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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: WhiteVeil] * 1
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WhiteVeil said:
I think you had an experience that made you think of your death, how other people would feel, how you would feel. You've experienced a lot of empathy from it, and that's not a bad thing, it's pretty common. I've had the alternate realities experience myself, to the point where I'm double checking if things are real or acting how they should.

I guess this experience would be considered an ego death for you, a weird one at that. I think it is normal to feel like you're dying or disappearing to where ever when an ego death occurs.


That’s good advice or a nice thing to say. Could you give any examples of some experiences you’ve had?

There was more to than just running into the wall. It was like my senses got highly sharpened, and my animal faculties were more accute, whether just delusion in my head or not.

Luckily, I knew this chick once who said she did acid, and was riding her bike (she said she didn’t know who Hofmann was, if that matters), suddenly she fell, and was fixing her bike. Then she said a lady came to help her up, and then realized she wasn’t even fixing her bike - just doing random stuff on the ground. The lady gave her a ride home after she snapped out of that.

So it could be similar to any one of those experiences. I can remember the vision fading, more and more, but can’t quite place when it actually started, besides just running. It seemed like people were chasing me, and some of the people I saw, may not have been real, just realistic images (or hallucinations)! Although, some of them could have been. That’s one reason why I don’t like acid that much, its Aztec, crystal, Mexican like vibes can just be waaaay too extreme for me, I’m used to DMT mainly, which is way more insane than mushrooms. I’ve been wanting to use more mushrooms after my DMT experiences, mainly because they last a little longer, or just ayahuasca.

Mushrooms aren’t really like the DMT experiences I’ve had, and I used to get pissed when I’d get shut out, or even weird, sub breakthrough doses.

LSD and mushrooms can both look like initial stages of DMT hyperspace, but they never do the same thing, just quite. They go in different directions from there. Recreational use, I don’t really know about. DMT was curiosity, psilocybin microdosing might be good for depression. I know that acid had promise in anti-anxiety, but think people only really try them a few times, so you can’t really keep administering them like that. People should just cherish the true experiences they get from them instead of keep trying to go back.

The acid trip was insane. It was like, communication with ancient forces or deities - I can’t think of psilocybin at the moment because my head starts to hurt a little. It was different from DMT hyperspace entities. They were saying Man is fucked, and one serpent, snake like entity spirit told me they were going to annihilate the earth (via human actions, climate change). I said is there anything we can do? Then it asked its master, and said no. It’s a part of the grand design, or scheme. At this point I was still running down the street. I kept thinking and thinking, relying on my mushroom, weed, and DMT experiences for assistance or reassurance, but hope still seemed grim.

It must have been the whole “universal love” thing. And we were failing, that’s why the world is the way it is these days(? I guess just mostly global warming and resource depletion). I was going to tell people and relay the info, so we can make a change, if what they were saying was even true (and it sorta seemed to be). The Masters of the Outer Darkness can appear as snakes/serpents, and they always say this or that, like how they run things but actually don’t. I still get a weird jester feeling from LSD, so was never really sure about some of it. It always seemed annoying and like mushrooms would be better or more sedative feeling, less speedy-meth oriented like acid. I don’t think anyone can really find the time to do all that.

I only didn’t stop running because I noticed I wasn’t getting tired. It had a “stimulant” feel to it, then I ran through the wall, still panicked, but basically laughed it off when all was said and done. It was all I could do... Like I said it was only until I dosed again months later, that I started thinking about it, and the place I was in at life, or my position in social standings, so I started to think it was like a karmic Hell, to put it kindly. What can I say, it’s supposed to be tongue in cheek, reality is made of language and meaning, so it seemed to be that. I don’t think it would have been the same if it weren’t for my DMT work. I don’t think I would have tried it on mushrooms, let alone a high enough dose. I think mushrooms take you to “the dome” as well, except DMT is just too fast and awesome, you don’t have much time think about spiritual growth as you would with psilocybin, the wave it hits you with, is completely overwhelming. Don’t get me wrong, I like mushrooms too and find them interesting, and they’re strong, and since DMT is basically mushrooms/psilocybin in freebase format, it acts similarly, needing to be compressed in 5 minutes, can be capable of teaching you astounding things about the universe.

I think acid has mind control capabilities, I’d like to think some AI or VR machine took control of my brain’s mind waves that caused it to manipulate my body, so it could have been like some military or alien technology someone was using to control me. It would have basically implanted that vision in my mind, while something else was happening, perhaps as “karma” or paying for some deeds I had recently done (could have been mean to this or that person, or didn’t talk to this girl or that girl). I think some people are sensitive to it. Abusing any power isn’t really the key, I don’t think.

I thought I had ego death with DMT, even mushrooms, but that sum total of acid experience, was just too much for me. It’s more “ingrained in reality”, whereas mushrooms/DMT are more meditative, inner space like. Mushrooms might be the best, although ayahuasca could be the psychedelic experience most people are expecting or thinking of. It’s about living in the now, and also balance, if the goal is to be happy, or not be shortsighted in how to survive as a man or member of society. So no, coping with that kind of stress on the mental psyche, is too much.

