have real silver little mushroom pendants or something artistic - to help explain to your parents why you're growing them without showing their magic directly they can still enjoy it's magic that way. Probably doesn't work in all situations.
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: Sellith]
#25611267 - 11/13/18 06:56 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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careful mate, parents have a way of finding shit out...
 good luck going full stealth
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rainout
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: kanna]
#25611275 - 11/13/18 07:03 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
kanna said: thanks for all the replies everyone! i'm in a bit of a parents-can't-find-out kind of situation, so pressure cooking is a bit of a difficult step, so i might have to resort to picking one of these kits and some spore syringes up. if i get the one with the bag to maintain humidity, do i still need to make a fruiting chamber? or just take the lid off the pot when i've inoculated then put the bag on top?
thanks!
Just hide them in you closet, yo be honest you dont need that much space for small monos or pf teks for what I saw. Buy a small package of vermiculite through internet and retrive it on the box office, not on your house, you can get a 5 liter package quite easily. Getting brown rice in the states is easy, the sell it even on some wallmarts. As for the steaming process, you can do it yourself you just need 2 hours alone. The only downside to this is that you will need a SAB for anything, but you will also need one to inoculate, so is the same.
You could also make a secret compartment if you want.
You can spawn the bag as it is if you want, or you can build a monotube for it or spawn it as it is, is your choise.
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: Sellith]
#25611297 - 11/13/18 07:16 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Sellith said: If you're planning to go from MS syringe to bag of grain there is a high chance of contams, because the syringe solution isn't sterilized. But you can still try it.
This will help:

It's cheaper to follow the advice of the others though and do PF cakes with steaming in a normal pot.
You could arguably do an extra step with your mycelium, like make leather out of it - or dry the small mushrooms and use them to pour molten metal into a mold to have real silver little mushroom pendants or something artistic - to help explain to your parents why you're growing them without showing their magic directly they can still enjoy it's magic that way. Probably doesn't work in all situations.
If you follow this image just remember that cubensis really don like wood that much, wood is better for oysters or another edible mushrooms. it can be done, but not with good results.
Also thats terible advice, no parent (even a naive one) will believe about the artistic part. If you really want to grow with your parents knowing, the only thing I can recommend is growing normal edible mushrooms first, then switch to shrooms.
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Re: growing cubensis with conventional prepared grow kits for regular shrooms? [Re: kanna]
#25611385 - 11/13/18 07:16 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This thread has been closed.
Reason: If you're growing in a residence everyone who lives in that residence needs to be in the know. Hiding a grow from a room mate is a dick move. Hiding a grow from someone who owns or is responsible for the residence is a super dick move.
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