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Solipsis
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Spore print legality
#25604448 - 11/10/18 01:08 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey all,
does anyone know how it is possible that cube prints are sold legally by legit smartshops, I mean: at some point they originated from fruits which were not legal right?
Do these come from licensed growers somehow?? Is this regulated, done in places in the world where it is not illegal anyway, or produced and delivered anonymously?
I'm wondering because of potential other applications of spores
Edited by Solipsis (11/10/18 01:12 AM)
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teladi
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Re: Spore print legality [Re: Solipsis]
#25604474 - 11/10/18 02:02 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_psilocybin_mushrooms
In many jurisdictions spores are legal since they don't contain any controlled substance. In others, spores are illegal because they can be used to make something that contains a controlled substance. It's easy enough for any lawyer to argue that a spore print may have come from anywhere, including areas where these mushrooms are legal, or from an organisation that has permission to grow.
A private individual in possession of spores could be prosecuted by an overzealous LEA arguing that there is intent to produce an illegal drug.
The legality of cannabis seeds is just as much of a gray area. Have a look at https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=34192593-815c-4989-b331-36077963cb5f for an interesting situation.
Edited by teladi (11/10/18 03:03 AM)
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Tstone
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Re: Spore print legality [Re: teladi]
#25604827 - 11/10/18 08:15 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Curious as well. How do legit vendors, in the US obtain their spores. Need chickens to get an egg.
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ithikuss
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Re: Spore print legality [Re: Tstone]
#25604841 - 11/10/18 08:21 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tstone said: Curious as well. How do legit vendors, in the US obtain their spores. Need chickens to get an egg.
comes down to like Teladi said, it's a grey area. Most grey areas of legality arn't gonna be worth the time of law enforcement, as it's not a guaranteed slam dunk of a case. Not to say they wouldn't keep a loose eye for anything that would be, 'building' said case... but that could take many many years if they're doing such correctly and by the book waiting for sufficient evidence of something that is 'concrete'. anywho, yeah... not worth time and money with other issues going on with the silly war on drugs in the US.
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sandman420
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Re: Spore print legality [Re: ithikuss]
#25604880 - 11/10/18 08:41 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Spores are sold for educational purposes ONLY, like to look at under a microscope. It would be a crime to sell or buy spores with the intent, even just implied, of growing them.
Where they get these prints are not regulated or licensed or controlled in any way. That is the up to the retailer and they do not have to disclose that information.
You could potentially be charged with a crime if you have spores and also other growing items together and intent but that is unlikely and would only come from doing some other crimes that brought the attention.
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Solipsis
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Re: Spore print legality [Re: sandman420]
#25605791 - 11/10/18 05:22 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK so that doesn't make them try to track it back to mushrooms growers or something? That's kinda what i thought but a friend and I weren't in agreement on that.. Say though that you were to use the spores not for education nor growing but a product that in part involves releasing them back into nature (NOT like guerilla farming, but just releasing em) - seems like that makes this whole grey area even greyer.
I guess this could increase the odds that someone (even if incorrectly) starts suspecting that it supports or encourages illegal activities simply because it is not microscopy use? Not sure how easily a case is argued that just releasing/spreading them is innocent, and similarly when the application is related to art/design.
And then also: this matter is likely different depending on whether it applies to the Netherlands or to a US state and if the latter: which state..
interesting! thnx for the replies
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