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How to do Shaman?
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Goal:

To expand and elevate the consciousness of the entire human race

I don’t want a college answer. I want a real answer.

Where? - what organization focuses on accepting people?
How? - website?
What? - location and experience?

Basically I want to be a committed “spiritual teacher” or otherwise, a shaman. I seek teaching. I am dedicated to this path

Posting on multiple forums


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If you know. You know. I can't do this alone. Neither can you. Not any longer we can't. It's too late. We must save this earth. I'm passionate about this REAL journey. Will you assist?

Not assist me; assist everything


Edited by Suitable (11/07/18 01:11 PM)

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Suitable]
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From Your own experience...

You say "To expand and elevate the consciousness of the entire human race".

Perhaps You just answered Your own question?
One's access to the psychedelic world can be quite profound.

Edited by heatlessbbq (11/07/18 01:37 PM)

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: heatlessbbq]
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Most teachers for shamans grow in nature. Right?


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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sellith] * 1
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It depends...  :bigblunt:

What species of nature does Your garden grow?

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: heatlessbbq]
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I'd say go to nature places and figure out what you can do there to expand and elevate the consciousness of the entire human race. Maybe alone maybe not.


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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sellith] * 3
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shamans are not taught by people. but plants. the person that can aid you the most on this journey is thyself

shy away from anyone spouting nonsense. IE terrence mckenna or alan watts don't get me wrong wise words are wise words no matter where they come from. but terrence mckenna wouldn't know what consciousness is to save his life


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
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Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sellith] * 1
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I think that raising the collective consciousness of humanity would be the last thing on a shaman’s mind. They’re usually concerned with smaller scale social concerns in the tribe, or divining weather patterns pertinent to crops and other practical concerns.

Wanting to raise the consciousness of humanity is an ego projection in disguise true shamans would likely scoff at.

Then again, maybe I read too much anthropological literature.

I think that a lot of these Western approximations of shamanism—website seminars and such—are laughable. Go to the amazon or Siberia and apprentice.

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
shamans are not taught by people. but plants. the person that can aid you the most on this journey is thyself

shy away from anyone spouting nonsense.



What an interesting journey...

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: heatlessbbq] * 1
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A shaman is the person in the tribe who get's everyone high.

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: CountHTML]
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CountHTML said:
I think that raising the collective consciousness of humanity would be the last thing on a shaman’s mind. They’re usually concerned with smaller scale social concerns in the tribe, or divining weather patterns pertinent to crops and other practical concerns.

Wanting to raise the consciousness of humanity is an ego projection in disguise true shamans would likely scoff at.

Then again, maybe I read too much anthropological literature.

I think that a lot of these Western approximations of shamanism—website seminars and such—are laughable. Go to the amazon or Siberia and apprentice.



amen


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: CountHTML]
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CountHTML said: Wanting to raise the consciousness of humanity is an ego projection in disguise true shamans would likely scoff at.



So we shouldn't strive to wake people up and create a better world, and instead just accept things as they are and live our own individual lives even though we gotta put up with the way things are and all the bullshit?

Fuck that, i say people should wake up from their ignorance and see the vast potential of the Human race and what all we could do if people just realize all this shit we think is real in so called "reality" is what's actually the ego projection and illusion, it's imaginary, therefore we could completely change the game and create a new vision for the world, but this is definitely not an ego projection, it's serious business, it's enlightenment/illumination, it's a much better idea than just putting up with the way things are.


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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Suitable]
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Read Terence McKenna.


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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
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The maelstrom that is the human race has hit epic proportions Sabnock, I don't think we can turn the tide globally anymore. Is that defeatist or realist?

I think all we can do is effect our immediate surrounds. Reject negativity, connect with the ever present, conserve and rejuvenate all that we touch. Encourage those who want to learn and become more, and avoid those who would destroy us because we do not conform. Grow a garden and commune with it, learn slowly and be honest with ourselves. Speak truthfully or be silent.


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We are the music makers, the dreamers of dreams.

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: saythatagain]
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saythatagain said:
Read Terence McKenna.



There are more than enough McKenna knock offs out there.

OP. Just trip and figure it out on your own. No one can grant you the title of shaman unless that’s a huge part of your culture. It’s just something you kind of become over time.

Good luck and good vibes!!


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Real Eyes Realize Real Lies.

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
The maelstrom that is the human race has hit epic proportions Sabnock, I don't think we can turn the tide globally anymore. Is that defeatist or realist?

I think all we can do is effect our immediate surrounds. Reject negativity, connect with the ever present, conserve and rejuvenate all that we touch. Encourage those who want to learn and become more, and avoid those who would destroy us because we do not conform. Grow a garden and commune with it, learn slowly and be honest with ourselves. Speak truthfully or be silent.



True, but i'm more of the mindset to try and try again, keep trying, even till the last breath. But yes, work on ourselves, on our immediate surroundings, try to get people interested, and don't waste much time/effort on trying to wake people up who clearly don't wanna wake up, but one can still dream and try to make that dream a reality lol.


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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sabnock] * 1
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Sabnock said:
Quote:
CountHTML said: Wanting to raise the consciousness of humanity is an ego projection in disguise true shamans would likely scoff at.



So we shouldn't strive to wake people up and create a better world, and instead just accept things as they are and live our own individual lives even though we gotta put up with the way things are and all the bullshit?

Fuck that, i say people should wake up from their ignorance and see the vast potential of the Human race and what all we could do if people just realize all this shit we think is real in so called "reality" is what's actually the ego projection and illusion, it's imaginary, therefore we could completely change the game and create a new vision for the world, but this is definitely not an ego projection,... it's a much better idea than just putting up with the way things are.



Quote:
it's serious business, it's enlightenment/illumination



Cheers, Mate.:leocheers:

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: heatlessbbq] * 3
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I think youre limiting yourself to think that you need to be something specific in order to influence humanity.

be something new, be something bold. be something charismatic. the digital age can get you across the globe if you can only learn how to connect


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"Remember, kids, the difference between science and screwing around is writing it down" -adam savage
Flowchart for Recommended plan of action.
Learn the tried and true way to grow mushrooms
Use the Damn search engine
After you know what you're doing, take a break 
Pick a book, Make some chips!
Josex said:Don't take the site seriously bro, ain't worth it.
 

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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#BecomeYourOwnShaman

It's either in you or not, nobody grants you the power to become a Shaman, you become it your self naturally. The teaching you seek is within yourself, and plant medicines.


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"In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
All-That Is
Perceives Itself"

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
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Start with yourself.

Then help those who's path you cross who are open and receptive to what you have to offer


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Within You , Without You


:mushroom2::levitate::mushroom2:

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Re: How to do Shaman? [Re: Sabnock] * 2
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People don’t want to be woken up. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I guess I’m just biased towards the advaita Vedanta nondual point of view that everything is perfectly imperfect. Identification with the “witness” beneath contents of consciousness yields no judgements. I read too much Ramana Maharshi.

I have a general, I guess you could call it disdain, toward gimmicky new age “shamanism” and pseudo spirituality. It’s this weird superficial intrigue with the archaic that’s insulting to such misunderstood traditions. “Shamans” in the West are thrown in loony bins, or avoided by the very people who do yoga or spend too much money on Kambucha, or who think they can add the title somewhere next to their other titles and initiations after attending an Internet or weekend workshop.

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