DMT was different, it was usually like “Aw, I’ll never be able to explain or describe this, this feeling this emotion, the way the hyperspace conveyed the information to me, it was just impossible to comprehend or remember.” I feel like I still understood what was basically going on, just that it couldn’t be described or explained, it was just beautiful. Then, I started to feel weird when I realized it might be strange the most beauty or art you can take, realize, or behold, has to be done via smoking some drug, instead of observing like an awe-inspiring act of kindness or something.


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Edited by Blabble40 (02/24/19 05:34 PM)

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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Blabble40]
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It's just acid man. I've taken large doses and end up walking around in the forest in the dark looking for creatures that I can hear but not see, then the next thing I know found myself shoeless and pantless at home watching the computer. Found my pants a few days later down the beach (hurray), but never found my shoes. I've got a few stories like this.

I understand the shock and doubt afterwards, not knowing what really happened and realising how much danger you were in. But it fades in time. You just learn to accept the head fuck.


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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Northerner] * 2
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dose carefully, or say goodbye to your shoes.


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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: redgreenvines]
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I just meant that they may have been "tainted with fentanyl" as a joke or wordplay because if it was a death experience or death/rebirth situation (such as those any entheogens are known to sometimes facilitate) it could have just been all in my mind, and began the moment any entered my body's fluid system. Therein, it could have just been playing through my head. However, any kind of psychedelic such as LSD might have those mind trip or mind warp like effects. So I don't think fentanyl or any opiod pain killer crisis has anything to do with it and rather psychoactive substances in question can be more potent than one might suppose.


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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Blabble40]
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lsd + weed is always a gamble ime. never know what will happen

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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: mt cleverest]
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mt cleverest said:
lsd + weed is always a gamble ime. never know what will happen



That depends on when you smoke it. LSD’s plateau really can encompass two or perhaps even more peaks. It’s unpredictable and hard to really say if “experienced” users are out there.

However in the case of this dose and experience, it still makes me uncomfortable, so to speak. It wouldn’t say it was due to a lack of education. You don’t black out, but it could be easier with a trustier “guide”. It wasn’t suicide or a death wish so to speak, but a bizarre thought process. A total hallucination can also encompass or inspire any confidence if you wish to call it that in a commentary.

The real serious thoughts about a real death didn’t seriously occur until a subsequent acid dose almost two months later. Then it became more a PTSD like burden because of the trauma. It was a complete deficit and lack of empathy use of the heart chakra (Anahata) and warmth. There was no real connection with any other person or being whatsoever.

In that mindset, i tried using my weed, LSD, mushroom, DMT, and salvia experience to guide but it didn’t work. It seemed the most like salvia, oddly. The entities were easy enough to communicate with, or recognize and acknowledge. It also made me become overly sensitive.

There was peer pressure, but I didn’t always succumb. It’s similar to when other people mash provocations at you to try and get an answer but you have no idea what’s going on and that they may even be doing that, so you may react not how anyone expects especially during any proper socialization, which doesn’t really occur with every person you come across technically.

The weed becomes especially more potent or noticeable with a tolerance even. It’s because the acid. It can take some by surprise.

The only thing is any training I have, not proper but more self taught from books I read, is shamanic in nature. An initiation is usually a death like vision, and so they are comfortable or familiar with the idea of it. It could be fake or real, but the implications didn’t seem too considerable until some time occurred to sink it into me. I consider it an overdose.

The other major LSD experience I’ve had was direct contact with inner space and any entities that may have been there who showed me God, or what the universe was. DMT does it too but it’s way too fast and visual to really get anything out of it.

It’s hard for some to interpret, when you pass out like that and a dream like vision occurs. Acid feels way too similar to a stimulant which really seems to have nothing to do with the concept of psychedelic or mind manifestation unless you compare it to MDMA.

I don’t consider it anything outside the realm of acid or the culture. No one thinks they’ll be the person who thinks they can fly and jumps off a building on mushrooms. LSD has a “sense of humor”, but mushrooms are more user friendly and kind to beginners.


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Edited by Blabble40 (10/01/19 10:16 AM)

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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Blabble40]
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Not an overdose per se, but a dose unexpectedly potent and unintended. I’m pretty sure somewhere around 3 00-350 mcgs was the goal. Took 3 or 4 tabs but there was no info, so they could have been 120 or so mcgs each.


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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Blabble40]
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That idea also incorporates aspects of Philip K. Dick literature and philosophy regardless of whether fentanyl or overdosing on a specific substance was mentioned or not. In this case it particularly resembles something more like Ubik than anything else.


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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: Blabble40]
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On multiple different acid trips my phone has stopped playing music when I move my hand close to it. Only on acid this happens, another trip I spoke with telepathy to my girlfriend. Another trip I tried to see if I could communicate to a bird with my mind. It turned round, looked me right in the eye and walked towards me really close

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Re: Really weird experience with LSD [Re: ColourSoul]
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Yeah, happened to me also.

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