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InvisibleTheMadHatter420
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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality]
    #25605394 - 11/10/18 01:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

He NEEDS to drop the spent coffee grounds in his substrate, that shit encourages mold more than it helps. Nutrients should come from your spawn, not be incorporated into the substrate.

Let shoebox colonize in light, not in the dark.

Surface conditions were not right, and the fruits found a better spot along the sides.


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality]
    #25605396 - 11/10/18 01:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I'm just going to repeat myself. Keep the lid on the shoebox until your pinset comes in. Then you can flip another one on top.

 

Easy way to keep surface conditions ideal. Once you have pins everywhere the fruits will help hold humidity better when you dub tub it.

Making the shoebox too airy too early could dry it out a little.


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25605425 - 11/10/18 01:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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TheMadHatter420 said:
He NEEDS to drop the spent coffee grounds in his substrate, that shit encourages mold more than it helps. Nutrients should come from your spawn, not be incorporated into the substrate.

Let shoebox colonize in light, not in the dark.

Surface conditions were not right, and the fruits found a better spot along the sides.




OP needs agar, grains and yeah, to stop using coffee grounds. OP said their cakes were "pinning" before they crumbled them. If they can do that proficiently maybe they need to use a SGFC or tub to put the cakes in and grow like that. That way they will get a more hands on experience with proper surface conditions


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: LotKid]
    #25605437 - 11/10/18 02:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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No, it wouldn't have.

I fucked up the surface conditions and all the pins on the first flush (what few there were) came out the sides and nothing on the surface where I wanted them.

Flipped the sub and got a kick-ass second flush. I've done it with more than 1 tub too. Why? Because nobody's perfect.

I need to go get me a box of cracker jacks. Maybe I can find me a TC tag at the bottom too.




Well I'm glad that your year of experience tells you that. My 15 tells me to leave it the fuck alone. I'm allowed to grow how I want and give whatever advice I want. I tell people what has worked reliably for me. Judge all you want, I'll keep pushing canopies.


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i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #25605592 - 11/10/18 03:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Homie don't let the registered on date fool you.

I pulled my first harvest from a mono in 2007 dawg!

This is like my 3rd account. Just my most active.

Homie you don't want to start posting shot for shot canopies with me.


I'm just gonna go ahead and leave you alone, bud.


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Edit... sorry but you say you're allowed to give whatever kind of info you want right? Is this the kind of attitude for a TC?

Food for thought noobs... can't always trust a tag or a registered on date. :super:



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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: LotKid] * 1
    #25605624 - 11/10/18 03:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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LotKid said:
Homie don't let the registered on date fool you.

I pulled my first harvest from a mono in 2007 dawg!

This is like my 3rd account. Just my most active.

Homie you don't want to start posting shot for shot canopies with me.


I'm just gonna go ahead and leave you alone, bud.


GDF NFA

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PEACE!!

Edit... sorry but you say you're allowed to give whatever kind of info you want right? Is this the kind of attitude for a TC?

Food for thought noobs... can't always trust a tag or a registered on date. :super:






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Bruh, you're way too salty. Learning to agree to disagree will serve you well


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality]
    #25605626 - 11/10/18 03:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

And this is why awesome growers leave the site... :facepalm:


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: LotKid]
    #25605854 - 11/10/18 06:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I'll just leave with this: I never asked for a tag. I logged on one day and just had it. It wasn't discussed with me. And honestly, I don't care about it. I've tried to sell it a couple times, lol. It doesn't make my dick bigger or make me a better grower.

I'm half tempted to ask the mods to take it away so you people will STFU about it.

I gave my advice. Take it if you want. I don't care. Enough with the stupid drama.


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A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: 36fuckin5] * 2
    #25606061 - 11/10/18 08:10 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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It doesn't make my dick bigger...






Clearly you got an older model tag because I'm enjoying the full girth it grants. :aweohyou:


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality]
    #25606108 - 11/10/18 08:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah seems like BRF isn't the way to go I'm getting a grains n agar test run going now. Is coir the best substrate to use for bulk though? I'd think compost would provide the most suitable fruiting environment

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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: myrules]
    #25606163 - 11/10/18 09:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah seems like BRF isn't the way to go I'm getting a grains n agar test run going now. Is coir the best substrate to use for bulk though? I'd think compost would provide the most suitable fruiting environment





I like coir because it's easy to obtain, cheap, and very easy to prepare. I've used the bucket tek many times over with no issues. Creating healthy colonized spawn is the main focus when growing bulk


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality] * 1
    #25606217 - 11/10/18 09:59 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Alright. Jumping in with no penis at all...You don't need anything but coir to grow a good tub of fruits. And attention to detail...not girth.

