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Monotub conversion to SGFC?
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Can I convert a 40-quart monotub (with six holes) to a SGFC simply by drilling lots of holes in the bottom and top and adding wet perlite?  Would this work or would a 60-quart one be better with the all the small holes as per spec?

Is the most important flow of air from the bottom to the top to suck moisture out through the perlite?


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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In theory SGFC is supposed to wich sir from underneath out trough the top but who can demonstrate that this is so? :shrug:


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: Mateja]
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Alright thanks, I will have a go at it :wink:


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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60qts works good, i've read that even 20qts work :wink:. For most people the bigger the better because of space.

Yes, that is the direccion of air flow due to the differences of pressure, so the bottom holes are very important. follow the tek and you will have success


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: ElViajero]
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i dont think is hard to demonstrate it.... :rasta:


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: ElViajero]
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Alright... might get two 40 quart monotubs and just stick them together with the top one upside down...Then I would have 80 quarts 😉 Cheers


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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Want a chamber appropriately sized for the number of cakes you're doing... space them 4" or so from walls and one another... easier to maintain humidity if you limit space per cake... I've seen more noobs having success with Mateah's humidity chamber  , which has the added advantage of not requiring modification


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Thanks Caps, It is for pan cyans, hence I am not sure if Mateah’s chamber would have enough aitlr flow.  I did have some regular 60 quart SGFCs a few years ago that worked with hydrated perlite in the bottom, but I threw them out and was hoping to modify existing monotubs


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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AgarStudent said:
I am not sure if Mateah’s chamber would have enough aitlr flow.


Humidity Chamber has adjustable FAE. Ranging from too little to too much. :thumbup:


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: Mateja]
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Thanks Mateah,

Nice simple concept... I like it.  But have you had luck growing pans in it out of curiosity?


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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You haven’t had any issues with coco going mouldy?


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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Just do trays of Pans in a mono. I did some Pan Bisporus that way not long ago.


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bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: 36fuckin5]
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An unmodified mono, or one with six holes and polyfil?  With nothing on the bottom as a humidifier?

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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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AgarStudent said:
Thanks Mateah,

Nice simple concept... I like it.  But have you had luck growing pans in it out of curiosity?


No I haven't but I don't see why Pans wouldn't fruit just fine in a HC.
AgarStudent said:
You haven’t had any issues with coco going mouldy?


Nope and I don't think over saturated coir can harbor molds. :shrug: too wet climate for your typical molds.


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: Mateja]
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Awesome.  Makes scalable grows easier, as perlite only seems to come in 100L bags, which is a shitload for an apartment 😬


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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: 36fuckin5]
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Hey 36fucking5,
Do you have a grow log or a link to how you did it?  No perlite?

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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: AgarStudent]
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25435738

No perlite. A tray with spawn and sub, cased. Drop 2 inside a regular-ass 66 qt mono with Polyfil. I'd say you probably actually need to use 2 trays to create enough RH in that space.

I'd like to reiterate how little of a plan I had when starting these. It was super easy this way. Other Pans might need slightly different stuff, like you shouldn't mist them directly for instance, but I think you can dial in enough FAE to make it work.

CaptainFuture has fruited a lot of exotic shit in bags in a mono like that. That's where I got the idea. IDK how much he has here but he posted a lot on Mycotopia back in the day.


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Pat The Bunny said:
A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me.

bodhisatta said:
i recommend common sense and figuring it out.

These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.

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Re: Monotub conversion to SGFC? [Re: 36fuckin5]
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Well that is a darn side easier than Blue Felix’s misting and heating apparatus!  Nice and simple too.
I wonder if that would work with an unmodified tub too.


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