BUT, if you are growing penis, you should probably have a casing...rubber, whatever. It keeps the surface better for fruiting...What have you.

You'll be alright, but cakes are...Well...not capable of giving one optimum results.

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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: myrules]
    #25606223 - 11/10/18 10:00 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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myrules said:
Yeah seems like BRF isn't the way to go I'm getting a grains n agar test run going now. Is coir the best substrate to use for bulk though? I'd think compost would provide the most suitable fruiting environment



Brf spawned to coir can get you awesome results.:awesomenod:
No need to "add" anything extra.
Get your cakes colonized 100%.(no need to consolidate)
Shred cakes into your container and mix with field capacity coir.
Make sure you get it right.For me proper field capacity is a big part of being able to set-n-forget.
Don't over mist.I don't mist at all till first flush.(proper field capacity comes in here)
Whether using brf cakes or agar/grain,you have to get your surface conditions down.
It's not the brf cakes fault. :crying:
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Long time supporter of brf to bulk.:biggrin:


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: mushroomnate] * 1
    #25606246 - 11/10/18 10:17 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Bro, you CAN crumble cakes to coir and have very good results. For sure. I never even grew out a cake. I crumbled mine...cos...Well...I want production, right? But agar to grain will trump cakes crumbled to shoe boxes. For sure.

Remember the credo? Patience?


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: 36fuckin5] * 1
    #25606292 - 11/10/18 10:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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36fuckin5 said:
I'll just leave with this: I never asked for a tag. I logged on one day and just had it. It wasn't discussed with me. And honestly, I don't care about it. I've tried to sell it a couple times, lol. It doesn't make my dick bigger or make me a better grower.



If you could sell it then that would mean you have control over it.

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I'm half tempted to ask the mods to take it away so you people will STFU about it.



But you won't. I dare you! If I see with no tag I'll have a whole new respect for you. Until then... you're all fucking talk, homie.
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I gave my advice. Take it if you want. I don't care. Enough with the stupid drama.



And this gives you the right to call someone else's (proven and backed up with pics) advice "dumb"?

I understand why the TC tag was created. But noobs take the word of a TC as gospel.

Sorry, I couldn't leave it alone.

Maybe the TC tag shouldn't be handed out willy nilly.

I'd rather not have one.

The boards would probably be better off without them.

Hamloaf had his tag taken and he had to fight for it back yet other TCs are allowed to do this bullshit and get away with it? Are you fucking kidding me?!?

If the ppl who run the shroomery let this kind of attitude run rampant in those they choose to be "trusted" then the future of this hobby is ineed... in jeopardy.

If any admins are looking I'm letting you know now. Off the boards... the TC tag is a fucking joke!



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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: ShroomyToons]
    #25607104 - 11/11/18 12:07 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Bro, you CAN crumble cakes to coir and have very good results. For sure. I never even grew out a cake. I crumbled mine...cos...Well...I want production, right? But agar to grain will trump cakes crumbled to shoe boxes. For sure.

Remember the credo? Patience?





Cakes are cool for getting your feet wet. But grain to grain is the probably the best way to expand a culture from 1 jar to 100 jars. Whether it be with a slurry or the old fashion way.


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: DreamReality]
    #25608645 - 11/12/18 07:12 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed. But if you're wanting a little more out a cake and you need to get clones, that cake crumble will work. Even though it does have a fairly high chance of contams if it isn't nicely colonized.

I was just trying to help the guy maximize fruit potential. But agar, to grain, to grain expansion is really the way to fly. And for a noob, skip the slurry...In my opinion, anyway. :smile:


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: ShroomyToons]
    #25609537 - 11/12/18 01:28 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I always wanted to slice some cakes up with a nice sharp knife. Then put down a thin layer of coir in the tub. Lay down slices of cakes to cover the whole bottom and then cover with a layer of coir. Without the crumbling it shouldn't contaminate as easily.


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: TheMadHatter420]
    #25609551 - 11/12/18 01:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I always wanted to slice some cakes up with a nice sharp knife. Then put down a thin layer of coir in the tub. Lay down slices of cakes to cover the whole bottom and then cover with a layer of coir. Without the crumbling it shouldn't contaminate as easily.




sounds like it would work oot, though cheese grater will get it down to spread mixed in the coir. guess a side by side would be needed to see which colonizes at a better rate.. neat idea.


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Re: Bulk: Mushrooms will only grow on walls [Re: ithikuss]
    #25609698 - 11/12/18 02:42 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

YEA, but grating it opens it up to being over taken by contamination.


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